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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/26 13:58:39 (permalink)
Yep, EVGA motherboard BIOSes suck.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/26 18:39:45 (permalink)
I never said they sucked.  I'm looking for the answer so we can get this thing fixed up for everybody who might be having trouble with it.  UEFI is new and the kinks haven't been worked out but end users like myself are saddled with trying to cope with the issues that are coming up.  I'd like to be able to boot my system each and every time I power up without watching the bios cycle repeatedly before being able to hang onto the boot drive and load windows all the way.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/27 04:36:21 (permalink)
This morning it took 3 times through the post process before it would allow the boot drive to complete loading windows.  So far if windows is allowed to complete loading the system remains stable for hours on end.  My problem so far is with the initial boot process and this board dropping the boot drive during the loading process.  At least I haven't lost my optical drives in windows like the old board was doing.  I hope that the guys at evga can locate and correct the problem soon.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/27 06:12:10 (permalink)
I was just thinking about something else.  When I initially set this board it also wouldn't allow me to select between my optical drives either so I had to unplug the sony to force it to see the pioneer which I want as my boot optical drive.  I also have my boot ssd plugged into the lowest sata port number and it still was ignored until I unplugged all of my hard drives and forced it to repost.  This bios doesn't have consistent behavior during the boot process and I really hope that can be corrected soon.  Also what is with the z87 ftw logo screen that keeps popping up during the post process?  Sometimes it will just flash up there for just a split second and other times it just hangs up there like the bios has paused for a few seconds.  I haven't made a relationship between the length of time the logo screen is there versus being able to complete the boot process because it doesn't seem to matter. 
 
I've been building my own pc's since the days of 5x86 and have seen many different configurations and problems.  I have used motherboards from abit, aopen, ecs, dfi, biostar, msi, asus, foxconn, shuttle, gigabyte, bfg tech and evga and have used both the ami and phoenix bios and I have never had problems like this before.  This is the first bios I've ever used that wouldn't allow me to see and select my attached drives.  This one forces me to unplug everything except for the boot and optical drive that I want to use to boot from.  If I have both my sony and pioneer bdrw's attached it will only see the sony.  If I unplug the sony then it will see the pioneer.  Once it has the optical and ssd in the boot menu and I save it I can replug everything back in and the boot order remains intact.  Trying to select a boot drive with just hard drives attached has the same issue.  If we can't get these things resolved then evga needs to replace this one with a different chipset.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/28 01:49:57 (permalink)
I just fired it up for the first time today and it post looped 9 times before it didn't drop the boot drive while loading windows.  This problem definitely needs to be addressed in the next bios update.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/28 12:01:44 (permalink)
I had to leave for a little while and when I came back and restarted it post looped 3 times before it loaded windows.  I'm thinking about naming this thing Forest Gump's box of chocolate because each time I hit the power button I don't know what I'm going to get.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/28 12:08:09 (permalink)
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I had to leave for a little while and when I came back and restarted it post looped 3 times before it loaded windows.  I'm thinking about naming this thing Forest Gump's box of chocolate because each time I hit the power button I don't know what I'm going to get.



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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/29 02:53:59 (permalink)
Well today the first boot took 6 post loops before the bios allowed windows to load.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/30 04:37:57 (permalink)
First time 4 post loops but on the 2nd post the logo screen paused for a bit showing a2 before continuing on.  I'm just going to continue to document what goes on with this board.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/31 02:04:05 (permalink)
Well this morning it took 2 post attempts before it loaded windows.  I just keep a note pad in front of me every time I hit the power button so I can jot down what happens.  Also yesterday evening while playing bf3 it froze up on me for the first time and was slow to respond to hitting the reset button which I pushed 5 times before it reposted itself.  It took 3 post loops for it to load windows after that.  Now I'm thinking about placing a picture of Forest Gump on my tower.  This is just plain stupid that the bios cannot post and load windows on the first try.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/31 06:32:35 (permalink)
Thanks for helping me decide not to go with the z87 route. Was thinking hard about doing that and a 4790k. Good luck with getting this straightened out though.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/31 07:58:45 (permalink)
- Hi,
 
reading this really hurts. ^^ You should start asap an RMA + call them (EVGA). This hardware-issue is on chapter but the service is one another! I have no problems with my Z87-Classified (and i7-477K). - From the first boot on...
 
Good luck!
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P.S. Thank you for your reminder. I installed the bios-update on switch 02.

