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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 08:47:58 (permalink)
do you have cpu-z instaled on your sr-2 rig?
i like to know if you can read all ram slots a the SPD tab.
and did you test all the rams?
like putting 6 dims in test if they work and than replace them whit 6 other thil you have don them all.
and if you fill all the banks and you disabeld 1 cpu whit the jumpers ,if you stil see the full banks or if ther also missing som rams.
i don't have experiance whit 12 dimms.only 6 ar instaled
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 08:54:43 (permalink)
Yes I have cpu-z but no need to check since evga e-leet sees my 48 GB (as shown in one of the screenshots). This also means no need to check dimm slots. All is working...so it's likely a bios setting or two. I just don't know which one to change.
 
I set the ram timings manually to what the ram are rated but I don't know what tRFC should be set to because I can't find that info on google so it's set to auto. e-leet shows me it's at 143 which I think is too high but I doubt this setting would be responsible for the incorrect ram size.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 08:56:18 (permalink)
Take it in small steps, we need to find out if it is the ram or the cpu's settings making it unstable. Drop the divider down on the ram to run it at a lower setting than stock, then do your tests, if it still is not stable then its the cpu settings and its time to work on those. You make a change at anything then test.

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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 09:00:14 (permalink)
sorry din't wacht this area of the pic, i was just watching your volt's and temps :)
and doze cpu-z find the 48gig of ram?
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 09:02:32 (permalink)
I doubt it's the cpu settings since even with bios all cleared and cpu's running at their stock speeds it still doesn't see all 48 GB.
 
Here's my cpu-z for ram: 

All slots are populated with the same as above.
post edited by yorkman - 2014/10/20 09:04:38

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 09:06:37 (permalink)
cuda-dude
Take it in small steps, we need to find out if it is the ram or the cpu's settings making it unstable. Drop the divider down on the ram to run it at a lower setting than stock, then do your tests, if it still is not stable then its the cpu settings and its time to work on those. You make a change at anything then test.


Sorry but which setting exactly is the divider in the bios? I think I already have the ram set to its lowest speed at 1066MHz though I tried the higher ones too (1333Mhz).
post edited by yorkman - 2014/10/20 09:09:38

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 09:33:49 (permalink)
the ram divider is the setting wher you can set 1333 , 1066 and 800
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 09:54:48 (permalink)
what is your voltage in bios for the ioh PLL?
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 12:21:04 (permalink)
1.80V. It's also in screenshot. And I tried all dividers already. One thing that is or is not related is whenever I reboot Win'7 it never posts. I think the code I always see is FF or F4. I have to hold the power button to turn it off and back on again. Possibly a stability issue although the system has been running fine at 4.1 GHz full load for almost 9 hrs now.
 
Anyway, 40 GB is max I can get. Tried higher/lower dimm voltages. Not sure what else I can try.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 13:13:33 (permalink)
Here's some more info using CPU Tweaker:


Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
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Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 15:44:36 (permalink)
The ram is controlled by each cpu, if you could only see half the ram I would say bent cpu socket pins bit since it is just some of the ram I would pull all of it and place one stick per cpu and test all of it to make sure it's all fine, then start adding ram until the bad slot is found if all the ram passed as good. The cpu temps are up there because of voltage, if you personally did not do the heatsink paste then re do it just to make sure, if you did do it then it must be fine.

EVGA Sr-2 w58 bios
xeon x5690 x 2
evga GTX 780 ti Kingpins  x4 sli
clocked on H20 to 4.3
48 gig Corsair 1600 ram
Geekbench 34475 Windows 8.1 x64
Geekbench 36660 Linux Generic Kernel x64
3Dmark 11 Performance  26393  #1 x5690 Record
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 18:59:17 (permalink)
Thanks for replying cuda-dude. But why would I need to remove/test ram slots when evga e-leet and cpu-z show the correct size detected, 48 GB? Anyway I can do that but I just don't understand why it'd be necessary.
 
Also, for the heatsink paste...I only Arctic Silver 5. Can I use that or is there something much better? I've always used AS5 and never an issue but maybe there's something better nowadays, especially for the Xeons?

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 20:46:42 (permalink)
cuda-dude: I decided to take your advice anyway even though it didn't make sense and here's what I found out.
 
Dimm slots on cpu0 all work and see 24 GB of the ram (6*4) at BIOS, OS, e-leet and cpu-z.
However, on cpu1, two of the dimm slots BIOS & OS won't see but CPU-Z/e-leet does and gives me the correct total ram.
 
So at post and in windows, 6 sticks of ram in all dimm slots on cpu1, it shows me 16 GB of ram yet if I load up evga e-leet or cpu-z they see all 6 sticks on cpu1, 24 GB total. How is that possible and what does that mean? If the two dimms are bad, why do eleet and cpu-z see them?

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:02:51 (permalink)
Dimm slots on cpu 2 that dont work on ram that is proven to work  are either bad (or dirty) ram slots or a bent pin in the cpu socket or cpu. Ram that shows up in software after booting never counts and is not used by the operating system. Only the ram that posts is then sent to the operating system for use. Sounds like a careful inspection of the ram slots with a super magnifying glass and the cpu socket is in order, sometimes a light, light cleaning is all that is needed if you get aggressve then the board may just cancel out an entire cpu. These SR-2 boards are big and bend easily so it is very common to have cpu socket pin issues. If you move forward be careful because right now you are only losing a few gigs of ram and the system is not compromised, if you mess things up worse you will be sending the board in to evga for repair.

