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2014/11/17 06:10:32 (permalink)
Yes, that would be really nice!!
What do we need to EVGA or NVIDIA to develop a MAC Edition of this graphic card?
The card design and electrical power consumption fits perfect for ans MacPro from 2008 to 2013
and with some small tricks also for older models. That means some 100.000 financially strong customers, with the need to
upgrade there systems. 
 
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 06:40:35 (permalink)
    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 07:34:42 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....


    Macs are not inferior, they are just different. Isn't Apple is the like the 5th largest PC manufacturer now?

    To the OP, there is nothing wrong with waiting for or buying a 980 Mac edition, but I put a 970 in my Mac Pro already and it works great, you just need to use nvidias web drivers, and wait for them to put a CUDA driver out.

    And as soon as the Mac edition hits someone will dump the ROM and many a card will be flashed into Mac editions. :)
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 08:03:09 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....


    Macs are not inferior, they are just different. Isn't Apple is the like the 5th largest PC manufacturer now?

    To the OP, there is nothing wrong with waiting for or buying a 980 Mac edition, but I put a 970 in my Mac Pro already and it works great, you just need to use nvidias web drivers, and wait for them to put a CUDA driver out.

    And as soon as the Mac edition hits someone will dump the ROM and many a card will be flashed into Mac editions. :)



    Yes I've also installed a GTX980, but you know the disadvantages: no Bootscreen, no Cuda and as far as I know only PCI 1.0.
    The benchmark test are always amazing, but if I play a game on the Win7 (bootcamp) side it feels as it judders!
    And the games are running with 120 FPS or more! I don't have this judder with my old EVGA GTX680.
    My Mac Itself has 1 TB Raid0 SSD - 48GB RAM - 8/16 Core Xeon 2.93GHz that shouldn't be the problem..
     
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 08:57:31 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

     ...and to our unqualified comment, the most of the outstanding inventions in our beautiful
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 09:08:21 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....



    I'll never understand people like this, it's a just a computer. Macs are better for some things, and worse for other things. I use OS X, Linux (several distros) and Windows, like I use both consoles and PC for gaming. They all have things I want, exclusive games, exclusive applications, etc..

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/17 14:01:41 (permalink)
    Last Mac Edition is EVGA GTX680 Mac, before that I remember ATI 5870 Mac and AMD 7950 Mac.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 09:05:46 (permalink)
    I talked today with a represent of EVGA Germany and he granted me to inform the marketing guys about
    the need of a GTX980 Mac edition. 
     
    We will see what happened...
     
     
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 09:24:37 (permalink)
    I can't speak for EVGA but demand for such an item would have to be good enough to offset the costs of production and marketing. I don't know if disassembly of a Mac to install a new video card will void your MAC warranty.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 10:05:55 (permalink)
    You don't have to disassemble a Mac Pro to put a card in there. Those are the only macs that could use this anyway. Also, they could just use a PC card and flash it. Several of us already do that anyways. The Mac editions usually just look different and charge for the special image flashed to the card.
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 12:42:50 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

    ...and to our unqualified comment, the most of the outstanding inventions in our beautiful
    PC are from Apple, that's starts with you mouse!
     
     
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    Not to nit pick, but Apple did not and almost never invents anything. It steals technology made by others, then patents said tech. Then sues the people who actually invented it later. The mouse was invented by Xerox, and stolen by Jobs.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 13:25:31 (permalink)
    Alright guys, let's get the thread back on topic.  This is about a petition for a GTX 980 version to be Mac compatible, not about discussing the merits of Apple Inc. as a business.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/19 17:53:14 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

    ...and to our unqualified comment, the most of the outstanding inventions in our beautiful
    PC are from Apple, that's starts with you mouse!
     
     
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    wrong!
    Apple did not create the mouse:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_%28computing%29
     And Apple did not create the mouse you think of today either...that was created by Xerox.
     
    Apple OS is derived from UNIX.
    Apple steals everything.
     
    Also, before you try to say it, Apple did not make the first personal computer either.
     
     
    back on topic.
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/27 12:36:46 (permalink)
    Come on boys & girls, GROW UP and please stop abusing a thread like this - simple but yet very serious question - just for trolling about Mac or PC! Grownups just answer the question!
     

    Yes, that would be really nice!!
    What do we need to EVGA or NVIDIA to develop a MAC Edition of this graphic card?
    The card design and electrical power consumption fits perfect for ans MacPro from 2008 to 2013
    and with some small tricks also for older models. That means some 100.000 financially strong customers, with the need to
    upgrade there systems. 
    Regards Zodi

     
    I agree Zodi, it's THE PERFECT math for those Mac Pro 3.1 (early 2008) - 5.1 (mid-2012). Most wanted because of its performance and that there's no need for additional powersupply, due to the max PCIe TPD issue with other GTX GC. Let's keep our fingers crossed or wait untill the moment the flash.rom comes avaliable!
     
