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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/11 18:59:24 (permalink)
I'm waiting for the iPhone 9 super duper edition. 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/11 19:21:51 (permalink)
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I'm waiting for the iPhone 9 super duper edition. 

...not sure where you are going with this unless you posted in the wrong thread...


 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/11 19:57:38 (permalink)
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I'm waiting for the iPhone 9 super duper edition. 

...not sure where you are going with this unless you posted in the wrong thread...


Left field, he is going out to far left field.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/11 20:03:01 (permalink)
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I'm waiting for the iPhone 9 super duper edition. 

...not sure where you are going with this unless you posted in the wrong thread...

Left field, he is going out to far left field.

I think he left the field and is past the parking lot by now.


 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/11 22:24:22 (permalink)
I don't understand how they are matching up the 970 between a 780 and 780Ti when it only has 1664 cores. Seems more like a replacement to the 680/770 as those cards come closer spec wise, and should present 15%+ in performance. Not so sure about it competing with a GK110 though.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/12 12:59:14 (permalink)
These guys seem a little uninformed: http://www.vcpost.com/art...-gigabyte-official.htm
 
This is better: http://www.maximumpc.com/leaked_press_photo_geforce_gtx_970_suggests_nvidia_skipping_800_series
EVGA needs to release a pic soon.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/12 18:01:51 (permalink)
These two cites say the 980 will be 30% faster than 780Ti. hope its true....
 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/13 11:10:15 (permalink)
The 980 isn't the replacement to the 780 Ti. People need to be comparing the 780 to the 980.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/13 11:49:50 (permalink)
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The 980 isn't the replacement to the 780 Ti. People need to be comparing the 780 to the 980.


Until they release the heavy hitter, like the 980ti, people will continue to pit the best available against the best coming out. Then when better arrives, they will compare the latest. 780ti to 980 then 980 to 980ti. Then, and only then since we are not even guaranteed a 980ti at all, will the Ti's be compared against each other.

You don't see people saying, "should I get a 680 or 780 after the 780ti. Was announced. It went 770 against 780, 780 winning by a long shot as it is -GK110 instead of 104. Now, it is best vs best in GK110-a1 vs GK110-b1.

Why wouldn't people compare best vs best right off the bat? There was no 680ti, was there?

That is what people need to understand first and foremost.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/13 20:19:19 (permalink)
If you look at the specs, it does have all cores enabled, so no TI, maybe one with more vram, but it looks like this will be the TI and the Titan Black all over again. It will have the direct compute processing cores stripped out of it. Then there will be a card like the Titan now that will be the whole chip nothing stripped at a hefty price tag.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/13 21:18:23 (permalink)
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If you look at the specs, it does have all cores enabled, so no TI, maybe one with more vram, but it looks like this will be the TI and the Titan Black all over again. It will have the direct compute processing cores stripped out of it. Then there will be a card like the Titan now that will be the whole chip nothing stripped at a hefty price tag.


980ti could be a 20nm design for maxwell. Along with upgraded vram maybe?
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 00:31:16 (permalink)
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We can point the finger at consoles for that.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 01:13:16 (permalink)
I don't like because some games are exclusive for different consoles...
All games should be available for PC as main gaming platform and everything should start from that.
For us everything, for them something.  
Because I really, really miss some games available only on consoles but I would never invest money in console. 

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 05:06:02 (permalink)
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I don't like because some games are exclusive for different consoles...
All games should be available for PC as main gaming platform and everything should start from that.
For us everything, for them something.  
Because I really, really miss some games available only on consoles but I would never invest money in console. 


No.
 
Screw that garbage. That would lead to a watering down of things like Nintendo games since they would have to design for things they aren't used to.


 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 13:13:51 (permalink)
I have my doubts about this rumor (performance)...but will be looking forward to when the NDA lifts and we see the verified numbers.  :) 





 
 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 13:48:46 (permalink)
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I have my doubts about this rumor (performance)...but will be looking forward to when the NDA lifts and we see the verified numbers.  :) 




Speaking off that, this may be the first time that I actually am a first day/week adopter of new hard ware. So when can we expect actual reviews from reliable sources for this card to be released, do they normally show up the same day the card hits the market? Never paid attention because I never had money to upgrade around release day, but now I happen to and this gtx 470 needs to be replaced, the 1.2gig vram is killing me. Only have $500 to spend and eather hoping the gtx 980 will be around that or cause current prices to drop at least.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 15:42:33 (permalink)
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I have my doubts about this rumor (performance)...but will be looking forward to when the NDA lifts and we see the verified numbers.  :) 




Speaking off that, this may be the first time that I actually am a first day/week adopter of new hard ware. So when can we expect actual reviews from reliable sources for this card to be released, do they normally show up the same day the card hits the market? Never paid attention because I never had money to upgrade around release day, but now I happen to and this gtx 470 needs to be replaced, the 1.2gig vram is killing me. Only have $500 to spend and eather hoping the gtx 980 will be around that or cause current prices to drop at least.