EVGA Sr-2 w58 bios
xeon x5690 x 2
evga GTX 780 ti Kingpins  x4 sli
clocked on H20 to 4.3
48 gig Corsair 1600 ram
Geekbench 34475 Windows 8.1 x64
Geekbench 36660 Linux Generic Kernel x64
3Dmark 11 Performance  26393  #1 x5690 Record
3Dmark Fire Strike Extreme  14775
3Dmark Fire Strike Ultra     10953
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:13:30 (permalink)
Makes sense. I looked carefully at the two dimm slots and although I don't have a magnifying glass around the dimms and the pins inside look good.
 
Next will be to remove the cpu coolers and check the cpus and sockets for bent pins and I have a feeling it'll be one of those. And if that's the case then I should probably just leave things as they are and be happy. But I know I'll keep thinking about it and sooner or later I may break and inspect them anyway. For now, I think I'll just leave it especially since I don't need that extra 8 GB of ram.
 
Man, I knew I should've inspected the cpus and sockets before paying but I ran a quick check and everything was fine. I knew it was posting only 40 GB but I figured it's because of the overclocking or that the ram timings needed to be set in bios. I didn't want to hold the guy up and play with the system for so long especially since he delivered it to me. Maybe that's why I can't OC higher than 4.1GHz too? 

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
Videocard: el cheapo PCI-E gpu
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:26:20 (permalink)
When you test the ram on cpu1 was cpu0 disabled whit the jumper?
If its disabled and you see 24 GB all slot's ar working on the bord and it's must be a bios setting.
But i don't know which and i don't have the 4the set to fill all the 12 slots and try to replicate your problem whit two of my slower cpu's.
post edited by skulstation2 - 2014/10/20 22:31:34
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:31:32 (permalink)
Yes it was disabled with the jumper. I repeated the same test a 2nd time without disabling the cpu jumpers and same thing.
 
Other than that I'm still wondering if everybody else has their cpu1 run about 12 degrees hotter than cpu0, at least with the x5670's?
 

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:42:06 (permalink)
I do'nt remember the temperature when running two cpu's but i think it was closer than 12 degrees
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:44:09 (permalink)
Closer than 12 degrees? I guess you mean less than 12.
 
Maybe someone else knows? Doesn't have to be with x5670's. Can someone else tell me what difference in temps they have under full load for cpu0 and cpu1???

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 22:54:58 (permalink)
Yes i mean less than 12 degrees.but this was whit two e5606 ( 3.2G @ 1.305v ) and e5504 ( 3.15G @ 1.117v)
i have found a pic of the dual e5606 at the time of this run i don't have the cominator gt 2000 at my place only a quad channel 2133 kit from geil this is wy its run at dual channel
http://img.hwbot.org/u21574/image_id_1208449.jpg
post edited by skulstation2 - 2014/10/20 22:57:35
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 23:02:31 (permalink)
Not much difference in temps in those pics. I found it odd though that the bios version in that pic is 080016 (same as mine) but the dates are completely off with it being 08/25/2011 while mine is 04/24/2013 although 04/25/2013 is the date shown on evga's website so I think I do have the latest bios.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
Videocard: el cheapo PCI-E gpu
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 23:15:25 (permalink)
My bios id is 1W555A56 if i am remember corect this is the same bios as the A58 only whit a mis match in the date.
did you test all your ram at cpu0?just to chek if they ar working.
post edited by skulstation2 - 2014/10/20 23:17:35
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 23:39:52 (permalink)
Where does it tell you that id? Cpu-z somewhere? For the bios in cpu-z all I have is the version, date and brand.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
Videocard: el cheapo PCI-E gpu
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/20 23:52:09 (permalink)
The bios id can be found in the standard bios features.And it whil be 1w555a58
i have this bios on a other bios chip.for some reason not use in a longe time
 
post edited by skulstation2 - 2014/10/20 23:54:42
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/21 14:29:31 (permalink)
I decided to remove cpu1 (I knew I'd do this eventually) and inspected the cpu and socket. No issues found. The only thing left to do is to swap the cpu's, cpu1 with cpu0 and cpu0 with cpu1, to see if it follows the cpu. I will do that later.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
Videocard: el cheapo PCI-E gpu
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Re: EVGA SR-2 and 2x X5680 OC'd 2014/10/24 08:23:54 (permalink)
Well I have swapped both cpu's now and 40 GB is still the max (if I lower DDR3 to 1066 from 1333, or 2:8) so it's not the cpu's. The good news however is that I could OC this thing to 4.30-4.40 GHz and seems pretty stable so far.
 
I've decided to RMA this thing since there's warranty on it. Hopefully the replacement board fixes the problem as it just appears that two specific dim's on the mobo won't work. Also hopefully it won't negate my overclocking.

Mobo: Evga SR-2 A58 Bios
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5670 @ 4.35 GHz w/out turbo (198*22) @ 1.35625*2 vCore.
Ram: Corsair Dominator GT PC-16000 (2000 MHz) 9-10-9-27 @ 1.60V
Cooling: 2x Cooler Master 240 
Psu: Seasonic Platinum 1000W 
Case: Corsair Obsidian 900d
Videocard: el cheapo PCI-E gpu
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