    Cheers and thanks for your question!

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/27 12:40:11 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....



    Not quite a 'classified' way to respond as a "CLASSIFIED Member"! ;(

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/29 11:12:05 (permalink)
    I could see a 980 or a 970 being made into a Mac Edition card, simply because power levels are much lower, compared to the 700 series.  However, like with most hardware that goes into Macs, Apple's hardware certification system is proprietary and EVGA would have to modify the power and performance levels of such a card to be able to qualify as a Mac product.  That's not to say it won't happen, but EVGA has to go through those extra steps to get them to be officially supported for Mac systems.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/11/29 15:44:22 (permalink)
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    I could see a 980 or a 970 being made into a Mac Edition card, simply because power levels are much lower, compared to the 700 series.  However, like with most hardware that goes into Macs, Apple's hardware certification system is proprietary and EVGA would have to modify the power and performance levels of such a card to be able to qualify as a Mac product.  That's not to say it won't happen, but EVGA has to go through those extra steps to get them to be officially supported for Mac systems.

     
    Thanks for your reply, appreciated!
     
    EVGA, nVidia and of cource the red-team, did convert graphics cards to the Mac Edition in the past, but I also understand that now Apple is WELDING all parts into their new systems, that there would be a smaller after market for those Mac owners who buy add-ons e.g. like EVGA GTX-980-4GB Mac Edition!
     
    e.g. 120GT / 8800GT / GTX-285 / GTX 6xxM / GTX-680
     
    On the other hand, in the MacRumors commnity there are some tests in progress for making external "eGPU" mounted in Thunderbolt 1/2 enclosures or making some handcrafted .rom tweaks to make PC GPU's EFI compatible. A very exiting development for us users of a current (c)MP! WOW, some guys will never give-up beating Apple's no-pro-all-mass and toys-for-boys 'new' products. With those developments like the eGPU my (c)MP 5.1 - production date only just from December 2012! - will lasts much longer then the intended replace cycle for Apple's wallet. NOTE: I never mind businesses making money, but sending a 2013 $3-6K high-end machine to the basement, is absurd.
     
    PS I unmounted my 8800GT MAC - latest compatible driver 340.52 WHQL, higher could not be installed for the combo - and replaced it with the ATI 2600 HD for EFI bootscreen and maintenance, for POWER I have the GTX-670-FTW-4GB!

    Now I have both the Green and Red team onboard! ;-)


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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/06 03:59:10 (permalink)
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    I could see a 980 or a 970 being made into a Mac Edition card, simply because power levels are much lower, compared to the 700 series.  However, like with most hardware that goes into Macs, Apple's hardware certification system is proprietary and EVGA would have to modify the power and performance levels of such a card to be able to qualify as a Mac product.  That's not to say it won't happen, but EVGA has to go through those extra steps to get them to be officially supported for Mac systems.




    I would like a Geforce GTX980 in my Mac Pro.  Currently I have a unflashed EVGA GTX680 in my Mac Pro.  The benefits of having a card with a boot screen, official 4K support and of course quite some more horsepower would justify the update IMHO.
     
    @EVGA: If you intended to build a Mac Edition of the GTX980 it might be clever to announce this early enough.  People start putting all kinds of GTX970 and GTX980 into their Mac Pro.  And once they did this, these folks are most likely lost as possible customers for the official Mac Edition of the GTX980.
     


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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/06 04:30:19 (permalink)
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    I could see a 980 or a 970 being made into a Mac Edition card, simply because power levels are much lower, compared to the 700 series.  However, like with most hardware that goes into Macs, Apple's hardware certification system is proprietary and EVGA would have to modify the power and performance levels of such a card to be able to qualify as a Mac product.  That's not to say it won't happen, but EVGA has to go through those extra steps to get them to be officially supported for Mac systems.

     
    I would like a Geforce GTX980 in my Mac Pro.  Currently I have a unflashed EVGA GTX680 in my Mac Pro.  The benefits of having a card with a boot screen, official 4K support and of course quite some more horsepower would justify the update IMHO.
     
    @EVGA: If you intended to build a Mac Edition of the GTX980 it might be clever to announce this early enough.  People start putting all kinds of GTX970 and GTX980 into their Mac Pro.  And once they did this, these folks are most likely lost as possible customers for the official Mac Edition of the GTX980.

     
    Great call!
     
    And let's not forget that ATM rom's are being created to flash both those beauties. Let's hope no welding is needed for an EFI flashed GTX-970/980! Of course I would like to a Mac Edition, so EVGA / nVidia will keep up the good works in creating great performing drivers and support for OS X 10.10.x. 
     
