Hi! I bought 2 evga titan blacks 2 months ago, i was happy about the performance until 980 got released.. I could have bought almost 4 980s for the price i paid for the titans. I feel kind of sad now and it feels like i made a really bad deal. Are there anything at all that are better about titan than 980 except from the vram?

Sajin
At least you spent your money on a fully unlocked high-end GPU. The 980 is nothing but a gimped low-end GPU sold as a high-end GPU. For games the 980 is only about 10-13% faster than 780 Ti/Titan Black. Checkout this review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html (Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti.) 
 
                       

If it beats the current high end by a significant margin, apparently overclocks like a beast, and uses less power, how is it a 'gimped low-end GPU'.

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At least you spent your money on a fully unlocked high-end GPU. The 980 is nothing but a gimped low-end GPU sold as a high-end GPU. For games the 980 is only about 10-13% faster than 780 Ti/Titan Black. Checkout this review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html (Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti.) 
 
                       

If it beats the current high end by a significant margin, apparently overclocks like a beast, and uses less power, how is it a 'gimped low-end GPU'.

It may do all those things but it still doesn't change the fact that it's a GM204 GPU. AKA low end Maxwell.

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At least you spent your money on a fully unlocked high-end GPU. The 980 is nothing but a gimped low-end GPU sold as a high-end GPU. For games the 980 is only about 10-13% faster than 780 Ti/Titan Black. Checkout this review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html (Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti.) 
 
                       

If it beats the current high end by a significant margin, apparently overclocks like a beast, and uses less power, how is it a 'gimped low-end GPU'.

It may do all those things but it still doesn't change the fact that it's a GM204 GPU. AKA low end Maxwell.

What does 'the fact it's a GM204 GPU' mean? What is the high end Maxwell? For that matter, what is the mid-range Maxwell?
I don't get your point, in calling it 'low end gimped'.

Sajin

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At least you spent your money on a fully unlocked high-end GPU. The 980 is nothing but a gimped low-end GPU sold as a high-end GPU. For games the 980 is only about 10-13% faster than 780 Ti/Titan Black. Checkout this review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html (Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti.) 
 
                       

If it beats the current high end by a significant margin, apparently overclocks like a beast, and uses less power, how is it a 'gimped low-end GPU'.

It may do all those things but it still doesn't change the fact that it's a GM204 GPU. AKA low end Maxwell.

What does 'the fact it's a GM204 GPU' mean? What is the high end Maxwell? For that matter, what is the mid-range Maxwell?
I don't get your point, in calling it 'low end gimped'.

GM204 is NVIDIA's low end Maxwell chip. GM206 is mid-range Maxwell. GM210 is high-end Maxwell fully unlocked. When I say "gimped" I mean handicapped. e.g. GM204 has a lower memory BUS (256-bit), Lower VRAM & Less CUDA cores, etc, than GM210 will have.
 
A good example would be GTX 680 (GK104) to GTX TITAN Black (GK110 fully unclocked). GK104 is low end Kepler (gimped), GK110 is high-end Kepler which is fully unlocked and not gimped. 

Er no, GM204 is the top end right now, the GM206 is the mid range.  Later on they may release a rumored GM200 which will be the powerhouse. You're thinking Nvidia goes incrementally number wise with increasing performance. Not usually with the code numbers. Secondarily, the GK104 and the GK110 are completely different die. The GK104 isn't a 'gimped' version of the GK110. Again, I fail to see the point.

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At least you spent your money on a fully unlocked high-end GPU. The 980 is nothing but a gimped low-end GPU sold as a high-end GPU. For games the 980 is only about 10-13% faster than 780 Ti/Titan Black. Checkout this review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html (Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti.) 
 
                       

If it beats the current high end by a significant margin, apparently overclocks like a beast, and uses less power, how is it a 'gimped low-end GPU'.

It may do all those things but it still doesn't change the fact that it's a GM204 GPU. AKA low end Maxwell.

What does 'the fact it's a GM204 GPU' mean? What is the high end Maxwell? For that matter, what is the mid-range Maxwell?
I don't get your point, in calling it 'low end gimped'.

GM204 is NVIDIA's low end Maxwell chip. GM206 is mid-range Maxwell. GM210 is high-end Maxwell fully unlocked. When I say "gimped" I mean handicapped. e.g. GM204 has a lower memory BUS (256-bit), Lower VRAM & Less CUDA cores, etc, than GM210 will have.
 
A good example would be GTX 680 (GK104) to GTX TITAN Black (GK110 fully unclocked). GK104 is low end Kepler (gimped), GK110 is high-end Kepler which is fully unlocked and not gimped. 

Secondarily, the GK104 and the GK110 are completely different die. The GK104 isn't a 'gimped' version of the GK110. Again, I fail to see the point.

GK104 & GK110 are both Kepler...

Sajin
GM204 is top end now. True, but it's really not the top end Maxwell, GM200/GM210 is.

Okay, so your point is the tech advances and newer more capable products come out using the same/similar architecture. Doesn't seem like much of a revelation, as it is pretty much standard until the next architecture comes out for just about every electronics product.

1. If you choose not to read rumors, which we knew of Maxwell's high-end eventually coming for 6 months, it isn't like you were mislead.  These companies are not obligated to share their plans with us because it affects their bottomline if we postpone purchases; customers aren't always first (in the case of new debuts).  
2. Is it really such a hassle to sell your pair of Titans right now?   Maybe you'll get 70-80% back and get three GTX980's and use the cash for something else, or save up for a fourth.  But note: By the time you wait to get a forth, another high-end may come and then you'll be sad again.

 
I suggest that with every upgrade you cease being an enthusiast reading into technology for a few months, otherwise you will feel insecure about your elite hardware succeeded much sooner than you like.  Focus on why you upgraded and what you upgraded from.  If your focus was to have the best, well that is just the stupidest goal in the world because it isn't like time stops or slows long enough for you to feel better.  
 
Does that mean you can't future-proof?  No, future-proofing requires you to not need the best but you get it anyway, eventually needing the capability in the future as software of the future use more resources.  But most high-end gamers and enthusiasts want that capability now, which defeats the purpose of future-proof, thus they see it as a myth.  Just as I call "best" a myth, but again, if you don't need it and get it anyway, while it may be overkill in short-term, it will last you a long time.
 
The key to endurance is to get more than you need and NOT get used to it.

i upgraded from 2 gtx 680 4gb. When i purchased the titans i was sure than my old cards where dead, but i managed to get them working again later.
I guess i have the option to sell them again, but maybe i will live longer on the titans because of the 6gb ram? And i would like to learn photoshop, even though i know nothing now i might have use of the titans for it in the future i suppose.
 
And yes you guys are right, there is always something new on the horizon, i suppose i can use my titans for at least another 3 years or so.