lehpron

Nereus
Wow Lephron, that ad hominem attack was totally uncalled for - you having a bad hair day or what? That's not like you. Hope you're feeling better now. An apology might be in order...

Just because anyone takes criticism personal or offensive doesn't mean it was done deliberately as an attack; thus not ad hominem or "troll".  Many here just need to learn humility and be humble rather than expect others to apologize for their sensitivity to criticism.  I'm not in the mood to be politically correct when it is extremely apparent that plenty feel their purchases represent a Goldilocks's Zone where spending too little or too much warrants criticism from people that think they know others better-- yet have the pretentious expectation that no one criticizes their purchase decisions.  Glass house... 
 
 
If anyone wants respect for their decisions, that only starts when enthusiasts stop acting like they know better.  But many here expect a fight by those they deem as ignorant and egotistically expect to win.  They are not being constructive when "informing" others of their views regarding buying a pair of Titan Z's or Intel integrated video to game on.   To suggest someone didn't make a smart purchase isn't taken lightly, so of course you will take their criticism towards your purchases as an attack because you willfully attacked them for their choices.  How does this cycle begin?  They can do what they like with their money, but we don't have to say anything.  While you guys can use that same logic to ask why I had to say something, I doubt you would hold your need to correct others back; no one had to react/reply to my post to begin with.   I'm not sure how anyone expects everyone to respect their decisions without respecting those of others first; to suggest others have use for something we find overpriced makes no sense because it isn't about us.  For instance, no one thinks Titan Z is priced just right for those its meant for because most of us can't afford it; so because I think this ASUS monitor is overpriced, I get to disregard what everyone here praises; according to their own logic.
 
If anyone knew me well enough, they would know that as a scientist, my objectivity is more interested in people's reaction to things than the things themselves.  My participation in this thread has nothing to do with the monitor (mentioning no interest in specs was a hint that was lost on many too preoccupied with playing victim).  I was simply throwing their own stones right back at them to expose their hypocrisy of criticizing the point for items they wouldn't get.   For the record, I'm certain smart high-end enthusiasts know I'm not talking about them when I criticize the minority that is ironically insecure taking offense to everything, thus and I see no reason to apologize because most are not offended.

Agreed.
 
I have reviewed the previous comments and I did not see an EVGA TOS violation

Much more PC response than mine, nereus.  +1
 
I don't apologize either though.  

Sorry, RJ may not see a TOS violation...  And, indeed, there may not be when the letter of the rules are squinted at in the right light.  But the more I think about your response, the more I wish to make a reply myself.  I know I already did in a much more abbreviated form - and maybe this will prove my skin is too thin to participate in an online discussion forum - but I'm going to share my full opinion anyway.  Because I want to.
 

lehpron
Why is this expensive monitor being hyped?  If the only way anyone can explain the big deal is to bring up the specs I've already seen, you have already failed; they don't speak for themselves since I don't even need the specs.  How about you guys try boycotting your favorites so that companies will lower prices to fight for your dollars then I can actually afford it someday?
 
Also, don't justifying paying so much, some of you come off as sounding like Titan Z owners.  You could get multiple smaller high-Hz displays for less cash like three ASUS 24" 1080p 144Hz display for $280, and get more total resolution area than just one PG278Q for the same price.  So much hypocrisy in here.

The demand, by definition, is the amount of consumers who are ready and willing to pay the price a vendor sets for their goods.  Given the responses in this thread and others around the net, I'd say the demand for this monitor is healthy even at this price point.  In some cases, the willingness is there, but not the ability.
 
Indeed, it seems even you have the willingness to buy, just not the ability given your use of the personal pronoun "I" in your call for boycott in order to force affordability for others.  Honestly, though, the ability for someone to act on their wants and desires is not a concern for other consumers' in their buying habits - nor should it be.  Because it is overpriced for you does not mean it is for others.
 
That's not the basis for your claims of hypocrisy, though, is it?  Given that, I must agree with you one one point:  your claims of hypocrisy were not ad hominem because they lacked an argument to support them.  Your argument didn't come until the next post.  Without the argument, your words are just an attack.  Let's look at your better-late-than-never argument anyway though...
 
 

lehpron
Just because anyone takes criticism personal or offensive doesn't mean it was done deliberately as an attack; thus not ad hominem or "troll".  Many here just need to learn humility and be humble rather than expect others to apologize for their sensitivity to criticism.  I'm not in the mood to be politically correct when it is extremely apparent that plenty feel their purchases represent a Goldilocks's Zone where spending too little or too much warrants criticism from people that think they know others better-- yet have the pretentious expectation that no one criticizes their purchase decisions.  Glass house... 
 
