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I was hoping someone might comment from EVGA on this: Will there be an x99 ATX motherboard in your future? Here are the reasons I ask: 1. Some people just hate the size of E-ATX motherboard. I know, its not THAT much bigger but, the fact is, its still huge. And some of us either don't have the case for it, or don't want to buy a new case for it, or simply want a smaller size, but not quite mATX. 2. On that note, the x99 mATX was a real "missed" target in my opinion. With there being 2 other mATX motherboards on the market with better power management, and full 2280 m.2 support, all the while being cheaper than the EVGA x99 micro, I feel like its a poor compromise to those who just 'don't want E-ATX'. Especially if we have to give up features at a higher price. 3. With the much wider range of case support that ATX has, it could be an easier 'sell', which is probably why many other board manufacturers have released fantastic ATX motherboards with more features than the EVGA x99 Classified even on its larger and more spacious E-ATX form factor. Why am I bringing this up? Well, mainly because I want an ATX motherboard, but I just can't bring myself to buy any other motherboard than an EVGA one. I have been treated SO well here. And any time that I have ever needed customer support for any of my motherboards, whether msi, gigabyte, asus, or intel, they all had awful customer support and the experience was like clawing my eyes out with forks.. But EVGA? Nope, with you guys it was a totally different story. EVGA spoiled me IMMEDIATELY with their amazing 24/7 customer support, knowledgeable employees, incredible forums and community support, that buying another board from a different manufacturer (although more enticing and sometimes cheaper) just isn't worth it to me. I know I'll be taken care of here, and I know that the products that EVGA does manufacture are QUALITY. Sure things break, sure there are problems. Thats just electronics, and there's no getting around that. What counts is how faithfully that company will stand behind what it just sold you for $200-$400. So if EVGA happens to ever listen to the voice of even 1 dude on their forum, could you please take this to idea table, kick up some papers, and see what people at EVGA HQ think about this? If anything, it might be a chance to revise some of the things that you guys felt didn't turn out exactly the way you wanted on some of your other boards? IF ANYTHING, thanks for reading and being awesome. I suppose I can always wait for Intel's Broadwell release and EVGAs ATX answer to that, and upgrade then... but with all the excitement of x99 and ddr4... who wants to wait?!
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/18 11:13:56
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You have Thermaltake Spedo Advanced? If we talk about this case I think E-ATX can fit inside...and you will have room for cables. E-ATX will cover maximum empty holes for holders.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/18 11:14:58
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No I do not. My profile picture is of an older computer that I no longer have.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/21 07:03:50
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Agree with you, somewhat, in that from personal experience, the EATX, though not MUCH bigger, has that annoying horizontal 24 pin connector, which invariably gets in the way of the drive cage (or vise-versa). Just rebuilding my son's CoolerMaster HAF 912 with my old Z68 FTW (EATX). It's a tight squeeze, and that damned connector! Granted, it's only touted as an ATX case, but back, to your original point. Wholeheartedly agree, that it's tough to leave EVGA, despite feature-lacking boards (this only seems to be a mobo issue, right?), when their support, has been head and shoulders, above the rest. Come on EVGA, listen to your fans; not everyone wants "colossus" sitting next to their desk, and you certainly can't put them UNDER your desk! Speaking of "Colossus", watch out for a new movie, about Alan Turing, staring Benedict Cumberbatch and Kiera Knightly (8.1 on IMDB).
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/21 09:45:29
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I would declared prohibition of normal type of Connector... All motherboard with this type of connector must be burned in next 30 days And manufacturer must cross on this type of connector on all motherboards form factors...
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/21 19:34:10
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I'm honestly ok with either connect. While I think the horizontal one is nice for cable management, I think the vertical connector is nice for showing off premium or self-sleeved cables. I just want an EVGA motherboard with no compromise. M.2, 3way SLI, ALL BLACK, no skimping on power management, no UGLY "hammered/dented" heat pipe running beside the ram dimms and cpu socket to the top (have no idea why thats there or WHAT they were thinking... seriously though, what in the world... how could the sell X99 boards with something so ugly as a dented heat pipe?), good ram brand/speed compatibility, overclockability, USB 2.0 AND 3.0, PS2, Intel Gigabit Network controller, and realtek integrated sound. Pack that all into an EVGA ATX motherboard with their BEST IN MARKET customer service, and I'll buy 2. One for me, and one for my brother. Thats another promise!