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/06 07:33:02 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

    ...and to our unqualified comment, the most of the outstanding inventions in our beautiful
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    I find it funny when somebody says unqualified comment and then follows up with one. Please tell me about these outstanding inventions?

     
    At least he was open about it.
     

     
     

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/06 07:35:38 (permalink)
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    I could see a 980 or a 970 being made into a Mac Edition card, simply because power levels are much lower, compared to the 700 series.  However, like with most hardware that goes into Macs, Apple's hardware certification system is proprietary and EVGA would have to modify the power and performance levels of such a card to be able to qualify as a Mac product.  That's not to say it won't happen, but EVGA has to go through those extra steps to get them to be officially supported for Mac systems.




    One of the things that bothered me most about my Mac Pro was the inability to find high quality video cards that I wanted to use. It was always a "what will work with my Mac"... or what can I force to work with my Mac.

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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/11 09:29:02 (permalink)
    Do you need any power cables to run the 980 in a Mac Pro?
     
     
    I have a 4,1 (Early 2009), which has PCI-E (PCI 2.0).
     
     
    MallcomX
    Yes I've also installed a GTX980, but you know the disadvantages: no Bootscreen, no Cuda and as far as I know only PCI 1.0.
    The benchmark test are always amazing, but if I play a game on the Win7 (bootcamp) side it feels as it judders!
    And the games are running with 120 FPS or more! I don't have this judder with my old EVGA GTX680.
    My Mac Itself has 1 TB Raid0 SSD - 48GB RAM - 8/16 Core Xeon 2.93GHz that shouldn't be the problem..




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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/12 08:27:08 (permalink)
    Both the 980 and 970 work at full pcie 2 speed in mac pros due to nvidia's web driver for os x yosemite). Cuda is now working although there are still issues, the bug that keeps asking for an update, for example.
     
    I agree I would very much like a 980 in my mac pro and very much prefer an official release but even if this never happens I can wait for the custom versions. One way or another I will get one.
     
     
    PS:
    At my old age I know and I have come to conclude the following:
     
    Apple did nor invent the mouse and the windowed OS. Those were Xerox's inventions that were dimmed of no market value. Apple did take the ideas under some kind of arrangement with Xerox at that time.
     
    The computer industry has thrived by "copying" ideas. Everybody does that. MS do it, Apple do it, the open source community do it and if you ask me that is good. Keeps the blood flowing and the products advancing. I would not mind a super os coming out of OS X, Windows and Linux... 
     
    Flame wars are pointless, computers are tools. If some people think they are better because they use tool A instead of B, then they need to get a life.
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/12 09:15:48 (permalink)
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    Do you need any power cables to run the 980 in a Mac Pro?








    2 6 pin cables for most incarnations of the card.
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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/13 07:54:46 (permalink)
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    Or you could ditch the inferior system....

    ...and to our unqualified comment, the most of the outstanding inventions in our beautiful
    PC are from Apple, that's starts with you mouse!
     
     
    Regards
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    I find it funny when somebody says unqualified comment and then follows up with one. Please tell me about these outstanding inventions?
     
     
    At least he was open about it.
     

     
     




    Steve Jobs was a marketing genius. He made everyone believe he invented his products but in fact every product they have put out was invented by others years ago but an iSheep will argue otherwise regardless of the evidence. I had a biology professor tell me that a Mac was superior. I told her that Apple's hardware was so inferior they switched to PC based x86 in 2005 and all she had now was an Apple branded PC. In true iSheep form, she said, with a straight face, that Intel made a superior higher quality chip for Macs.
     
    In any event, I am uncertain why someone who wants a gaming pc would go with a mac based on limited hardware availability and the need to run emulation software to play games.


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    Re: The wonderful GTX980 as a MAC Edition?? 2014/12/14 06:36:19 (permalink)
    woojyeeSteve Jobs was a marketing genius. He made everyone believe he invented his products but in fact every product they have put out was invented by others years ago but an iSheep will argue otherwise regardless of the evidence. I had a biology professor tell me that a Mac was superior. I told her that Apple's hardware was so inferior they switched to PC based x86 in 2005 and all she had now was an Apple branded PC. In true iSheep form, she said, with a straight face, that Intel made a superior higher quality chip for Macs.
     
    In any event, I am uncertain why someone who wants a gaming pc would go with a mac based on limited hardware availability and the need to run emulation software to play games.

     
    Why do simple questions (OP) sometimes result in very difficult to read, off-topic and non-issue flamed 'answers'? If you don't like Mac or their (i)owners, simply ignore the topic.
     
    Nevertheless I Salut you!
     
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    There was already a warning given about posting off topic. This will be the last warning to stay on topic of the OP.

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    I apologise!

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    Any rumors yet?

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    no 
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