 
If anyone wants respect for their decisions, that only starts when enthusiasts stop acting like they know better.  But many here expect a fight by those they deem as ignorant and egotistically expect to win.  They are not being constructive when "informing" others of their views regarding buying a pair of Titan Z's or Intel integrated video to game on.   To suggest someone didn't make a smart purchase isn't taken lightly, so of course you will take their criticism towards your purchases as an attack because you willfully attacked them for their choices.  How does this cycle begin?  They can do what they like with their money, but we don't have to say anything.  While you guys can use that same logic to ask why I had to say something, I doubt you would hold your need to correct others back; no one had to react/reply to my post to begin with.   I'm not sure how anyone expects everyone to respect their decisions without respecting those of others first; to suggest others have use for something we find overpriced makes no sense because it isn't about us.  For instance, no one thinks Titan Z is priced just right for those its meant for because most of us can't afford it; so because I think this ASUS monitor is overpriced, I get to disregard what everyone here praises; according to their own logic.
 
If anyone knew me well enough, they would know that as a scientist, my objectivity is more interested in people's reaction to things than the things themselves.  My participation in this thread has nothing to do with the monitor (mentioning no interest in specs was a hint that was lost on many too preoccupied with playing victim).  I was simply throwing their own stones right back at them to expose their hypocrisy of criticizing the point for items they wouldn't get.   For the record, I'm certain smart high-end enthusiasts know I'm not talking about them when I criticize the minority that is ironically insecure taking offense to everything, thus and I see no reason to apologize because most are not offended.

 
You decided to make preemptive claims of hypocrisy based on the fact that some, at an unspecified point in the future, may criticize others over their purchase - or lack thereof - of this monitor.  Because they may lack respect for others' decisions...  And yet I've seen no such hypocritical behavior in this thread  - apart from yours, of course.  
 
Then you mentioned titan Zs as though the purchase of such cards were germane to your claims of hypocrisy in this thread about a monitor.  Granted, I've seen others criticize on that subject, or on the subject of intel/nvidia/amd in other threads - threads in which you've been actively displaying the same behavior which you say makes us hypocrites.  I've not seen any of that in this thread though - nothing worse than (paraphrasing) "the monitor you bought is nice, but it doesn't do what I want it to do, so I'm buying this one".  Again, that is, apart from your behavior.
 
Sir, this cycle you mentioned, at least in this thread, of criticism back and forth over a person's buying habits was started and perpetuated by *you*.  Even the responses that followed yours did not show your expected "hypocrisy" because the criticism was directed not at your decision to buy or not, but at the way in which you expressed your opinion.
 
And what an opinion it was.  You called people hypocrites for criticizing other's purchases (again, which had not happened yet in this thread) shortly after you criticized their intent to purchase something that you yourself are willing to buy, just not able.  I may be reaching here, but I believe that makes *you* the hypocrite.  An entitled hypocrite.  
 
In the end, RJ may not have seen a troll, but I'll call a spade a spade.  I'm still going to purchase this monitor because it does what I want it to do and it is my money to spend.  I've no problems with anyone else buying this monitor or not - in fact, if I am the only person on the planet with this monitor, it will be fine by me and the same if I'm only one of 7 billion other owners.  Somehow, I don't expect either to be the case.  Asus lost no sales due to your post - the only thing lost is what remaining respect I had for you.  And I still don't apologize.
 
 

garnetandblack
 Indeed, it seems even you have the willingness to buy, just not the ability given your use of the personal pronoun "I" in your call for boycott in order to force affordability for others.   Honestly, though, the ability for someone to act on their wants and desires is not a concern for other consumers' in their buying habits - nor should it be.  Because it is overpriced for you does not mean it is for others.

You're right, just because something is overpriced for one person does not mean it is for others (I remember saying that many times in other threads, why would I forget), so how come people in here react without as much consideration when tables are turned?  Look at how people react to my tongue-in-cheek interjection: They are thin-skinned taking offense and acting like I spit in their face because I criticized a purchase decision or intent.  It is fascinating because it is largely absent in threads about items beyond the budget of many.  In that case, many act as the criticizers and don't bother defending someone else' rights to purchase, let alone the point for the item.  To top it off, those that argue against majorities are name called.
 