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/21 22:28:45
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X58, X79 and X99 are not nicest platform for choosing ATX Form and demand all functions. It's possible, but 75% are E-ATX and most of Z chipset are E-ATX. Rampage III Extreme, Maximus Extreme series, EVGA X79 Dark, X58 Classified, G1 Assassin, G1 Sniper, ... most of best motherboards are E-ATX. It's really hard to find real high end motherboard in ATX Format except for AMD. I mean if someone think to pay 250 or even 350$ for motherboard it's logic to choose some case of 90-100$ case where everything can fit. Today nice Mid Tower case need to support E-ATX Form factor. All manufacturer think on that.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 05:31:44
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Thats just not true though! More than HALF of the X99 motherboards on Newegg.com are ATX with all of these features in them already. Shoot, for that matter, there are two x99 mATX motherboards on newegg that have all of these features too. So, yes, if I cared that much I could just buy from ASrock and call it good, but I'd be missing out on everything else that matters, that in my opinion is much more important than "features" and thats quality service.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 06:29:33
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The EVGA X99 Micro is M-ATX Form Factor you could go with this Motherboard. 2-Way SLI no problem, 3-Way SLI Tight Fit but supports it. Myself I like the E-ATX motherboard for Water Cooling space and for overclocking they realty are not meant to be your family computers or kids computer other then the Kid in all of us. They are for the Enthusiast Computer owners and builders.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 08:58:10
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No I couldn't, at least not for what I want to do. 3 way SLI would only work if I had 3 single slot graphics cards. The M.2 socket on the X99 micro is a KEY-E type, which is for wireless adapters only not storage devices. I personally don't want to do 3 way SLI, I just want two way, with PCI-E storage options. But two 980/970 cards will cover all of the PCI slots, eliminating the possibility of storage yet again. So the only thing that board offers me is SLI... which.... is what every board offers now days. And thats just sad for EVGA to offer a brand new x99 board that only offers SLI and a wireless option? It makes no sense that the only real feature for that board is DDR4 capability.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 09:22:24
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Both of these motherboards are perfect examples of what I'm talking about: -ASrock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543
-MSI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130796 Both of these boards support 3 way sli, a FULL sized m.2 slot, usb 2.0, usb 3.0, PS2, 10 Sata ports, RAM support up to 128gb at 3000mhz, and the ASrock board has high quality integrated audio to boot. All these features in a smaller form factor thats organized and (granted I know this is a subjective opinion) more attractive. Not to mention 200 DOLLARS CHEAPER??? ....Can anyone else see why this is frustrating?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 16:47:48
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I am not getting what the issue is about. I feel the X99 EVGA boards are high end with all the bells and whistles and than some (H20/LN2) and so do other MB manufacturers. I am sure each one has some features others might not have. That's just part of business. Maybe they can't have certain things that others have since the price would change. I am sure they aim for a certain price range for each line. You have a choice to pick which one you like. You could give constructive criticism and hope they add certain features they didn't previously added but you sound stressed or upset. lol No need. Take a breath and enjoy what we have at hand and the options we get all around in general. And for the record, I love the 90 degree headers. Its going to be my first. You just have to be creative if you want to show off your custom cables or what not. It's just not only for nice looks but great cable management and better case airflow.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 19:51:23
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gtxjackbauer I am not getting what the issue is about. I feel the X99 EVGA boards are high end with all the bells and whistles and than some (H20/LN2) and so do other MB manufacturers. I am sure each one has some features others might not have. That's just part of business. Maybe they can't have certain things that others have since the price would change. I am sure they aim for a certain price range for each line. You have a choice to pick which one you like. You could give constructive criticism and hope they add certain features they didn't previously added but you sound stressed or upset. lol No need. Take a breath and enjoy what we have at hand and the options we get all around in general. And for the record, I love the 90 degree headers. Its going to be my first. You just have to be creative if you want to show off your custom cables or what not. It's just not only for nice looks but great cable management and better case airflow.
The OP wants EVGA to make an X99 ATX Size Motherboard is all, I think.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/22 23:07:59
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To me the X series is design for the big beasts/ Hardcore OC like the X58, X79 and X99. Back when the X58 still around it normal standard was XL-ATX and thats massive. I surprise that the X79 have a micro model. I think that when it comes to size and features the Z series is much better.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/23 00:18:14
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To be honest though, I am surprised that the FTW isnt atx. The x58 and x79 were atx.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/23 00:18:16
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To be honest though, I am surprised that the FTW isnt atx. The x58 and x79 were atx.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/23 12:15:57
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I believe it has been said already from EVGA (Jacob) and correct me if I am wrong that the "E-ATX" X99 MBs from EVGA are "SLIGHTLY" larger than ATX boards. They're technically not a full spec'd E-ATX MB. Thanks for pointing that out seta.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 10:56:52
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gtxjackbauer I believe it has been said already from EVGA (Jacob) and correct me if I am wrong that the "E-ATX" X99 MBs from EVGA are "SLIGHTLY" larger than ATX boards. They're technically not a full spec'd E-ATX MB. Thanks for pointing that out seta.
Well that is actually some really cool news! Is there an original thread that discusses the exact size differences?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 11:27:27
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ATX-12x9.6, EVGA EATX-12x10.375,. So a little over 3/4" more on the width.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 12:30:20
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VVhiplash I personally don't want to do 3 way SLI, I just want two way, with PCI-E storage options. But two 980/970 cards will cover all of the PCI slots, eliminating the possibility of storage yet again. Hint: Riser ribbons. Either you sacrifice feature preferences for brand loyalty or sacrifice brand loyalty for features; or try riser ribbons and position your cards elsewhere and stay with EVGA.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 13:25:17
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VVhiplash I personally don't want to do 3 way SLI, I just want two way, with PCI-E storage options. But two 980/970 cards will cover all of the PCI slots, eliminating the possibility of storage yet again. Hint: Riser ribbons. Either you sacrifice feature preferences for brand loyalty or sacrifice brand loyalty for features; or try riser ribbons and position your cards elsewhere and stay with EVGA.
