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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/15 22:30:50
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I probably shouldn't have done this but I decided to continue playing CSGO with those settings you mentioned for MSI afterburner and I haven't had any issues for nearly 4-5 hours. I may try some other games tomorrow to see if it will hard reboot or freeze again but I RMA'd both my GPU and PSU. Should I run memtest in the mean time or still a bad idea since PSU may be faulty? I probably won't buy another PSU as long as CSGO continues to work and just wait for the replacement.
If it were my system I would wait, but you can do whatever you like as it's your system and not mine.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/16 01:22:08
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4 successful passes with memtest. I guess it's safe to assume it's either the psu and/or gpu. I will run a few other games, especially the one that caused the reboot, and will report back soon. Thanks.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 00:35:02
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So the new refurbished GPU has so far been good to me. I played a few short hours of csgo with no problems (without MSI Afterburner running). Now I've also RMA'd my PSU but I think with coolermaster you have to send it in first so I will probably test my system to its full capacity this week before I decide to send it back or not.
I will run some heavier games such as BF4, DayZ and others this week to insure the problem is fixed, but as I've mentioned before, are there any programs I can run instead of having to play some of these games for several hours to try and reproduce the problems I was having before? I had 4 successful passes with memtest so if these issues reoccur it most certainly has to be the PSU or motherboard, right?
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 02:51:35
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You can run 3DMark or Unigine Valley on looped demo mode until you stop it. You can let it run for as long as you like, but at least as long as a typical gaming session, so... like 18 hours should be good.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 03:05:04
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Thank you. But 18 hours? Wow. I was thinking like 5 hours... how do you figure 18 hours is a typical gaming session? haha
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 07:07:43
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Thank you. But 18 hours? Wow. I was thinking like 5 hours... how do you figure 18 hours is a typical gaming session? haha
A 24-hour burn-in is a good test for stability, but 5-6 hours would be fine. 18 hours was my best (or worst) Action Quake 2 game time session. Heck, you can easily burn 10 hours in WoW sometimes. 
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 12:37:30
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Okay, thank you! Also, one last thing... I noticed this yesterday and again this afternoon. Upon resuming my PC from 'sleep mode' I get a generic windows message at the bottom right of my taskbar stating something among the lines of windows needing to change the color scheme to improve system performance. I've never had this problem in the past and it only seems to show up after putting my computer to sleep - manually or after the 2-3 hour standby preset. Any ideas there? Could it be my PSU causing that message? I've already installed the new GPU and had 4 successful passes in memtest. Thank you for your time.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/20 15:02:45
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Could it be my PSU causing that message?
Nope.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/24 22:36:42
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Well guys, I haven't had any more issues so I think it's pretty same to assume the GPU was starting to fail. I also haven't noticed any more 'windows slow performance' messages in my taskbar - whether I had my computer running for 10+ hours or resumed from sleep mode (that's where the message tended to appear most). But yeah, everything looks good as of the last few days. I'm going to contact coolermaster and see if I can keep my PSU registered with them but cancel the RMA but still have the option to RMA it thru their 2018 warranty date. Anyhow, thanks for the help guys - especially you Sajin. If you ever gamble sports, I welcome you to be one of my affiliates by clicking my bet slip link and creating an account. If you do, I will fund your account with some bitcoin so you can start making some bets. Also, very nice rig man! Cheers. https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/72f25d9RFJqUmpNNGx2ZXhvR0lpMTJXeHJoZz09/r/34948/
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/24 22:48:30
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Good to hear that it's working for you now. You should be able to cancel the RMA request without affecting the warranty on your PSU, at least that's how it works with us. I don't know the details of their warranty, however. As for 18-hour gaming sessions, it seems that some guy at Cracked did a 16-hour Alien Isolation session. Brutal.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/10/24 22:54:00
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My cutoff is like 4 hours at a time.. lol. I couldn't imagine gaming for 18 hours! I've heard good things about Alien Isolation.. finally a good Alien game! Last good Alien game I played was on super nintendo! haha
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 13:11:40