Haha! We are literally in the same boat. Recently graduated college and have a nice job. Can afford to upgrade this GTX 470 once these new cards drop.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 16:06:31 (permalink)
Same here lol. I'm hoping that a Classified version with double VRAM is available at launch.


 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 16:12:52 (permalink)
Wish it was more but id be happy to upgrade from my 670's. I have 3 way sli now and i want to go back to 2 way. If i can grab a 780ti for cheap second hand though i might get two of them instead.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 16:34:58 (permalink)
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Maxwell is gonna be all about Power Saving, I don't expect performance to go up too much this generation.
 
Power Saving means Cooler Temps as well, and I will gladly upgrade just for those 2 things.
 
I'm already impressed with the 750 TI cards, 60w at load and only 69c temp at load (at least thats what mine runs at), thats impressive.


Exactly!!  It's all about lowerwattage, because that's what brings out the best Overclocks....  *drool*  I think these cards will Overclock like beasts.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 16:44:33 (permalink)
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Exactly!!  It's all about lowerwattage, because that's what brings out the best Overclocks....  *drool*  I think these cards will Overclock like beasts.



See, I like to see things that overclock well, but if they dumb it down too much, then you are just getting numbers instead of performance.. I would love to see them beat out the current cards by 10% Prior to any overclock, and then be able to extend well past the clocks that the current gen can reach. 
 
The G3258 Overclocks like a beast... but it is still only two cores, and doesn't perform on the same level as the bigger models.  I would like to see them be able to up the performance while making it more efficient at the same time.  
 
Hopefully I am not repeating someone, or causing any strife.  They have the R&D and the Definitely have the technology to accomplish exponential gains while making the architecture more efficient.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 21:07:29 (permalink)
Well... I may be in the minority with this one... But that reduction in wattage makes me dream of building a few GPU farms... It would be a significant reduction in the electric bill and a nice jump in overall performance compaired to the other GPU's I have used...
 
As for gaming... I purchased the 780 Classified specifically, to allow me to skip this round... It purrrrrrs along in tripple screen...

 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/14 21:29:13 (permalink)
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Well... I may be in the minority with this one... But that reduction in wattage makes me dream of building a few GPU farms... It would be a significant reduction in the electric bill and a nice jump in overall performance compaired to the other GPU's I have used...
 
As for gaming... I purchased the 780 Classified specifically, to allow me to skip this round... It purrrrrrs along in tripple screen...


Yep thats the same reason the 750 TI cards are popular for Crytocurrency mining as well, mega low power usage

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 00:50:51 (permalink)
this is what happens when youre rolling out video cards out too quick not worrying about performance and it makes everyone's card out dated.



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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 16:35:49 (permalink)
I would feel robbed as an 780Ti owner (Titan also).. it reminds me of the 260/280GTX days when Nvidia refunded some money for over charge of performance..then the 8800GTX >  Cheaper 8800gt as this is one reason i switched camps long ago as many buy into a card like the 8800GTX and it was the best thing since slice bread .. then they roll out the 8800GT and under cut there own customers ..


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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 16:49:35 (permalink)
Yeah how dare they bring something better for less money.... the horror!!!
 
By the same logic we should pay billions of $ to get other PC parts just because a PC was $5k in the '80s.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 17:02:55 (permalink)
Really, by that logic we should be paying more for every card that is faster than the last. Do you like paying 1K for a video card? I for one am happy if the $500 rumor is true. Also, it's been 10 months since the 780ti and only a 10% increase; how is that robbing them? Let alone it's been a year and four months since the 780, we are due for a new card like usual.
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 18:14:32 (permalink)
Its ok, he is Australian.

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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/15 21:20:05 (permalink)
I'm rather curious about folding performance. I don't know extrapolating from GTX750Ti makes sense. 980 has 3.2 times the cores as 750Ti. Even if it improves the TPF to one third, that'd be huge. Comperatively, I think GTX780Ti is about 2-2.5 times better TPF than 750Ti.
 
Plus, don't forget about the power efficiency...
 
Can't wait to see :)
 
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Re: GTX 980 only 10% faster than 780 TI. 2014/09/16 01:54:04 (permalink)
I expect very nice temps on EVGA GTX980 reference Superclocked version, excellent option who want to build SLI with EVGA 850G2.
Performance will be little better I think than R9-295X because higher clock, PhysX, G-Sync and gaming on 2560x1440 with AA can start.
Off course maybe something news about DX12 show up.

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