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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/05/01 09:28:59 (permalink)
 
   It looks like any post Fermi series is subject to the issue.....a refurb 580 would be a major downgrade from a pair of 570's....so that's a no go...I don't like it....but at the end of the day, I'm not going to sacrifice gaming performance because I have to shut/down/hibernate instead of going in sleep mode.
 
  Also when I sent the cards in I told them I wouldn't be opposed to and actually would prefer a single card solution of equal performance, they cant do that because each card is covered by its own warranty, even though they were purchased together , direct from EVGA with sequential serial numbers....policy is policy....

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/05/01 21:13:02 (permalink)
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   It looks like any post Fermi series is subject to the issue.....a refurb 580 would be a major downgrade from a pair of 570's....so that's a no go...I don't like it....but at the end of the day, I'm not going to sacrifice gaming performance because I have to shut/down/hibernate instead of going in sleep mode.
 
  Also when I sent the cards in I told them I wouldn't be opposed to and actually would prefer a single card solution of equal performance, they cant do that because each card is covered by its own warranty, even though they were purchased together , direct from EVGA with sequential serial numbers....policy is policy....




What a crappy company...


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/05/02 04:39:04 (permalink)
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What a crappy company...




 
   I wouldn't go that far, and the policy makes sense to a large degree....I'm sure the number of multiple card failures at the same time would see a huge increase if standard policy included an option for 2 cards being RMA'ed for a single card of equal or greater combined performance.
 
   Also my cards didn't die at the same time, one crapped out months ago, did a driver update and at first when I enabled SLI (as you always have to do when upgrading drivers) everything would go to hell, only one monitor would display, 3D wouldn't work, 800x600 was the only res option etc....shortly after that the option to SLI just disappeared, both cards showed up in device manager and system info programs like that in 3D mark, but in EVGA PX and any status monitoring programs one card was missing, but aside from that things functioned normally after one card disappeared . All that happened in late December/early January. Didn't have time to dig into the system for a good while, so I just ran off the good card and left the bad one in till I had time root around and figure out what was wrong.
 
   Months pass and I was finally able to work on it, pulled both cards and put what I thought was the offending card the in, as one was working fine still. The card I put in had major artifacting all over the place even at post and would blue screen in short order....that was easy, had things to do shortly so I called and started an RMA before putting the good card back in as I was pressed for time. Plans changed and suddenly I had several more hours free so I put the "good" card in and ....NOTHING....no post, no monitor activation...the fan would spin but that's was the only sign of life...put an old 460 in and device manager saw a card was in the slot, but that was as far as went....turns out that was the "bad" card all along....and the "good" card which was working just fine until 10 minutes before I pulled it suddenly was far from....that's how I ended up doing a double RMA....not sure how things would have played out if I did things differently, like pulling the bad card when the problem first happened.....also just now wondering if one or both problems might be related to S3 sleep...almost 4 years of up to a dozen naps and wake ups a day add up to a butt ton of possible intense voltage spikes.....its as good a theory as any.

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/05/20 12:10:51 (permalink)
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What a crappy company...




 
   I wouldn't go that far, and the policy makes sense to a large degree....I'm sure the number of multiple card failures at the same time would see a huge increase if standard policy included an option for 2 cards being RMA'ed for a single card of equal or greater combined performance.
 
 

 
I am glad you are satisfied but if it were me I would have rejected them and demanded either a money back or a comparable solution that does work.
 
I am more upset that in the first few pages of this thread EVGA reps claimed to be looking into the issue only to stop replying and just pretend this thread does not exist. Most here have done exactly what EVGA wanted, given up over time and not made a fuss about this. I am disappointed that a company of this size could NOT come up with a fix, but also that they didn't give any of us the time of day to say why they failed to solve this.
 
And for those that will say "EVGA is not to blame, it's not just a gfx issue its a mobo issue as well" my mobo is also EVGA.


