Ranmacanada
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Ok so winter is coming and i have need to fold, as it helps keep my room warm, and I can not fold at all on my rig. I am only doing gpu folding, and my system refuses. I have reinstalled, re did drivers, everything I can think of, and it pins my card at 100% but does so little work. I have tried keeping it overnight, and nothing at all. 2 hours 26 minutes is an insane fold time for a 670. It plays games fine, does cuda encoding fine. I am at a total loss of what is going on. Oh and to make matters worse, it WILL fold a core 15, but absolutely refuses to do any core 17. I have even tried to beta switch, but still no go on core 17 at all. I am at my wits end here as this rig worked perfectly fine last winter to fold. It's my main rig..it works FINE. Why is my folding broken :( I would just like to add that I just tried CPU folding only, and it told me I was going to do 275 points per day..on an i7 970, I think not..
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 00:36:46
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I'm kind of confused as to what's going on. You say core 17 doesn't work, but you also say something about 2+ hours. So does it fold core 17, just very slowly? Is that 2 hours 26 minutes the time per frame, or the time for the whole WU? How long are you letting it run before you see that estimate? Also, where are you getting that estimate from; are you looking at the logs, or is that what the client is telling you? If the latter, which version of the client are you using? What drivers are you running? Anything after 327.23 is terrible for folding on most Keplers, including yours.
Regarding the CPU, I think there's still a bug where the first CPU WU that gets downloaded on a new installation runs uniprocessor only. Every one after that is fine and runs on however many threads you specify.
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Ranmacanada
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 00:42:28
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It is 2 hours 26 minutes per fold on core 17. I have let it run overnight and it is still the same. I have tried different drivers and still I get the same time of 2 hours 26 minutes per fold, but ONLY on core 17 projects. (Core 15 are slower than normal, but no where near as slow as core 17)
The cpu fold, there is no way I am going to waste my electricity for 295 points a day. The CPU work unit had a complete time of 4 days, the GPU one was 10.2 days.
As I said, this is my main rig, and I used it last year for folding with no problems at all.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 02:05:32
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Here's some of my figures for comparison.
I'm folding 3 x 670s atm at stock running driver 335.23
Core 17 currenty on P13000 tpf around 11mins each giving around 80k ppd.
Are you folding on your cpu also? My i5 is oced to 4.8 stable but I don't fold with it. It keeps pretty busy working with 3 cards on the same rig.
Hope that helps
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 04:58:51
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I just opened mine on thursday nite and put it to folding right away. With the 344.11 drivers and the beta flag it picked up a core18 10473 and took over 14 hours at stock settings. Basically it performed a little worse than my 660ti on that particular wu. I'm now testing it on crunching projects and will get back to folding later in the weekend. Edit: BadBertie, did you revert to those drivers or were you always using them?
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 08:33:36
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I am not folding on my cpu, as for some reason it wants the cpu to fold just as bad as the GPU, when the GPU is folding. I am very frustrated with the fact that my 670 is going to to take days to do 1 simple work unit..
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 10:40:54
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yodap
With the 344.11 drivers and the beta flag it picked up a core18 10473 and took over 14 hours at stock settings.
Edit: BadBertie, did you revert to those drivers or were you always using them?
Hey yodap I've played with the new drivers when they come out, unless the forums warn against. Pretty sure I've had a crack with 344.11 but with no noticeable improvement so reverted to 335.23 but I didn't make notes. That being said, I looked up any P10473 that I may have completed recently and found results from July and August. Turns out these were taking19+ hours to complete for around 75k ppd. I'm thinking, is it time to update driver or is it just throttling by the board Asus Z68 Deluxe?
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 10:54:07
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I would say 2+ Hours I really good. My 3 GTX 780 take 10+ Hours per Core 17 Projects 13000 or 13001 Driver in use is 334.89. My PPD Per Project is about the same as BadBertie's above. See HFM today as I am Folding today on my GTX 780 Rig. Ranmacanada you don't say what Core 17 Projects you are running?
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 11:04:33
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Ranmacanada
The cpu fold, there is no way I am going to waste my electricity for 295 points a day. The CPU work unit had a complete time of 4 days, the GPU one was 10.2 days.
I see the same 10.x Days (GPU) as well but after you have folded 3% or 4% it will drop to 10 to 11 hours for Core 17 Projects 13000 and 13001.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/11 18:57:25
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With the 344.11 drivers and the beta flag it picked up a core18 10473 and took over 14 hours at stock settings.
Edit: BadBertie, did you revert to those drivers or were you always using them?