 
Most of my quotes that you bolded, because I try to avoid seeing things as obvious, I don't you what was Ad Hominin or hypocritical to you.  Like I said above, just because you take something personal doesn't make it an attack on you, it just doesn't.  You have to ask, and if I say it wasn't, you have to believe it; you aren't in a position to disbelief since the only other evidence is the emotion you bring into this argument which I can't be responsible for.  
 
But because you took my statements so personally and can seem to get over yourself, you're already in that mode of convincing yourself everything I post is an attack, so anything fuels it at this point.  I'm saying this for the last time:  I wasn't being a hypocrite because I wasn't correcting or attacking anyone, I was playing Devil's Advocate trying to show how perspective changes when the tables turn, but few see it like that because they want to play victim to my insensitive commentary.  I already stated I don't need the specs, thus don't need the monitor, my posts have had nothing to so with what I can/can't afford.  I was using your logic towards something beyond your budget.

garnetandblack 
You decided to make preemptive claims of hypocrisy based on the fact that some, at an unspecified point in the future, may criticize others over their purchase - or lack thereof - of this monitor.  Because they may lack respect for others' decisions...  And yet I've seen no such hypocritical behavior in this thread  - apart from yours, of course.

Nothing in my argument was sourced or in reaction to anyone's response in this thread, nothing preemptive.  I tried to play the logic used by others on the other side of the table, I don't know if you aren't seeing it or just don't want to.  But you seem to struggle in your disgust to look for a reply that set me off, but because you can't find it in this thread, and happen to take my response personal due to your bias, I come off as an obvious troll that started the problem.  You just won't see your position on the table when turned, as if you sit in the center of a donut; and of course, the suggestion isn't taken lightly.  But that doesn't mean the perspective injection was done deliberate as an attack, that is something you and many have to get over.  I had hoped many here would be humbled rather than defensive, and am just fascinated that you guys are ironically using my own arguments to inform me of how wrong it was to criticize anyone.
 
I've been on both sides of the table, which is why I'm humbled, but I don't see why you guys can't also be while expecting others to honor the status quo to not argue against the majority.

Dont know if someone think that I'm idiot since I got this thingy today,but honestly dont care...this monitor is gorgeous.Not sure if its worth 800$,hard to judge since there is not any similar product in the market.
 
Colors are fine,and black too.Only fine since I dont have anything to compare.my last monitors where AW2310 and 2x asus VH242H and colors in PG278Q are sure far better than those things did have.
I have been mostly playing some games and testing if Gsync creates input-lag...so far only BF4(SP) had input-lag,and without Gsync than little...game still had input-lag.So Gsync has been huge success atleast for me(cant play with Vsync,makes me sick).
There are some other weird issues with Gsync and BF4.When I press esc to go in settings-menu,it updates that key press in every frame and turn in to infinite loop of go/exit menu.I quess its 1 of those only in battlefield moments again.
 
More testing tomorrow.I'm happy.

To be honest, might as well get Samsung's 4k 28" monitor. Saw it at Bestbuy for $579. Insanely good price, and ascetically pleasing to the eye. I fell in love with that screen, 4k at that size is quite amazing, no need to AA what so ever.

Joacpro
Dont know if someone think that I'm idiot since I got this thingy today,but honestly dont care...this monitor is gorgeous.Not sure if its worth 800$,hard to judge since there is not any similar product in the market.
 
Colors are fine,and black too.Only fine since I dont have anything to compare.my last monitors where AW2310 and 2x asus VH242H and colors in PG278Q are sure far better than those things did have.
I have been mostly playing some games and testing if Gsync creates input-lag...so far only BF4(SP) had input-lag,and without Gsync than little...game still had input-lag.So Gsync has been huge success atleast for me(cant play with Vsync,makes me sick).
There are some other weird issues with Gsync and BF4.When I press esc to go in settings-menu,it updates that key press in every frame and turn in to infinite loop of go/exit menu.I quess its 1 of those only in battlefield moments again.
 
More testing tomorrow.I'm happy.

Consider buying a Spyder4Pro if you want accuracy on the colors - for the price of the monitor, it may be worth it, depending on your needs of course. Gratz on the purchase though. Had I known it was coming, I probably would have waited instead of getting the PB278Q. Enjoy!

 This monitor seems that it is outstanding to say the least. But what this monitor really is, is the beginning of some outstanding monitors to come. Just like most high tech ( I remember my mother and father getting a red LED watch when they first came out for like $300-400. It was cool etc.) Wasn't really that much later that the same or better was free in a cereal box. ( perhaps an exaggeration) plastic band though.
Point being not long from now most likely a more feature rich monitor will be around for less. And tech goes on and on... 

