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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/28 10:02:28 (permalink)
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It does need the plan_class code in there.. just switched mine back on and it was giving me the error in notices. Of course my app_config was deleted because the work went away. So i basically had to re-do everything.. back up and running now (Under mining@evga, no more point panic please)


devlin85 & Viper97 as long as you are using the Same Account Name your Points will still show under Crunching@EVGA under Free-DC.
On my bcavnaugh account I Joined the team Testing@EVGA and created a new account CrunchForCoin to not blot the Scale over on the Crunching Side. like in the image below.
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userteamcomb&team=Crunching@EVGA

 
I am Not saying you have to do the same.
 
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userteamcomb&team=Mining@EVGA 
 
 
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=bit&team=2124

 
 
Mostly because of our Cross Project Identifier Number.
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/28 11:26:28 (permalink)
FYI,
Running More than Two Boxes is NOT a Issue under Windows 7 like I had under Windows XP.

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/28 13:57:20 (permalink)
I guess, it's not set up the way I like it visually, but I have it working I think.  I'll know in a bit and then I'll start tweaking.


 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/28 13:57:55 (permalink)
Oh... on your set up account BC... not the teams.


 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 06:47:56 (permalink)
So boincstats has lost their mind.. My bitcoin utoptia project is under mining@evga and boincstats has no idea what to do..
 
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/e73e23eba5fc3bc0d57b3c43c097d1a9/#1 crunching team list has all points from before and since the switch
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2912267/charts charts are equally screwed
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/list/0/0/2124/#1 but yet all points from before and now are on team mining@evga as well....
 
Gonna have write a forum post.. any other way to get in touch with them?
 
Forum post: http://boincstats.com/en/forum/5/9640,1#133604 (maybe some other user activity will nudge em a little)
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 08:32:52 (permalink)
I'm not sure how you made the team change, but if I recall correctly (and I think bcav was saying this also) if you have the same CPID as before, you're going to get all the stats systems really confused.  They don't understand the same CPID being on multiple teams.


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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 09:03:15 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how you made the team change, but if I recall correctly (and I think bcav was saying this also) if you have the same CPID as before, you're going to get all the stats systems really confused.  They don't understand the same CPID being on multiple teams.


Correct, you would need to setup a new account to receive a new CPID.
This is why I created a new account. My Points have not been removed for my old account bcavnaugh under Crunching@EVGA
BU did say the can combine accounts, but I did not want to do this at this time.
Yes I did have to start at 0 under CrunchForCoin but that to is what I wanted as well.
This way I am not pounding point under our Crunching Team.
I still use BAM! for Crunching@EVGA and add a Project Separate to add BU on the same computer.
 
Note that when you Click on the BU Project Remove is not Grayed out like the rest of the Projects managed under BAN!

 
Then I move my account bcavnaugh over to Testing@EVGA to clear any movement on Crunching@EVGA
 
Now Crunching@EVGA Team members can look at the Wild Points ASIC Can Produce in BOINC and for review by the DC Captains.
 
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=bit&team=2124

 

 

Today I did Drop WUProp@Home from my account and from the Team.
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 10:43:26 (permalink)
I have some Extra Gold Plated Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Type A to Mini-B Cable 3 Feet if anyone needs one. I have 3 to give away.
PM me with an address and I will send to you for free.
I prefer Amazon Basics USB 2.0 A Male to Mini B Cables - 3 Feet (0.9 Meters), cable is not so stiff and thicker then the Cable Matters cables above.
I have test all the cables and they all work with the BOX, the cable that comes with the Box is a little to short 18" | 45.72 CM
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 11:00:46 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how you made the team change, but if I recall correctly (and I think bcav was saying this also) if you have the same CPID as before, you're going to get all the stats systems really confused.  They don't understand the same CPID being on multiple teams.




I used BAM, so you'd think it would work properly..  and BoincStats is the only one with the problem. statsfr is showing up right and so is free-dc as far as I can tell, apart from the signature issue I had where it changed my team to the project having the most points, puts it at the top of the list that it pulls from.
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 11:03:46 (permalink)
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Punchy
I'm not sure how you made the team change, but if I recall correctly (and I think bcav was saying this also) if you have the same CPID as before, you're going to get all the stats systems really confused.  They don't understand the same CPID being on multiple teams.