Hey yodap
I've played with the new drivers when they come out, unless the forums warn against. Pretty sure I've had a crack with 344.11 but with no noticeable improvement so reverted to 335.23 but I didn't make notes.
That being said, I looked up any P10473 that I may have completed recently and found results from July and August. Turns out these were taking19+ hours to complete for around 75k ppd.
I'm thinking, is it time to update driver or is it just throttling by the board Asus Z68 Deluxe?
No don't change anything because of my question. I think I'm in the same situation. I've only tested my 970 on a P67 system with a SB CPU. I'm sure it's my other hw holding me back. I'll be trying it in a Z77 box with a SB 2500k next.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/12 08:47:13
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A little update:
I put the 670 in the Z77 board. 2500k, 16Gb 1600 ram and W8.1. It picked up a core15 project, one of the 14k base point ones, and it's running through it, fluctuating between 59k and 79k ppd. So that's way better than a 660ti. I hope to pick up a core17-18 next.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/12 09:02:58
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Core 15 straight off! That sucks. Look forward to some more comparisons. Rannacanada - how's you 670 going now? Any improvement in ppd?
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/12 11:50:37
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I would say 2+ Hours I really good. My 3 GTX 780 take 10+ Hours per Core 17 Projects 13000 or 13001 Driver in use is 334.89.
My PPD Per Project is about the same as BadBertie's above. See HFM today as I am Folding today on my GTX 780 Rig.
Ranmacanada you don't say what Core 17 Projects you are running?
I'd forgotten you'd set up that mfc-cs link bcav. I think there's still merit in pooled stats. Or even evga team pooled history from hfm.net that would have been quite useful in this situation. Do you know if anyone is doing something like this already ie something that the team can contribute to?
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/12 13:38:11
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I would say 2+ Hours I really good. My 3 GTX 780 take 10+ Hours per Core 17 Projects 13000 or 13001 Driver in use is 334.89.
My PPD Per Project is about the same as BadBertie's above. See HFM today as I am Folding today on my GTX 780 Rig.
Ranmacanada you don't say what Core 17 Projects you are running?
I'd forgotten you'd set up that mfc-cs link bcav. I think there's still merit in pooled stats. Or even evga team pooled history from hfm.net that would have been quite useful in this situation. Do you know if anyone is doing something like this already ie something that the team can contribute to?
No not off hand, but someone on the team has an Excel file that shows on Google somewhere that pulls stats. I will look for it and post. It was Drougnor what he setup for TZC2014 this year. https://sites.google.com/site/evga2014tzc/homeHis process pulls data directly form the Folding Servers if I recall.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/10/30 10:30:48
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Well if it makes anyone feel any better, a GTX680 @ +50Mhz (1136Mhz core) (that I just relinquished to my old machine - E8400/P45 chipset (Asus P5QC, so eg. 1x PCI-E 2.0 x16), and 4GB RAM) picked up a P13000 and is showing 2:26 TPF, with a completion time of 10.18 days, for a completion reward of 17123 points. (PPD 1679)
Quite discouraging.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/11/01 08:43:15
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Well ever since I have gotten my 970, the only problems I have now are with core 15 units. I can not believe how bad those units are on this card.
I never was able to figure out why my GTX 670 was flaking out so bad. It worked fine doing anything else, just stopped working for folding :( I am thinking I maybe should have paid more and gotten a 980 haha, but I am seriously, SERIOUSLY happy with my 970!
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/11/01 08:46:30
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Well ever since I have gotten my 970, the only problems I have now are with core 15 units. I can not believe how bad those units are on this card.
I never was able to figure out why my GTX 670 was flaking out so bad. It worked fine doing anything else, just stopped working for folding :( I am thinking I maybe should have paid more and gotten a 980 haha, but I am seriously, SERIOUSLY happy with my 970!
Are you using client-type advanced? The 970/980 are only supported under Core 17 and you must use client-type = advanced
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/11/01 10:15:24
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Yes I am using client-type = advanced, but I guess stanford just loves handing out core 15 units to people who should not be having them. If you look around, a lot of people with 970-980 cards get these damn core 15 units. These units are horrible for our cards and use a considerable amount of more power to process.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/11/01 18:36:49
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There may have been a bit of a shortage of core 17/18 units.
my 780 got a core15 yesterday, then got a P13001.
that's on client-type = beta.
I may need to update my drivers, I'm still on 337.88.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 670 2 hour 26 minute fold time on core 17?
2014/11/02 13:34:56
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Doesn't seem to me that drivers, or client flags are playing a part in the assignment of 13000 / 13001 WUs.
I've been running both 337.88 and 344.48 with a GTX 680 in two different machines, with the client-type = advanced flag, and continuously see those two projects.
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