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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/27 18:24:37 (permalink)
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Have you considered precision 5.2.4, the newest version? It still doesn't enable KBoost with SLI setups, but it seems to be more stable overall. It is the first revision (for x15/16) I haven't deleted yet.

Define "more stable"?

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/27 18:28:21 (permalink)
I am having less driver crashes with it, than I did with 5.2.3 I removed .3 pretty quick with how my cards acted. I do occasionally get a shutdown in games, but they seem to be linked to the game specifically (bf4, I started playing again).

With .3 I was getting random crashes when I would apply any extra voltage or overclock at all. I have never had this issue before, so it makes me feel more comfortable using the newer version that is more stable. (still getting occasional crashes, so it isn't completely stable for me).
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/27 18:33:58 (permalink)
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I would. Not one of my scores is done with using it. And all it does it keeps your cards nice and warm.


Thanks again John,
I'll try those changes tomorrow and see what happens.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/27 19:51:22 (permalink)
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I am having less driver crashes with it, than I did with 5.2.3 I removed .3 pretty quick with how my cards acted. I do occasionally get a shutdown in games, but they seem to be linked to the game specifically (bf4, I started playing again).

With .3 I was getting random crashes when I would apply any extra voltage or overclock at all. I have never had this issue before, so it makes me feel more comfortable using the newer version that is more stable. (still getting occasional crashes, so it isn't completely stable for me).

 
I'll look into it tomorrow. See if anything changes for me.
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Thanks again John,
I'll try those changes tomorrow and see what happens.



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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/28 10:17:37 (permalink)
Got Better Results, But even though I'm now running at 4.698GHz (47x multiplier/100 Bclk), I still can't quite get past 40K in 3DMark 11 Performance.
 
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 11:17:25 (permalink)
Very nice extreme cooling rig, but unfortunately is also NOT affordable OR maintainable by anyone here except you.  Not going to hate though.  If I win the lottery and don't have need of a job anymore, I'll come over and we can have competitions in race cars and extreme overclocked computers all day long!  lmao

 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/28 11:18:33 (permalink)
Vantage Performance run at 4.798GHz and STILL only managed to break 90K.
 
Oh Well, There must be a problem somewhere I haven't found/corrected yet, But I'll keep working at it!
 

 
 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/28 11:46:05 (permalink)
Gained Only 307 points using the same settings of my previous run after going from a CPU OC of 4.698GHz to 4.798GHz....Very Strange the way things are going today. 
 

post edited by hallowen - 2014/10/28 16:53:06

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 12:05:43 (permalink)
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Very nice extreme cooling rig, but unfortunately is also NOT affordable OR maintainable by anyone here except you.  Not going to hate though.  If I win the lottery and don't have need of a job anymore, I'll come over and we can have competitions in race cars and extreme overclocked computers all day long!  lmao


On the Contrary, There are Quite a Few of us around this and Other Forums that like Myself that have been Building/Maintaining these Extreme Rigs for Years.
 
Personally, Since I've been Retired since 2007 with No More Working every day and All the Time I Need, I am quite happy to be able to afford this "Hobby" of mine and work on it Constantly.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 12:48:03 (permalink)
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Very nice extreme cooling rig, but unfortunately is also NOT affordable OR maintainable by anyone here except you.  Not going to hate though.  If I win the lottery and don't have need of a job anymore, I'll come over and we can have competitions in race cars and extreme overclocked computers all day long!  lmao


On the Contrary, There are Quite a Few of us around this and Other Forums that like Myself that have been Building/Maintaining these Extreme Rigs for Years.
 
Personally, Since I've been Retired since 2007 with No More Working every day and All the Time I Need, I am quite happy to be able to afford this "Hobby" of mine and work on it Constantly.



"...few of us..." is a very correct statement.  Percentage wise, you make up less than 0.001% of the computer enthusiast market.  But alas, it's still fun to watch you guys do what you do even if the rest of mankind doesn't benefit in the slightest :P
 
Now, if you really want to impress folks...how about use the Peltier cooling and have ZERO condensation?  Or better yet, how about using a Peltier cooler AND a cooking oil type submersion method where the oil is also actively cooled using large radiators :D   But then, I saw this done already.  Intel dev team demonstrated this at a recent Intel LANFest party.  Twas very cool to watch...literally!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 13:50:03 (permalink)
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Very nice extreme cooling rig, but unfortunately is also NOT affordable OR maintainable by anyone here except you.  Not going to hate though.  If I win the lottery and don't have need of a job anymore, I'll come over and we can have competitions in race cars and extreme overclocked computers all day long!  lmao
 

 
You say we could compete in both race cars and extreme overclocked computers all day?, OK, Here's a Pic of my 1014 RWHP 2004 Ford Mustang Cobra Twin-Turbo Street Car that was Featured in the January 2013 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords (Page 52 if you are interested).
 


Iluv2raceit
 
Now, if you really want to impress folks...how about use the Peltier cooling and have ZERO condensation?  Or better yet, how about using a Peltier cooler AND a cooking oil type submersion method where the oil is also actively cooled using large radiators :D   But then, I saw this done already.  Intel dev team demonstrated this at a recent Intel LANFest party.  Twas very cool to watch...literally!