I used BAM, so you'd think it would work properly..  and BoincStats is the only one with the problem. statsfr is showing up right and so is free-dc as far as I can tell, apart from the signature issue I had where it changed my team to the project having the most points, puts it at the top of the list that it pulls from.


Works Fine, See Post http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2258789 above.
 
On the BoincStats Part, I have been looking at other Sites the collect Stats and most do NOT collect data on BU.
Like http://www.dc-vault.com/  http://formula-boinc.org and http://stats.kwsn.net/user.php?proj=all&cpid=0d4d7b5fcb4f00888da766ef72902da7
http://www.allprojectstats.com/ stopped over 500 Days ago. 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 11:05:11 (permalink)
Only Two One Cable left!
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 11:25:56 (permalink)
aRG.. anybody ever try to renew their cpid? worth a shot.. (i just did it)
 
  • Only renew the CPID when your CPID no longer links to your stats correctly. To prevent waste of bandwidth for both BOINCstats and the projects, there is a limit on the use of this option over a certain period of time.
  • "Renew CPID" only updates your BAM! CPID. It does NOT change any CPID at any project, it will NOT affect your stats, it will NOT fix a split CPID! Only the link between BAM! to the stats may be affected when the new CPID is different than the current one.
on page http://boincstats.com/en/bam/account/ 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 12:26:09 (permalink)
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aRG.. anybody ever try to renew their cpid? worth a shot.. (i just did it)
 
  • Only renew the CPID when your CPID no longer links to your stats correctly. To prevent waste of bandwidth for both BOINCstats and the projects, there is a limit on the use of this option over a certain period of time.
  • "Renew CPID" only updates your BAM! CPID. It does NOT change any CPID at any project, it will NOT affect your stats, it will NOT fix a split CPID! Only the link between BAM! to the stats may be affected when the new CPID is different than the current one.
on page http://boincstats.com/en/bam/account/ 


You do not want to click this image on that page.
 
 
The Only option you have to create a NEW ACCOUNT for a Different CPID.
Go with Devlin85.5 or Devlin85-5
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 13:22:36 (permalink)
Glad all of my units failed then... Think the miner isn't picking stuff up right and that's probably my fault.
 
We need a really good concise guide to this... Someone right it... I only do short stories and poems.


 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 13:31:27 (permalink)
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Glad all of my units failed then... Think the miner isn't picking stuff up right and that's probably my fault.
 
We need a really good concise guide to this... Someone right it... I only do short stories and poems.



Did you set this up on BU Web Site? RBOX can only Run (for 20+GH/s ASICs) Projects.

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 13:42:20 (permalink)
Yup done that... only the 20+ just did a line by line comparison and we are simpatico.
 
Maybe the cgminer end?


 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 13:53:58 (permalink)
You have turn off Virus software on the C:\ProgramData\BOINC Folder and all Folders and Files Below. Myself I don't this.
Goto http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/download/?C=M;O=D
Download   C-cgminer-rbox_win32_00003.zip Unzip into a Folder and also stop your Virus software from scanning the folder.
Run this command cgminer --ndevs -n
 
and? cgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://stratum.btcguild.com:3333 -u eyebootdaddy_1 -p 12345
To test OC
cgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://stratum.btcguild.com:3333 -u eyebootdaddy_1 -p 12345 --rock-freq 320
 
How to install an ASIC miner (USB)

Plug in your device. After a failed automatic installation go to:

http://zadig.akeo.ie/
 
Download zadig_2.1.0.exe and Clixk Options and Check List All Devices then install the named driver below WunUSB and over write the current divers. Moore on their site http://zadig.akeo.ie/

 
 
I have to run this same command on one of the Rigs that have to RBOX Installed to show what you Select. Please Hold on
This is what you should see, Click Reinstall Driver Re-boot your computer.

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 14:08:43 (permalink)
Viper97 Your Computers are hidden so I cannot see a task that failed.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/show_user.php?userid=4319
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 14:25:41 (permalink)
wow.. i was literally just updating the main post with a good deal of that information.. check it out. I will add some more info later. 

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 15:05:31 (permalink)
Thanks devlin85 This is one of the Hardest to setup.
 
