klown07
Does that 4 phase and worse circuitry quality, and lower voltage limit also apply to the GTX 980 reference?

feelsbadman
I have been reading all the threads and forums about this heat sink debacle and now instead of being excited at the prospect of this amazing card I'm dreading having to RMA it back for a refund as well as being out almost $30 for overnight shipping.
 
The below quote from another site really has me upset since I was hoping to overclock this card even a little bit more when I get it.
 
I'm not sure what I'm trying to do with this post , maybe reassurance. I dunno, I really need an excuse at this point to open up the package and keep this card instead of sending it back. I have owned an EVGA GTX 680 for the last several years and have not had a problem ever and the cards OC's like a champ so I was looking for EVGA in my mind before I read a single review because I never imagined I would have to deal with anything like this from them, and blindly purchased an EVGA GTX 970 since it was "In Stock".
 
"To paraphrase eVGA's statement...

"We cheaped out on the design by not -properly doing it for the new cards because we knew it would still manage to cool OK for stock clocks thanks to the new NVidia chip's low TDP. We have provided much less cooling capability as a result by wasting part of the sink while competitors capitalized on this for better cooling at lower RPM speeds on the fans, resulting in better overclocks and lower noise levels at equal cooling performance. It's OK though, you can up the fan speed for additional noise, anyway, but don't pay attention to our much lower voltage limit than the competing cards, or the worse voltage circuitry quality and low 4 phase count vs. everyone else's 6.""

Talk about a cop-out... I'm normally a huge eVGA backer but they dropped the ball on this and don't really say anything in there to refute it, just try to pretend it's OK anyway. I even ordered two of their 970's, one came in defective, and have decided to just return both outright due to this bumble. And this is coming from someone who has owned their cards since the 7900 GT days and still has an 8800 GT KO of theirs hanging out on his shelf , with many more over the years since.

clo007

feelsbadman
I have been reading all the threads and forums about this heat sink debacle and now instead of being excited at the prospect of this amazing card I'm dreading having to RMA it back for a refund as well as being out almost $30 for overnight shipping.
 
The below quote from another site really has me upset since I was hoping to overclock this card even a little bit more when I get it.
 
I'm not sure what I'm trying to do with this post , maybe reassurance. I dunno, I really need an excuse at this point to open up the package and keep this card instead of sending it back. I have owned an EVGA GTX 680 for the last several years and have not had a problem ever and the cards OC's like a champ so I was looking for EVGA in my mind before I read a single review because I never imagined I would have to deal with anything like this from them, and blindly purchased an EVGA GTX 970 since it was "In Stock".
 
"To paraphrase eVGA's statement...

"We cheaped out on the design by not -properly doing it for the new cards because we knew it would still manage to cool OK for stock clocks thanks to the new NVidia chip's low TDP. We have provided much less cooling capability as a result by wasting part of the sink while competitors capitalized on this for better cooling at lower RPM speeds on the fans, resulting in better overclocks and lower noise levels at equal cooling performance. It's OK though, you can up the fan speed for additional noise, anyway, but don't pay attention to our much lower voltage limit than the competing cards, or the worse voltage circuitry quality and low 4 phase count vs. everyone else's 6.""

Talk about a cop-out... I'm normally a huge eVGA backer but they dropped the ball on this and don't really say anything in there to refute it, just try to pretend it's OK anyway. I even ordered two of their 970's, one came in defective, and have decided to just return both outright due to this bumble. And this is coming from someone who has owned their cards since the 7900 GT days and still has an 8800 GT KO of theirs hanging out on his shelf , with many more over the years since.

So you created an account to come over here and post your dribble that you did on OCN forums?

feelsbadman

clo007

feelsbadman
I have been reading all the threads and forums about this heat sink debacle and now instead of being excited at the prospect of this amazing card I'm dreading having to RMA it back for a refund as well as being out almost $30 for overnight shipping.
 
The below quote from another site really has me upset since I was hoping to overclock this card even a little bit more when I get it.
 
I'm not sure what I'm trying to do with this post , maybe reassurance. I dunno, I really need an excuse at this point to open up the package and keep this card instead of sending it back. I have owned an EVGA GTX 680 for the last several years and have not had a problem ever and the cards OC's like a champ so I was looking for EVGA in my mind before I read a single review because I never imagined I would have to deal with anything like this from them, and blindly purchased an EVGA GTX 970 since it was "In Stock".
 
"To paraphrase eVGA's statement...

"We cheaped out on the design by not -properly doing it for the new cards because we knew it would still manage to cool OK for stock clocks thanks to the new NVidia chip's low TDP. We have provided much less cooling capability as a result by wasting part of the sink while competitors capitalized on this for better cooling at lower RPM speeds on the fans, resulting in better overclocks and lower noise levels at equal cooling performance. It's OK though, you can up the fan speed for additional noise, anyway, but don't pay attention to our much lower voltage limit than the competing cards, or the worse voltage circuitry quality and low 4 phase count vs. everyone else's 6.""

Talk about a cop-out... I'm normally a huge eVGA backer but they dropped the ball on this and don't really say anything in there to refute it, just try to pretend it's OK anyway. I even ordered two of their 970's, one came in defective, and have decided to just return both outright due to this bumble. And this is coming from someone who has owned their cards since the 7900 GT days and still has an 8800 GT KO of theirs hanging out on his shelf , with many more over the years since.

So you created an account to come over here and post your dribble that you did on OCN forums?

I didn't post that, but it struck a chord with me. I'm a concerned paying customer and even though it's not a $550 purchase I'm dismayed that maybe the EVGA GTX 680 was only good because it was a reference design..so buy EVGA for reference cards because of their warranty and anything else avoid like the plague. Which I guess if you have to spend $500 every time a new card comes out to be in the cool kid's club and everything is sunshine and roses that's not going to happen very often..sorry.
 
I was hoping someone would be able to counter these points and maybe tell me I'm over reacting so I can stop worrying about this purchase, your not really helping here sir.

hiz father
So I shouldn't be worried if I ordered a reference 980 right? 

ganzosrevenge
Is the 970 FTW stuck with the same issue?  Or just 970 SC?

blacksapphire08
Thank you Stephen for being one of the few posting using common sense. Most of these people are refusing to buy a product based on heresay. I bought an EVGA GTX 970 SC (yes with ACX 1.0) and my temps/noise level do not match up with what people are saying.
 
Idle temp: 29*C
Load temp playing Diablo 3: 41*C
Load temp playing Metro Last Light 70*C
 
I did not even adjust the fan settings either and its much quiter than my GTX 570 that it replaced. Stop the witch hunt and go buy someone other brand if it bothers you that much.

Stephenk291
Defect by definition means it's inferior which it very well might be compared to other cooler designs, but I don't think people are using defect in that sense. To be people seem to be throwing around defect to mean that this design is defective in that it wasn't done by design. If this design was approved by Nvidia which EVGA said it was, they clearly must have not seen any issues with it.   Until people start throwing up real numbers from their cards this entire thread is a bunch of hearsay and conjecture which can very well mislead people or make them return a product (resulting in a $$ loss) due to a lack of true information.
 
and thank you blacksapphire for posting some actual results. If you could even maybe include some Screenshots for true justification.  People really need to get off this bandwagon until they try it themselves.