4k @ 60hz isn't gaming optimized lol i don't care if it's got 1ms gtg.
 
2k is where it's at lads :)

i have 680's in SLI too, trying to hold out on 900 series, i think it will be a big step from the 800 series... keen to go back to single card. just the biggest fkr on the market Nvidia when its out, not talking Titan Z stupid, that card isn't very good value for money... with that type of money GTX 780 ti's in SLI sound like a much better choice. 

Joacpro, any chance you want to ship that thing over to the US?    I'll take good care of it.

I've had some complaints in this thread from several people both for and also against some of the posts here. I'm not going to point fingers at anyone right now but ask that everyone back track somewhat and get back directly on topic. Please respect other forum members in your posts and post professionally. 
 
If more complaints are received then this thread will be locked down. 

bdary

Joacpro
Dont know if someone think that I'm idiot since I got this thingy today,but honestly dont care...this monitor is gorgeous.Not sure if its worth 800$,hard to judge since there is not any similar product in the market.
 
Colors are fine,and black too.Only fine since I dont have anything to compare.my last monitors where AW2310 and 2x asus VH242H and colors in PG278Q are sure far better than those things did have.
I have been mostly playing some games and testing if Gsync creates input-lag...so far only BF4(SP) had input-lag,and without Gsync than little...game still had input-lag.So Gsync has been huge success atleast for me(cant play with Vsync,makes me sick).
There are some other weird issues with Gsync and BF4.When I press esc to go in settings-menu,it updates that key press in every frame and turn in to infinite loop of go/exit menu.I quess its 1 of those only in battlefield moments again.
 
More testing tomorrow.I'm happy.

Glad to hear that other than your glitch in BF4, you like your monitor so far...  Looks like we here in the US still have at least a month to wait.

I had no issues with Gsync in BF4 or the slew of games I play. I think this maybe his config or system.

dustingg

bdary

Joacpro
Dont know if someone think that I'm idiot since I got this thingy today,but honestly dont care...this monitor is gorgeous.Not sure if its worth 800$,hard to judge since there is not any similar product in the market.
 
Colors are fine,and black too.Only fine since I dont have anything to compare.my last monitors where AW2310 and 2x asus VH242H and colors in PG278Q are sure far better than those things did have.
I have been mostly playing some games and testing if Gsync creates input-lag...so far only BF4(SP) had input-lag,and without Gsync than little...game still had input-lag.So Gsync has been huge success atleast for me(cant play with Vsync,makes me sick).
There are some other weird issues with Gsync and BF4.When I press esc to go in settings-menu,it updates that key press in every frame and turn in to infinite loop of go/exit menu.I quess its 1 of those only in battlefield moments again.
 
More testing tomorrow.I'm happy.

Glad to hear that other than your glitch in BF4, you like your monitor so far...  Looks like we here in the US still have at least a month to wait.

I had no issues with Gsync in BF4 or the slew of games I play. I think this maybe his config or system.

Could be pre-rendered frames in CP.For some reason it was resetted to default again.

Joacpro

dustingg

bdary

Joacpro
Dont know if someone think that I'm idiot since I got this thingy today,but honestly dont care...this monitor is gorgeous.Not sure if its worth 800$,hard to judge since there is not any similar product in the market.
 
Colors are fine,and black too.Only fine since I dont have anything to compare.my last monitors where AW2310 and 2x asus VH242H and colors in PG278Q are sure far better than those things did have.
I have been mostly playing some games and testing if Gsync creates input-lag...so far only BF4(SP) had input-lag,and without Gsync than little...game still had input-lag.So Gsync has been huge success atleast for me(cant play with Vsync,makes me sick).
There are some other weird issues with Gsync and BF4.When I press esc to go in settings-menu,it updates that key press in every frame and turn in to infinite loop of go/exit menu.I quess its 1 of those only in battlefield moments again.
 
More testing tomorrow.I'm happy.

Glad to hear that other than your glitch in BF4, you like your monitor so far...  Looks like we here in the US still have at least a month to wait.

I had no issues with Gsync in BF4 or the slew of games I play. I think this maybe his config or system.

Could be pre-rendered frames in CP.For some reason it was resetted to default again.
 
 
 

 
I spoke with a Nvidia rep and Jacob several months back and confirmed "max prerendered frames" set to 3D application controlled.  Also do not turn on tipple buffering and make sure V-sync is set to Gsync.
 
also make sure in whatever game your playing in it's option settings make sure v-sync is turned off.