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wow.. i was literally just updating the main post with a good deal of that information.. check it out. I will add some more info later. 


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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 15:16:56 (permalink)
Free dc is doing the stats right, the pies are still off but that's because the RAC takes time to adjust. So at least it's good there. 

 
Did anybody try just changing their name under bitcoin utopia rather than a new name? I can't keep track of what's been said already..
 

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 15:25:14 (permalink)

 
Did anybody try just changing their name under bitcoin utopia rather than a new name? I can't keep track of what's been said already..

But they will continue to increase under Boinc Combined User Stats for Team Crunching@EVGA
And Not under Boinc Combined User Stats for Team Mining@EVGA
They will show only under Bitcoin Utopia Team for Mining@EVGA
Because if of this: Cross Project Identifier 0d4d7b5fcb4f00888da766ef72902da7
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/29 19:51:46 (permalink)
I Like your new account name devlin85.1 but you are still using the same CPUID 0d4d7b5fcb4f00888da766ef72902da7 and this is how they mange all the Status or points.
 
Name "real name or nickname" are not used for status only for Display of a user.
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 06:07:29 (permalink)
I'm thinking that you need to create a new BOINC instance and tie in with a different email address as well as name to generate a different CPUID.


 
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 07:05:45 (permalink)
ok so from what I understand now about the Cross Project Identifier is that it is assigned to identify different computers under the main account, the account is the email address, so If i change my email address under bitcoin utopia it would change my identifier. Which it did, so everything should smooth out now, plus my points are still there and I can just switch email addresses back later 

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 09:45:10 (permalink)
oh brother.. I guess we know why they're so far behind on the issues... they don't know what they're doing...
 
I should direct my problem with your stats site to the project who doesn't control how the points are tabulated!? Good God Man...
 

 
Seriously, anybody with more than one team under their cpid is broadcasting their points to all teams! That means the points could be DRAMATICALLY OFF!! what geniuses... direct your problem elsewhere they say...
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 12:47:34 (permalink)
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I'm thinking that you need to create a new BOINC instance and tie in with a different email address as well as name to generate a different CPUID.


This is what I have done.

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 13:00:59 (permalink)
Bitcoin Utopia is temporarily shut down for maintenance.  Please try again later.
 
They are back up now.
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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 15:09:54 (permalink)
Here is an explination of how their stats work by Jeff:
 
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I think the problem is a misunderstanding of what these pages are displaying. While it may seem like credits are being double counted they are not, but all the pages you listed show a different way of counting/displaying credit amounts.


Crunching@evga member list
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/e73e23eba5fc3bc0d57b3c43c097d1a9/
This is a listing of all people associated with team crunching@evga and their personal combined credit count. At BOINCSstats for combined pages you are associated with the team you have the most project team memberships with. This display of user totals within a team is the same behavior for teams at individual projects.


crunching@evga charts
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2912267/charts
This is actually your personal account charts.
This link is the team crunching@evga charts -- http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/58913125/charts
I am not sure what issue you were trying to show with the charts link. But if you look at the team charts you will see the credit production dropped on Nov 23rd when you moved your BU account to a new team.


mining@evga with all the points as well
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/list/0/0/2124/
This is the team mining@evga project listing. So yes it correctly shows the members of the team and their current total project credits, just like you see on the project team pages.
If you look at the team details page http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/team/detail/2124 you will see that the current team total of 1.6B is less than the total of the two current members 2.6B because some of the credit had already been assigned to a different team.


If what you are asking for is how to get that 1B of BU credits off the team crunching@evga listing then you just need to delete the team on the BU site and wait a day or two for it to vanish here as well.

If what you want is for your BU credits to not be included in your combined total shown on the team crunching@evga listing then, as you pointed out, you need to use a different email address at BU so you get a different CPID.

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Re: ASIC Miners and Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC 2014/11/30 15:10:45 (permalink)
I told him I don't understand why any team member list would show a cumulative score from other teams..
 
But there does appear to be a solution to this matter.. delete Crunching@EVGA from the bitcoin utopia project! I'd say do it!!! Viper? Anybody? Bueller.. Bueller.. 
 
post edited by devlin85 - 2014/11/30 15:31:36

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