That's Cool, Seen All that Oil immersion stuff, Why don't you go over to Kingpincooling.com and see what some REAL Extreme Overclockers do with their Rigs.
 

post edited by hallowen - 2014/10/28 14:07:06

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 18:03:54 (permalink)
 That's your car, wow!
Picked you had a nice mustang. But wow.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/28 18:40:16 (permalink)
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 That's your car, wow!
Picked you had a nice mustang. But wow.


 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 07:49:55 (permalink)
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Got Better Results, But even though I'm now running at 4.698GHz (47x multiplier/100 Bclk), I still can't quite get past 40K in 3DMark 11 Performance.
 
 
 



hallowen
Gained Only 307 points using the same settings of my previous run after going from a CPU OC of 4.698GHz to 4.798GHz....Very Strange the way things are going today. 
 


hallowen
Vantage Performance run at 4.798GHz and STILL only managed to break 90K.
 
Oh Well, There must be a problem somewhere I haven't found/corrected yet, But I'll keep working at it!
 

 
 


Not sure what to make of it?


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 08:28:42 (permalink)
I'll figure it out eventually.
 
BTW, Your Benching pic from last night doesn't show up for some reason now!

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 08:31:12 (permalink)


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 12:40:08 (permalink)
Extreme oc'ing looks like a lot of fun & I'm thinking of giving it a try on my old a8-3870k (or an old Phenom II) as an experiment. 
 
What would you guy's suggest for a good starting substance? I was thinking a saltwater & ice mixture to start off with (worked decently well with testing, -9.45c (can get colder with right mixture)with an ambient of 13.8c{and I know this isn't the best idea due to the salt water corroding things}) and work my way down from there. Err, scratch that. Not really practical for actual usage.
 
Any really cheap cooling pots out there (sub $100-150)?
 
And, what materials would you recommend for insulating the board? 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
 
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 13:32:14 (permalink)
You can buy a simple water chiller and connect it to any water setup you come up with. and can be used for 24/7 use. Heck, if the loop is long enough. You never have to actually turn it on for everyday use. They can get as cold as -30 to 0 to 10C. or you can make one. This would be the best starting point. Why? because you can still run some extreme by dropping the water temps and when done. Raise them.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 14:11:23 (permalink)


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 14:41:29 (permalink)
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You can buy a simple water chiller and connect it to any water setup you come up with. and can be used for 24/7 use. Heck, if the loop is long enough. You never have to actually turn it on for everyday use. They can get as cold as -30 to 0 to 10C. or you can make one. This would be the best starting point. Why? because you can still run some extreme by dropping the water temps and when done. Raise them.


Know of any guides for making one?



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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 15:03:09 (permalink)
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Know of any guides for making one?




 I know there's a lot of pages but I think that info is in this thread somewhere.
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 15:34:41 (permalink)
This is a little dated, But basically it shows how to make an A/C Conversion Chiller.
 
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=101902

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 15:45:40 (permalink)
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This is a little dated, But basically it shows how to make an A/C Conversion Chiller.
 
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=101902


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/29 16:36:37 (permalink)
I just remembered that there is an old dodge van (parts car) parked behind my dad's shop that still has the a/c system. If I can disassemble it I could turn it into a phase change system, all I would need is a compressor and an evaporator block with a mounting bracket to get it to work. 
 
You guys know of anyone who could make me an evap. block w/ mount?



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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/30 10:31:45 (permalink)
Ok, I pulled the condenser (full aluminum), it's looks to be in decent condition but definitely needs some cleaning.

 
I also found this, perfect size for a quad 120mm wc rad, has the fittings and everything (520 x 120 x 35mm{13 FPI}). Unfortunately it's completely made of aluminum, on the plus side: it's really light because of that.

 
And I found an old water cooler, I'm going to use the compressor from it, would it be good enough? The tank/compressor is roughly 6 x 6 x 6in (or smaller) so i'm thinking it's too small.
 
 



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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/31 10:10:11 (permalink)
That condenser is about the size of mine, except for mine is half that size and double the thickness. (So yours flipped in half) I have 4 fans on it.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/10/31 10:54:21 (permalink)
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That condenser is about the size of mine, except for mine is half that size and double the thickness. (So yours flipped in half) I have 4 fans on it.


Ok, good, it's big enough then.
 
What about that water cooler compressor, is it big enough? Or does size not matter?



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/31 10:56:06 (permalink)
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Picked you had a nice mustang. But wow.


 
Thanks, I've put around $114K in it over the years, and I Always get a Lot of Comments when People find out it belongs to a 69 Year Old "Senior Citizen". LOL!!


So what if you are 69, my late Grandfather Ron had a Cobra that he drove until he died in his 70s, his youth caught up with him, and he was one of the best drivers I have ever ridden with even in old age.  Also, Carroll Shelby was building great stuff into old age as well.  If you are 69 with a badass ride that you can and will use, more power to ya!  Im a gearhead myself, and hope to still be doing it at your age good sir.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/10/31 11:42:07 (permalink)
Thanks Dave,
More than likely I'll probably still be doing it until they pry the steering wheel out of my "Cold Dead Hands", But That's a Long Way Off yet!
 

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