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/11/21 20:59:37 (permalink)
iceman0124For those saying it has nothing to do with the cards.....I cant follow that logic, I got this motherboard and CPU in 2010, and have run many NVIDIA cards across a fair span of time (see above)....and the most recent cards in my case (660 ti's), made years after the x58 chipset was in its heyday ....and its "all" the motherboards fault? Cards before the mobo was made work, cards after the mobo was made work...these dont for some reason, they do sometimes but that's not really good enough...
 
  If anyone has a fix sans insomnia or hibernation please let me know.




It has as much to do with the cards, as it would be ram itself if you put two s ticks of dram in a motherboard that doesn't support them correctly (never seen those bios updates with "improves dram stability"?)
 
The issue is the bios on the motherboard, not the first time a mainboard has required a bios update to support an add-in card, won't be the last.
 
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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/05 12:35:12 (permalink)
Well guys I tried a GTX 970 a Maxwell GM204 based card. I will say the results were slightly different but in the end same problem. Was hoping the new chip would somehow make a difference but it did not. Back to the store with this card too.
 
Most of the other cards I tried though when it did come out of sleep the fans would spin up, no signal, and the computer itself was sort of in a zombie like state never getting back to windows with any sounds or HDD activity. With the GTX 970 however it seemed to go back into Windows just no picture. I could hear the usual windows sounds and the HDD light was flashing actively. When it came back you could hear the sound of a device being removed even though I didn't remove anything. Probably the card failing to S3 resume though when I checked the event logs I couldn't find anything.

Maybe someday I can get a newer Nvidia card in my x58 that still has good life to it. For now back to the 580.


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/05 16:56:12 (permalink)
Considering its not an nvidia side issue (its a phoenix bios side issue due to hardware specifics of the nvidia card) thats unlikely.

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/05 20:37:28 (permalink)
i have dual gtx 670 sc in my computer everytime my pc wakes up it sort of takes forever to log in then when i press the reset button it does not recognize my C: drive at all. i have to restart my pc.

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/08 10:15:17 (permalink)
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Considering its not an nvidia side issue (its a phoenix bios side issue due to hardware specifics of the nvidia card) thats unlikely.




At one time Nvidia cards worked with this BIOS and then during the 600 series of cards something changed in the nvidia hardware. Hoping that whatever is preventing this from working changes again down the road and by chance works with X58. I understand this is all by chance and am not holding my breath.
 
Has anyone tried a new Radeon card to see if those have sleep issues?


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/08 11:23:12 (permalink)
At one time nvidia bios's weren't so large.
 
The issue is the phoenix bios.

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/08 11:29:56 (permalink)
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At one time nvidia bios's weren't so large.
 
The issue is the phoenix bios.




Is that's what's causing it? The NV BIOS is too big for the Phoenix based board?


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/24 21:05:31 (permalink)
protivakidHas anyone tried a new Radeon card to see if those have sleep issues?



Well, my “solution” has been to swap out my GTX 660 Ti for a Radeon HD 6970, so...
 
I haven't tried any AMD Radeon Rx 200-series cards. A friend of mine has a couple; I might try to borrow one and see how it goes. I strongly suspect it'll behave flawlessly, though.
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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2014/12/25 21:15:26 (permalink)
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protivakidHas anyone tried a new Radeon card to see if those have sleep issues?



Well, my “solution” has been to swap out my GTX 660 Ti for a Radeon HD 6970, so...
 
I haven't tried any AMD Radeon Rx 200-series cards. A friend of mine has a couple; I might try to borrow one and see how it goes. I strongly suspect it'll behave flawlessly, though.




Very curious to see how this does for you. PLEASE let us know. And I'll assume with the 660 Ti you had the same sleep issue we all did?


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2015/01/13 14:50:42 (permalink)
protivakidVery curious to see how this does for you. PLEASE let us know.
Sure, although for various living situation-related reasons, I won't be able to try it until May or early June.
 
 
protivakidAnd I'll assume with the 660 Ti you had the same sleep issue we all did?
Yes, sadly; that's what brought me here in the first place.
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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2015/04/24 07:36:12 (permalink)
I have the same issue with a 960 gtx.
I just had a talk to EVGA Customer Service. There will be NO fix for this. Buy a more recent product...they said.
 
