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2014/11/22 02:55:39 (permalink)
You don't want to see this.  At least, not when you're installing the HSF on your new (to you), fresh from ebay evga x58 classified.
Stare long enough and you might see it.  Or you can scroll down...
One of these things is not like the other...
C343 just chillin, hangin out with C318.
post edited by dingo_boy99 - 2014/11/22 02:57:59

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/22 09:53:16 (permalink)
     
    343 sharing with 318. Yikes.

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/22 12:03:42 (permalink)
    I have no clue what the purpose of those caps is, so it might be fine (ha...), but I'm working on getting it repaired (or repairing it myself).  Headed to radio shack for solder wick and some other supplies - I haven't had any luck with local "electronics repair" shops I've called.  Evidently, virus removal is electronics repair - who knew?
     
    I did surface mount assembly/repair at a previous job, but it's been a minute, and I don't have everything I need.  I figured 1 cap, someone around here could do it, but nothing so far.  

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/22 17:32:36 (permalink)
     
    1) Put it back on.
     
    2) Hope the thing works.
     
    Let us know.

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 05:16:49 (permalink)
    I'm hoping it's part of the PWM and helps with overclocking.  Hoping, because I don't intend to overclock, which would, nominally, make this cap's existence irrelevant.  If I ever do decide to OC (it's an i7-970, so it has plenty of potential), and I have issues, I'll just replace the cap entirely and maybe by then I'll have found a shop who isn't afraid of surface mount soldering. 

    Regardless, it ain't pretty, but it's there.  In all, probably the most frustrating soldering job I've ever done (hence the ugliness - was just happy to finally have solder flowing), and I've done a good number of soldering jobs.  That said, I highly recommend avoiding the Radio Shack digital soldering station - there's something wrong with the design, in that the heat doesn't get distributed evenly on the soldering tip, which entirely defeats the purpose of... well, of a soldering iron.  I got it to work, finally, by stabbing it into a piece of wood (desk) and the tip bent, which miraculously allowed the tip to heat up enough to melt solder.  Before that, only the *sides* of the tip would heat up enough to flow.
     
    I did take it apart and investigate the issue, which is why I say there's a design flaw - the ceramic tip over which the soldering tip fits does not fully seat into the soldering tip - there is a 1/16"-1/8" gap between the ceramic tip and the inner stop of the soldering tip, which means it heats up the ceramic, which then heats up the outside of the soldering tip, which conducts the heat down to the tip.  While most irons have a solid rod that heats up evenly, the tips on these are hollow, and do not make full contact with the heat element/ceramic tip, which allows the tip to dissipate heat much too rapidly.  I had to set the temp above 800*F, which is WAY higher than I should have had to set it to get pads to flow (600*F-700*F is typical).

    I bet you can't figure out which one I did - it's just like new...  

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 10:41:56 (permalink)
    If you consider how small that component is and that you don't have a micro soldering station I say you did a great job on that.

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 12:40:42 (permalink)
    wow....I guess as these billion dollar companies continue to find cheaper labor in foreign countries one can expect these issues to only get worse in the future. was QA sick that day or he have cataracts in both eyes. Hope it works for you considering someone else pawned their problem off on you. nothing more disappointing than spending money only to find it don't work. If you cant get that board running dingo boy I have an x58 sli like new you can have for free. just cuz I don't like to see that happen to anyone. and I am not using it and probably wont ever use it. I have so much stuff collecting dust. works like new and over clocked really nice on my 990x cpu. and is almost identical to your classified board.

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 15:50:37 (permalink)
    @rjohnson - thanks, man.  I'm hoping it's good enough...

    @VIPERXIX that's awesome of you to offer that, man - I'm still in the build process (a lot going on around here right now, can't drop it all and build it), so I won't know for sure maybe until after Thanksgiving whether or not it works.  No telling how this happened - could have been a cracked weld, cold solder joint, or anything.  The other caps look like good quality joints, so I'm guessing someone hit it with something and cracked the weld at some point in its life.  Given that one of the ebay listing images clearly shows the capacitor in place, it had to happen between when the picture was taken (after testing) and when it got to me.  The guy was totally cool about it, and offered a partial refund for the inconvenience (he's been testing/fixing/reselling PC components for over 10 years on ebay), so there's some great communication going on and I'd use him again, even with this problem.
     
    Thanks again for the offer - I won't take it for free, but I just might buy it from you if this one doesn't work :)

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 19:06:26 (permalink)
     
    Good job on fixing it. Should be good to go now.            

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    Re: What you do NOT want to see 2014/11/23 19:14:17 (permalink)
    let me know how it goes....I have the ECP boards that will work on that board and other hardware for the x58 classify chip if you need. memory,cpu's,SSD's etc.all mint condition.

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