I think Cost will really make a deference, I have high hopes that NVIDIA reduces the cost of their Cards by the time the 980 is released.

Remember that AMD GPU's seem to make Better Folding GPUs.
I will look close only because they are Water Cooled, and for Folding.

My guess is they are hot and want to keep noise down so they want to make watercooled hybred coolers
this does not stop end vendors from putting their own cooling systems on
 
if they stay on 28nm and want to keep up the word is they have to run them hotter and use up more power
look at current gen - AMD uses more power/wattage - by a significant margin for a marginal performance gain over NVidia
 
this is where Nvidia wins - low power high performance - in Server market the cost could be millions per day in power costs
 

Xavier Zepherious
My guess is they are hot and want to keep noise down so they want to make watercooled hybred coolers
this does not stop end vendors from putting their own cooling systems on
 
if they stay on 28nm and want to keep up the word is they have to run them hotter and use up more power
look at current gen - AMD uses more power/wattage - by a significant margin for a marginal performance gain over NVidia
 
this is where Nvidia wins - low power high performance - in Server market the cost could be millions per day in power costs
 

You are correct, amd has no crazy power efficency designs coming out soon. They were planning on the die shrink giving them the power savings.
 
Still amazes me how the tables turn in such a short time. I love that amd put out the commercial about how fermi was so hot and then nvidia did the same thing the next time around to amd.
 
Still with amd running hot tho, I'll keep my business with the company thats not purposely holding back to artificially increase prices. Im waiting on pirate islands before I talk about upgrading from my 290x.

Bruno747

Xavier Zepherious
My guess is they are hot and want to keep noise down so they want to make watercooled hybred coolers
this does not stop end vendors from putting their own cooling systems on
 
if they stay on 28nm and want to keep up the word is they have to run them hotter and use up more power
look at current gen - AMD uses more power/wattage - by a significant margin for a marginal performance gain over NVidia
 
this is where Nvidia wins - low power high performance - in Server market the cost could be millions per day in power costs
 

You are correct, amd has no crazy power efficency designs coming out soon. They were planning on the die shrink giving them the power savings.
 
Still amazes me how the tables turn in such a short time. I love that amd put out the commercial about how fermi was so hot and then nvidia did the same thing the next time around to amd.
 
Still with amd running hot tho, I'll keep my business with the company thats not purposely holding back to artificially increase prices. Im waiting on pirate islands before I talk about upgrading from my 290x.

with gtx970 and gtx980 I feel as though they realize that noone would buy them at full price. So they already released them with prices (330 vs 400 and 550 vs 600+) as though a 980ti or 1080 was out.

After living in asia and realizing the future of electricity prices, the red team is dead until they improve their performance per watt. Maxwell is a god send for me, but I will be waiting for a ti or next generation of it.