 
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/10/31 16:46:59 (permalink)
This is the advance rma motherboard that they sent me to replace the first one.  This is why I keep on posting about all of the stupid things I go through every day just to get this thing to boot up.  If this thing kills my ssd I will be on every forum on the internet telling about it.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 02:12:32 (permalink)
Well this morning it went through 16 post loops before it allowed windows to boot.  6 times it stalled on the 2nd z87 ftw screen showing debug code A2.  Look at how many people are coming by and reading this thread.  Do not waste your money on this motherboard unless you want problems like this one to plague you on a daily basis.  Before evga sent me this one they said that they'd test it extensively to make sure that it was solid and well this one will boot eventually but it doesn't handle lots of drives being attached to it.  EVGA next time you test something how about configuring it like the customer and then see how it behaves.  I asked evga to let me step up to the z97 ftw when the first one demonstrated that it would not behave right so I could avoid more of these problems and they said no.   This mb is the second problematic z87 ftw and it was a replacement for a nforce 780i sli that had died and they no longer have which required me to buy a new cpuSo to recap this is the second z87 ftw that doesn't work right and this is not sitting well with me anymore.
post edited by HRPuffnstuff - 2014/11/01 03:40:13

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 03:45:35 (permalink)
FWIW I think that your hand off timings are way off and that subsequent changes to the bios since 1.01 have altered the relationships between them in a manner that is causing this behavior in this motherboard.  The one consistent thing that I've witnessed is that once the bios allows the boot drive to start loading windows it goes about 2 seconds before it drops the drive each and every time without fail.  The other thing that happens randomly is that even though windows starts to load and the drive gets dropped is that the very next time the drive starts to load windows is that no error message appears about the failed load attempt.  I think that evga should send me a z97 ftw immediately to replace this one with and that they should replace all z87 mb's for customers who are experiencing problems.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 05:05:36 (permalink)
I just tried to launch the evga e-leet tuning utility just to check and it immediately reset my machine and caused the bios to begin the repost process.  EVGA this motherboard is junk!

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 08:09:55 (permalink)
Well I tried to play a few rounds of bf3 a little while ago and the board took a dump on me after just a few minutes of playing with a bsod.   I then ran memtest 5.01 and as I expected no errors were found.  Then I tried to reboot and it took 4 post loops for it to hang on to my intel 520 and complete loading windows.  This board is junk and never in my life have I ever had so many problems from a new motherboard.  Usually if something is wrong they just die but this one just keeps on doing weird stuff when you least expect it.  I kept my word about posting in different forums and I will continue to do so until evga does the right thing for me concerning this board.  Hooking up a single drive and testing it doesn't place the same stress on the controller as populating all the ports and right now I'm only using 7 of the 8 but it shouldn't matter.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 09:58:18 (permalink)
This stupid board keeps on post looping so I've tried rolling back the bios on both sides to 1.10.  I tried 0.05 and it bsod's and then 1.06 which I found online but it trashed the bios side it was on so I rebooted on the 1.10 to my flash drive then switched back to the bios 1 side and reflashed it with 1.10.  If you guys run into a problem with trashing a side then remember to boot off a flash drive on the good side and once the post is done and the dos has loaded then execute the update file and then switch to the bad bios side before pressing Y to flash and it will reprogram the bad side.  With that said I'm aggravated with the board to say the least.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 13:59:20 (permalink)
With bios 1.10 this thing still post loops and it is getting worse.  I just looked my sata cables over just to rule them out as they are all new evga supplied from this mb and my e758 that I've not used before.  Bios 1.10 post looped 6 times before letting windows load.  Why would the bios just shut off and repost like someone hit the reset switch while loading windows?  The one thing that I've noticed with this one is that the chipset heat sink doesn't get anywhere near as hot as the other one did.  With bios 1.10 the board also remained stable while playing bf3 for several hours unlike 1.11 which takes a dump on me.  This behavior is just plain crazy and never in my life have I ever had a motherboard act like this especially with the power supply this one has.  I might try connecting the auxillary power up next even though I don't run sli.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 14:45:04 (permalink)
Well I shut it down and plugged in the 6 pin auxiliary power connector and rebooted.  It post looped 8 times before it came up so no change there.  I must say that the power connector location and orientation was not thought out properly.  Having it facing downward instead of out makes it difficult to reach.  I had to unscrew my power supply and move it in order to reach it.  Although I don't run sli at the moment I thought I'd try it just to be able to rule it out as a factor in this problem.  To be honest this is terrible and nobody should have to deal with a problem like this with a new motherboard.  Seeing that this is the second one in a row that is behaving this way I'm having a difficult time believing that the bios alone is at fault.  I'm going to stay with bios 1.10 for now and see how it behaves.
post edited by HRPuffnstuff - 2014/11/02 03:42:59

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 15:15:37 (permalink)
I am beginning to think it is something other than the motherboard, as I stated in my pm to you. It is strange to have two motherboards arrive, and have the exact same issue with both of them.

I know this may seem like craziness, but have you checked all of your connections on your power supply, make sure that every wire is properly seated it into respective connector, the connectors are fully seated on the power supply side and on the mother board side. I had random shut downs and hard restarts because my 24 pin was slightly canted, but still locked in to my seasonic PSU. I could get a video card to work, causing the whole system to hang with my Enermax PSU, because one of the cables wasn't fully seated in the connector.

