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2014/06/17 15:27:07 (permalink)
Thinking of buying a Z97 FTW motherboard, and wondering if I should buy a Crucial M550 M.2 chip (256 GB, $165) to boot from, or if I should just get a regular 256 GB SSD for about $120. I could also get 2 Kingston 120 GB SSDs (only $55 each on Newegg today) and do RAID 0.
 
Anybody have any experience with the M.2 chips on a desktop PC? Is it that much better than a SATA SSD? Also, I'm not really clear if all M.2 chips are in fact using the PCI-express (or NVME) technology.
 
I'm just learning all about this today. I bought a used 4770k and I'm trying to decide what to do for motherboard / SSD.
 
I have a Mushkin Chronos 120 GB on my current computer, but I am planning on using that as a VPN/TeamSpeak/file server and would just leave the OS installed on it.

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    Harvey Montana
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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/06/18 00:50:16 (permalink)
    It's a trade off i think with most motherboards. My Gigabyte boards allow for using the M.2, but you lose 2 SATA drive ports for using it. If you can get a large capacity smoking fast M.2 to load your OS and other important apps onto, then I think it might be worth it. In most cases you would still have 4 SATA drive connections to use for other drives.

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/06/18 07:19:17 (permalink)
    As far as I can tell, no SATA ports are lost when using the M2 on the Z97 FTW board. Even if they are, there are a total of 8, so no big deal.
     
    Now that I've researched it more, it seems that the best way to use the M.2 slot is to have a PCI-express based M.2 SSD, and not a SATA/AHCI M.2 SSD. Currently this field seems to be very bleeding-edge, and so I'll just reuse my Mushkin Chronos SATA III 120 GB. I'll have to suffer a mechanical drive on my P55 server for a while. Maybe in a few months I'll pick up a 256 GB that uses the NVME technology.

    It seems like there's a HD-DVD / Blu Ray battle of sorts between SATA express and the M.2 PCI-express based storage at the moment, and the Z97 has no SATA express. I personally like the M.2 solution better as the SATA express cable is ridiculous, and it is still using AHCI and not PCI-express. Well, that wasn't accurate. SATA Express also uses the PCI-express interface, it's just a different connector. Still not clear on how it all works.
     
    I'm still torn between the EVGA Z97 FTW and the ASUS Z97-PRO. I've been using EVGA boards my last two gaming builds (790i FTW and P55 SLI), and the EVGA board is pretty nice, but the ASUS seems to have a few more features (newer Realtek Audio, both M.2 and SATA-express, and an empty slot between PCI-Express x16 SLI slots). Plus, there are practically no real reviews of the Z97 FTW.
     
    I guess I can look at Z87 reviews and extrapolate, but the fact that the ASUS board has more features and good reviews makes me lean in that direction.
    post edited by Sprinx - 2014/06/18 07:52:27

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/06/18 10:43:54 (permalink)
    You can't go wrong with either board in terms of reliability. I thought about getting an M.2 also as I like the "direct drive" aspect of building it right onto the motherboard and eliminating a cable. But there wasn't a lot of info on the things back when I built a system with the option.
     

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/06/19 09:33:54 (permalink)
    I ended up going with the ASUS. I feel a little bit like I betrayed EVGA, but I promise I'll keep buying their video cards :)
     
    Just got it today, hopefully installing everything next week when I get my chip. Once the M.2 PCI-x SSD landscape is more stable, and prices are comparable with 2.5 in SSDs, I'll get one.

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/06/21 15:04:22 (permalink)
    I got an ASUS as well. I use my system for work and play, but EVGA's focus tends to be overclockers. My ASUS Z97-WS has not been a walk in the park though. The new tek gave me some fits at first but I got it ironed out. Tends to run a little hot but I installed a Cooler Master h2o system and it keeps the temps in the mid to upper 30's c with a mild overclock. Keep an eye on your PCH temps. Place a fan right close to your VRM heat sinks. I had to put a small heat sink with a fan on my VRM heat spreader to keep the temps below 40c.
     
    As far as the M.2 socket is concerned, ASUS cuts some corners. They didn't lie to me, and it is a true PCI-e socket, but as far as future expansion they have only 2 PCI-e lanes designed into their M.2 socket. So from that standpoint it's OK for now but really not much better that a plain SATA III port, and in fact you might have a bit more flexibility with a 2.5 SATA III drive. I discussed it with a ASUS rep and he basically said ASUS made some very short term (my interpretation of his words) design decisions. When I pressed him on the issue of paying top dollar for a cutting edge (future proof) mb, he basically said "blah, blah, blah., etc." and I got tired of going back and forth.
     
    Long and short - PCI-e (cards) NFGG SSD's are the future of really fast data transfer/storage. SATA III is basically dead or will be within a year. The next generation of mb's will likely have a socket that fully supports it, but I finally took a different route which I discussed here:
     
    http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2180854
     
    and
     
    http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2181378
     
    All in all I have to say I happy with my mb choice but we're sort of victims of this emerging technology.
     
    For what it's worth.
     
    Cheers
    post edited by teagueamx - 2014/06/21 15:10:04

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/07/29 04:25:30 (permalink)
    Just wanted to share my experience with this thread.
     
    I have recently built a system with the Asus Z97-A motherboard and I bought a 256GB Crucial M550 M.2 SSD.
    I have been through all of the relevant settings in the BIOS and I just can't get it to show up. Crucial replied to my customer support question and said.
    "Unfortunately we do not list our M.2 drives as being compatible with your motherboard"

     There are two types of M.2 Interfaces using the same form factor. SATA and PCIE. If it has a B & M key then it will be SATA. Asus Z97-A motherboard only supports PCIE.
    post edited by PlaceYourBetts - 2014/07/29 05:01:05
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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/07/31 11:13:45 (permalink)
    Crucial and PNY have crap for customer server, I'll never again have Crucial or a PNY products again...
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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/08/03 20:31:12 (permalink)
    This is part of the reason I decided to stick with SSD when I bought my new Z97. I wasn't too sure about M.2 and just went with SSD and my system was up and running after installing Windows 8 in less then 10 minutes. 

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/09/02 02:54:56 (permalink)
    PlaceYourBettsThere are two types of M.2 Interfaces using the same form factor. SATA and PCIE. If it has a B & M key then it will be SATA. Asus Z97-A motherboard only supports PCIE.



    Hey Buddy, thank you for the critical info regarding "types of M.2 Interfaces"
     
    I was looking at the Specs Sheet of ASUS Z97-A (USD 199) Motherboard, and it said something like this below:
     
    1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2260/2280 storage devices support (PCIE mode)
     
    Does this nomenclature (naming convention) Means:
    1.) The Asus Board has M.2 Socket which is a Gen.3type and can be used in the PCI-E Slot?
    2.) And what does a "M Key" mean (in layman terms) I am a total noob at this so please be less-harsh on me.
    3.) Also, which of these so called 'key-ing' is best (if at all there is any preference rather than a compatibility factor to it).
    4.) I am guessing that an "M-key type" M.2 SSD will go/fit only in its corresponding identical socket i.e. "M.2 SSD Socket with an M-Key" . ??
     
     
    Cheers n e-peace...
     
     
    post edited by secretagent004 - 2014/09/02 03:02:23

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    Re: M.2 ssd or SATA SSD for Z97 board 2014/09/02 03:31:56 (permalink)
    The logic of understanding the keys are here:
     
    http://www.thessdreview.c...f-ssd-standardization/

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