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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2015/04/24 09:09:25 (permalink)
what fixed I situation was a fresh install of windows . now my computer goes to sleep and resumes no problem.

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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2015/04/24 10:26:07 (permalink)
Sorry,
I thought the topic was about EVGA x58 boards, or EVGA boards with Phoenix BIOS. Everyone is complaining about S3 resume not functioning regardless of BIOS settings/OS refresh. I landed on this topic searching for answers for my weird issue (EVGA x58 SLI board; GTX 960; S3 resume not working). Official answer was there will be no fix for any x58 boards. I'll return my 960 and go for an ATI 280x.
 
I think this info will be usefull for anyone having a similar issue.
 
Cheers!
 
UPDATE : I returned the 960GTX and got a 290x. Everything works as expected. Only downside with the 290x is that it consumes almost 3 times as much power, compared to the 960gtx. Out!
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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2016/06/29 10:28:03 (permalink)
I tried a GTX 1070 today on my x58 board and it still has the same resume from sleep issue as the other cards I have reported trying in this thread. With each new Nvidia architecture I usually give the new card a go just in case it miraculously works :). My older i7 tore through GTA5 on max settings @ 1080p res with this card however back to my GTX580 and I am stuck to medium settings. Sleep mode is just too important of a feature for me.
 
I plan to try a newer AMD card to see how it goes. Anyone else try AMD radeons with their x58 boards? My i7 still hangs in there so I just can't justify upgrading it yet until I have tried all of the other options to maintain sleep with a newer card and my x58 board.


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2016/07/10 09:34:36 (permalink)
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At one time nvidia bios's weren't so large.
 
The issue is the phoenix bios.




I am not sure how much the VBIOS size matters. The GTX classified 580 I run now has a VBIOS size of 81KB according to the site below. The Galaxy GTX 670 I tried when I first encountered this problem has a VBIOS size of 96KB which isn't much larger than the 580. You think that extra 17KB makes all the difference?
 
Also the high end AMD cards at the time X58 was popular in 2010 +/- 2 yrs such as the 6970 has a VBIOS size of 128KB which is larger than the Nvidia 670 yet no one reported having problems with those.
 
Would love to know the exact reason of incompatibility.
 
580: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/112644/evga-gtx580-3072-111125
670: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/127272/galaxy-gtx670-4096-120703
6970: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/88328/ati-hd6970-2048-101124
 


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2016/07/14 18:42:50 (permalink)
I got two cards today. A used MSI GTX 770 which was a 96KB bios. And a Radeon RX 480.
 
The GTX 770 had the same issue. I tried removing all unneeded peripherals both internal and external as well as disabling all onboard devices I did not need. I also tried a hibernate powercfg setting I saw someone suggest but no luck.
 
The then threw in the new RX 480. Installed the Radeon drivers and tried sleep..... IT WORKED! I am typing this on my i7 970 x58 EVGA Pheonix BIOS board with a RX480 after a resume from S3 sleep.
 
So long Nvidia, it's been real, I will perhaps see you next build. For now I can finish out the gaming life of my i7 970 happily with the AMD RX 480.
 
I also dumped the RX 480 BIOS which is 256KB, significantly larger than the VBIOS of the Nvidia boards I have tried. With this I give little credit to the problem being VBIOS size with the x58 Pheonix boards & the 600+ series Nvidia cards.


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Re:GTX 680 - problems resuming from S3 sleep 2016/09/07 01:57:27 (permalink)
Surely there must be a way to remedy this -- or at least determine a cause for why it can't hold a sleep state. I've had my x58 758 sleeping nicely for years, however, in these past 9+ months, it's suddenly having trouble doing so, with not much changed. Any ideas?
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