It is extremely strange that two motherboards behave exactly the same, and the forums aren't flooded with this issue if it is the bios.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/01 17:06:36 (permalink)
It's not power related however I plugged in the 6 pin auxiliary power supply connector just to be sure.  It behaves like the bios and the chipset are not communicating properly.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 02:17:27 (permalink)
6 post loops to get it running this morning.  I find it strange that the cpu passes the intel processor test, the corsair dominator memory passes memtest 5.01 and crystal disk info shows all drives are in good health but the motherboard cannot reliably boot the system.  I've never had a problem with my hardware before until this motherboard.  I had a e758 lose a couple of memory slots but nothing like this.  This is the first motherboard that I have ever owned that couldn't boot the system because the bios would recycle itself during the windows loading process.  There is definitely a communications error between the bios and the chipset that is causing the chipset to reset the system when it shouldn't and my reset switch is not involved with this problem.
post edited by HRPuffnstuff - 2014/11/02 02:35:28

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 03:13:26 (permalink)
Have you attempted reinstalling the chipset driver, to see if that would help? I know it shouldn't have an effect on the boot, but as I stated, it is very strange to have two motherboards show up and have the exact same issue, and no one else complaining about it.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 03:51:14 (permalink)
The chipset driver is not involved when this problem presents itself.  There is a problem with the z87 chipset and this bios and if you'll notice it didn't take intel long to revise it and release the z97 chipset.  The first board I had deomonstrated the usb bug by taking the usb ports up and down while I was using it freezing my mouse and blinking the lights on my illuminated keyboard along with the windows event sounds.  If you happen to have bios version 1.01 could you please send it to me so I can flash back to it.  That version would boot each and every time I hit the power button but it would hang on a restart.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 05:35:48 (permalink)
I'm starting to discover some additional relationships between the two bios versions.  If bios 1 is an older version or trashed then bios 2 with 1.10 works.  I have also discovered that if I try to flash bios 1 with 1.04 and 1.05 that neither of them will work on bios 1 and both result in a FF debug led code.  However with both of them on bios 1 bios 2 with 1.10 seems to work properly and will boot my machine.  Now why is that?  Why did evga ship the board with 1.01 on bios 1 and 1.10 on bios 2?  If this is the required relationship then why no documentation for the end user to inform us of this requirement?  It shouldn't matter what version is on either side as they are supposed to be independent of one another however what I'm seeing suggests otherwise.  EVGA would you care to comment about this?  I have already requested bios 1.01 from evga so I can return the board to its original relationship but I was told that they no longer had that version available.  This has the worst motherboard manual I have ever seen and it has no real information for the end user to draw from.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 06:07:04 (permalink)
Alright I just discovered that since I've plugged in the auxiliary 6 pin power connector that the chipset has gotten extremely hot so I've unplugged it.  Also when I tried to flash bios 1 to 1.08 it seemed to flash alright but when I tried to boot off it I got the FF debug code and the system halted.  The bios 2 side with 1.10 is looping again and it took 6 times before it would not reset and allow windows to load.

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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 06:22:37 (permalink)
What bios update started supporting the 4790k, because the classified didn't become supported until bios 1.08, and if that is true with the bios of the FTW, then that is why you can't get a post with 1.04/1.05 more than likely. 1.01 isn't going to have many features, as all motherboards require an update right from the factory when they are first release, or so it would seem, but flashing a bios that doesn't support the cpu may be the issue. (not the overall issue, just the 1.04/1.05 issue).
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 06:27:43 (permalink)
With 1.01 on bios 1 and 1.10 on bios 2 the board worked but I only had it running a short time before I flashed it.  I flashed to 1.11 because it is supposed to be the most stable bios and that is when the trouble started.  Bios 1.01 works with the 4790k and it would boot the first time each and every time however if I did a software update that required a reboot it would hang.  Pressing the reset button would also cause a hang but shutting down then starting up would work normally.  There is nothing documenting the need to keep an older bios version on bios 1 and the newer bios version on bios 2.  Since each is independent of the other it shouldn't matter what version is on either side but my problem seems to suggest otherwise.  I am growing concerned that each version of the bios I'm trying to flash bios 1 with aren't working since 0.05 but the fact that the non functioning 104/05 being on bios 1 allowed bios 2 to seemingly work normally puzzles me.
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Re: This Z87 leaves a lot to be desired and it's nothing like previous evga mb's I've had 2014/11/02 06:49:23 (permalink)
I played around with bios 1 side and cycled it several times and 1.09 finally booted the system after it quit showing ff and started post cycling.  It took 4 post loops before it decided to let windows load so here I am.  It will hang on a restart which is what 1.10 addresses so I'm going to step it back up to 1.10 and try it with both side using the same bios version.

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