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Well this isn't good. After an easy 3 weeks of flawless gaming and no problems whatsoever.. CSGO freezes ingame with blue pixelated boxes on my screen. Wasn't as nearly as bad as the past/prior to my replacement GPU. Then the monitor goes black and starts flashing a few seconds thereafter so I proceed to ctrl alt delete till computer restarts. As my PC is loading the screen is still pixelated with blue boxes then all of a sudden everything looks fine when I get to the windows login screen. What is going on here?! Ughh. I don't believe it's my memory as I had 3 successful passes with it prior to ever replacing the GPU. Has my RMA card failed already after like 60-100 hours of game play or could it be my PSU? Or something else? This is so frustrating.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 14:44:31
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Sounds like the GPU has went belly up again.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 14:54:02
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Unbelievable. What is with these EVGA 700 series cards? I'm sure other series have problems too but I've seen the post complaints about the 700 series.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 19:17:04
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That's usually symptoms when card start to die, she will become unstable on one clock, but will work on lower, than you will need to increase voltage and for lower clock, that will follow different problems as lower score in benchmarks, lag in games, fps drops, different BSOD, crashes, driver stop working, freezing, sound loops example as character in game fast repeat same word and continue to talk, different symptoms for different dying card. Windows Index of card will drop seriously without reason. Card start to die completely but time from RMA is immediately when you need little voltage for fabric clock. Unstable card is easy to recognize. You don't need to OC, card must pass all tests 3DMark or can be unstable in one software, if she is unstable in two that's almost immediately problematic hardware. You can leave any 3DMark test over night and fan speed on 100% and open side panel to avoid overheating and she must work in the morning same as Processor work Prime95 on Turbo settings. For stable card that's easy job.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 19:22:28
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Yes... it just sucks this is already happening with the RMA card and I've put 100 hours of gaming on it at most. I have never manually overclocked anything even though this card is 'overlocked' And what do you mean 'Card start to die completely but time from RMA is immediately when you need little voltage for fabric clock?' I am confused as to what you mean by this last sentence. Am I needed to RMA this card again? I don't see the point because chances are the 2nd RMA card will just fault.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 19:31:46
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Immediately if you need to fix something except fan speed card is for RMA. Why someone who buy overclocked card because don't want lose time to overclock in Afterburner should lose time with downlock or increasing voltage for fabric speed. No single reason. He payed 50-100-150$ more to avoid such things. How someone can even think on OC if she can leave Firestrike overnight on 65C. I don't believe in stories ... Some people, that model not work good over 70C... How is that possible, from chip side that is lie. Only if manufacturer install some parts who become bad if temps pass 70C example, but that should be warn. Any part on graphic card have specification 105C min. Except chip can work up to 90C if manufacturer didn't limited with driver. For VRM it's same 60 and 100C, under microscope parts will not show any kind of damage or anything under 105C maybe even 120C. 60C, 70C, 80C are non sense. GK110 have first limitation on 82C only because driver and BIOS, nothing else. That mean if you provide under 80C card must work 24h test without fps drops and throttling or she is fault.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 19:42:29
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I think I understand what you're trying to say. So I guess I need to RMA this 2nd card for yet another RMA card. This is so dumb. This next RMA is just going to fail as well.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/10 19:56:08
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I know. That's bad thing, because they shouldn't send damaged fixed cards. They could send used cards as RMA, not new but not fixed cards. Special overclocked models. That's first rule and before 5-10 years when some card die and when people backed their cards, if you revive card, don't OC on any cost and try to use only in specific situation and prepare money for new. And if you first time get bad hardware for your money they should do everything to second time fix that, not to send you damage fixed model. And it's not problematic whole series 700, people enjoy normal with GK110. And what can be fixed, usually is that chip not capable to full fill specification or fault video memory. People in service sometimes know to recognize when artifacts are because chip and OC and when more chance is fault video memory or some problem with some of memory chip.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/11 20:30:32
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Wow. So for the first time EVER I just got the blue pixel square boxes on my desktop (not in-game) while having espn, youtube, twitch and few other tabs open. This occurred for about 10 seconds then my screen went black for about 10 seconds and then I got a message in my task-bar stating the display driver had recovered. I guess I'm calling EVGA tomorrow morning and will see about getting yet another damn GPU. This is beyond ridiculous!