Very good advice here
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 16:41:06
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VVhiplash I personally don't want to do 3 way SLI, I just want two way, with PCI-E storage options. But two 980/970 cards will cover all of the PCI slots, eliminating the possibility of storage yet again. Hint: Riser ribbons. Either you sacrifice feature preferences for brand loyalty or sacrifice brand loyalty for features; or try riser ribbons and position your cards elsewhere and stay with EVGA.
Very good advice here
Dang I didn't think of that.. That is good advice :) ...But I'd no longer be able to use M.2 SSDs then right? I'd have to go with PCI-E SSDs which cost more.. They are faster though aren't they? I'm looking at the "PCI-E SSD" section on Newegg, but almost all of the SSDs available are still M.2.. Is there an M.2 connector card for a PCI-E slot that I could use then? Edit: So I've found a couple of SSD to PCI-E/Sata cards, but they top out at 6gb/s so there is literally no reason to go with a SATA SSD instead.. Asus' X99 Delux has a great looking M.2-PCI-E card which keeps you at the standard 32gb/s limit, but it doesn't look like they sell it separately...
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 16:49:27
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No plans for ATX on X99 right now, but to be honest, the EVGA X99 boards are not really "true" EATX form factor, instead they are just slightly wider than ATX, but we still call it EATX.
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 17:04:27
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Thanks for the response! And thanks for your time and attention Jacob :) Its greatly appreciated!
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 17:33:40
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FR3D1 To me the X series is design for the big beasts/ Hardcore OC like the X58, X79 and X99. Back when the X58 still around it normal standard was XL-ATX and thats massive. I surprise that the X79 have a micro model. I think that when it comes to size and features the Z series is much better.
That is only semi accurate. There was only 1 XL-ATX, which is standard ATX Width and REALLY tall. The LE, 3x SLI, SLI3 and FTW3 were all standard ATX, Classified Limitted Edition (E759), Classified (E760), and Classified 3 (E770) were EATX, only the E762 was XL-ATX. @OP As Jacob stated no current plans. However, we do appreciate the loyalty for our products and glad our hardware and functioned well as well as glad our CS Team has taken care of you when needed. I am sorry we do not have the board that you are looking for right now, but we always have our eyes and ears open for new products down the road. THANKS!
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/10/24 18:48:45
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FR3D1 To me the X series is design for the big beasts/ Hardcore OC like the X58, X79 and X99. Back when the X58 still around it normal standard was XL-ATX and thats massive. I surprise that the X79 have a micro model. I think that when it comes to size and features the Z series is much better.
That is only semi accurate. There was only 1 XL-ATX, which is standard ATX Width and REALLY tall. The LE, 3x SLI, SLI3 and FTW3 were all standard ATX, Classified Limitted Edition (E759), Classified (E760), and Classified 3 (E770) were EATX, only the E762 was XL-ATX. @OP As Jacob stated no current plans. However, we do appreciate the loyalty for our products and glad our hardware and functioned well as well as glad our CS Team has taken care of you when needed. I am sorry we do not have the board that you are looking for right now, but we always have our eyes and ears open for new products down the road. THANKS!
Ya know, as far as EVGA boards go, you might just have what I'm looking for in the X99 classified since its not as large as I originally thought :) ONE big question though, and I was wondering if you guys could help me solve this. I need to know if a graphics card WITH a backplate will fit in the first pcie slot right below the ram, with 4 sticks of ram in it. If a card will fit there WITH a backplate on it, it'll do :) Also, I noticed that the use of some M.2 slots on other manufacturers motherboards will actually disable one of the last PCI-E slots on the board. Is that the case with any of EVGAs boards?
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Re: X99 ATX in EVGAs Future?
2014/11/07 15:53:23
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EVGATech_DaveB That is only semi accurate. There was only 1 XL-ATX, which is standard ATX Width and REALLY tall. The LE, 3x SLI, SLI3 and FTW3 were all standard ATX, Classified Limitted Edition (E759), Classified (E760), and Classified 3 (E770) were EATX, only the E762 was XL-ATX.
Yeah the X99 Classy is a dwarf compared to my previous E762 X58 Classy, I actually had a whole row of standoffs left at the bottom that need to be pulled from the mount surface. That was one mosterous mobo, but it always ran flawless with everything and all those pcie slots gave you a nice warm feeling inside (might have been the 4x480's I was running back then). I was lucky on my LSI megaraid, it was the only classy that could run the card back then I think. The lack of space in the smaller boards' bios memory wouldn't allow the rom to run. I'll stick with the colossus boards for now after that
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