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/11 23:36:40
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You will get normal working card and that's it.
For me is even better if they check card before send as RMA than fabric sealed.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/11 23:43:57
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According to EVGA Customer/Technical Support... they check all refurbished RMA cards prior to sending out to guarantee they are functionally working replacement cards. This RMA card didn't last but 100 hours of system use, ingame and not. I sure hope EVGA will send me another card but again, i'm afraid it will just eventually fail. I'll ultimately just have to spend 300-500 USD for another brand new GPU and then pray that doesn't fail on me anytime soon.. or ever.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/12 00:11:25
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According to EVGA Customer/Technical Support... they check all refurbished RMA cards prior to sending out to guarantee they are functionally working replacement cards. This RMA card didn't last but 100 hours of system use, ingame and not. I sure hope EVGA will send me another card but again, i'm afraid it will just eventually fail. I'll ultimately just have to spend 300-500 USD for another brand new GPU and then pray that doesn't fail on me anytime soon.. or ever.
It's good if they really test that. Don't think about that, maybe they will even send you new only unboxed, tested and confirmed that work and registered on your name. For me that's best possible option. No better than that.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/12 09:07:28
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okay well I have another replacement card on the way. This time I'm going to use the other PCI slot for the card and IF it starts to fail then I'll know my PSU could quite possibly be the problem instead (or this second RMA card). EVGA did confirm my original card I sent them failed.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/12 11:45:03
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Okay - this has gotten REALLY bad. Loading up the computer and even running idle in windows is just showing tons of blue lines everywhere. It also automatically reset my resolution to the lowest dimensions. Anyhow, another RMA is on the way. If that fails as well, do you think they'll send me a brand new card instead? The tech support said if this 2nd RMA card fails (or similar problems) then I should use another PCI slot (Which I have) and also RMA my PSU.
Any other input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your time.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/13 19:17:17
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I'm waiting a few days for the 2nd RMA card and temporarily using another graphic card (750ti). I was wondering if there are any applications that will stress my graphic card/system?? I would rather run something for several hours (or however long) to make sure this card evga is sending me lives up to expectations.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/13 20:06:10
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I'm waiting a few days for the 2nd RMA card and temporarily using another graphic card (750ti). I was wondering if there are any applications that will stress my graphic card/system?? I would rather run something for several hours (or however long) to make sure this card evga is sending me lives up to expectations.
Running Unigine Valley 1.0 or Unigine Heaven 4.0 at max settings for a few hours should be sufficient.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/13 20:24:02
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Valley and heaven are very good indicators of gpu stability, but I think certain games are very sensitive to unstable cards. For example, I know borderlands 2 would always produce driver crashes within a minute or two if the gpu had an unstable clock.
The issue I have is that a refurbished card may run valley/heaven fine for a couple hours straight, but just start crashing a week later. Refurbished cards inherently carry the stigma of being faulty and then fixed, so I worry that the original problem with the card may emerge again or was never completely resolved. Several hours/days of testing to find if the fault lies with the gpu or another piece of hardware just to to possibly repeat the process again with a new refurbished card is very discouraging. While evga customer service and tech support is absolutely top notch (the 24 hour phone support is greatly appreciated), I find the entire process of rma, packing, shipping, testing, etc. just draining after the first time. That is also why as inefficient and ridiculous as it may be, I have often considered purchasing a newer model card just to avoid using or testing a card returned from rma.
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Re: 780 card artifacting and machine check exception BSOD
2014/11/19 18:08:54
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Thanks for the input, fellas. I just installed the 2nd RMA card (780 GTX SC) so I will see if it will hold up over the next two or so weeks. If this card fails, I'm just going to use my 750ti I bought the other day (Have till Jan. 15 to return it) and HOPE evga will send me a brand new card and NOT a THIRD RMA.
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