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mirkoj
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2014/07/25 06:13:51 (permalink)
Hello,
This is turning to be a bit longer post but please stay with me as I could really use some advice.
I have system up and running for a year now. All mostly good except some performance issue I saw as Titans are not performing as good as what I achieved testing one of cards on another system.
Not sure if it is due to MBO (p9x79-e ws vs asus maximus VII hero) or CPU (3930k vs 4770k).
Anyway I'm thinking no upgrading my current workhorse system to water cooling.
Right now there are 4 EVGA SC Titans, reference cooling design. Most of the time temps are fine (good air conditioned room) al tho fans are a bit on loud side when rendering for some time (GPU rendering) getting even up to 80 degrees.
Would love to keep cards a bit cooler but not sure if waging pros and cons of upgrading from current to watercooled all 4 of them makes sense and does gains out wage risks)
I wrote to EKWB company as they are near me and also sending components to my country so here is list they suggested to me (switching all system to WC)
 
CPU waterblock
EK-Supremacy Elite - Intel 2011 1pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-supremacy-elite-intel-2011.html
 
VGA waterblocks
EK-FC780 GTX Ti - Nickel 4pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc780-gtx-ti-nickel.html
 
Terminal
EK-FC Terminal QUAD Semi-Parallel 1pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-terminal-quad-semi-parallel.html
 
Radiator
 
EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple) 2pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/radiators-fans-accessories/radiators/120mm-series/coolstream-pe/ek-coolstream-pe-360-triple.html
 
Pump+res combo
EK-BAY RES D5 Vario (incl. pump) 1pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/reservoirs-and-acc/res-pump-combo/ek-d5/ek-bay-res-d5-vario-incl-pump.html
 
Fittings
EK-CSQ Fitting 10/13mm G1/4 - Nickel 10pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/accessories/fittings/compression-fittings/for-10-13mm-3-8-1-2-tubing/ek-csq-fitting-10-13mm-g1-4-nickel.html
 
Tube
TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex™ Advanced LRT™ 12,7 / 9,5mm - Crystal Clear (PFLEXA-12) 2m
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/accessories/tubing/tube-10mm-id/tube-primochill-primoflextm-advanced-lrttm-crystal-clear.html
 
Koolant
EK-Ekoolant UV BLUE (premix 1000mL) 3pcs
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/accessories/water-additives-coolants/ek-ekoolant-uv-blue-premix-1000ml.html
 
One of first things that some guy on local forum noticed was if 2 radiators will be enough for 4 GPUs and 1 CPU?
 
Now I plan to use this system extensively at least for another 2 years so on one hand keeping cards cool does pay off plus it would definitely be at least somewhat more silent system (getting Noctua fans on radiators, they bin proven great and pretty silent so far even at max speed they are couple times more silent then GPU fans right now).
Now First of all what do you guys thinks, is it worth of all the effort and time invested and risk if there is any of leaks as it would be my first full custom WC loop made?
Next all of this would cost me approx 800 EUR+transport and import taxes, money for which I could get another GPU maybe even two if I add a bit more, so two more 780s for rendering...
Still thinking should I go for it or not so.. please advise.
Btw not planing on any OC-ing but I do plan to keep this baby rendering for some time so...
Thanks for all inputs and sorry again for extensive wall of thanks, all inputs tips&tricks and advice are welcomed!

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    O_P_gamer96
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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/07/25 16:42:17 (permalink)
    what case is that?
    i am definitely worried about the heat dissipation capabilities of only 720mm worth of rad space for that much tdp.
    i think if done successfully the long lasting potential of this system is immense., especially with no oc'ing.
    for another two years i would say this worth it if temps get up to 80'c.
     edit:btw what logic are you using to justify the two 780's, do you have another system to put those in?
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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/07/25 20:16:31 (permalink)
    Moving to the OCB section.

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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/07/25 21:06:55 (permalink)
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    what case is that?
    i am definitely worried about the heat dissipation capabilities of only 720mm worth of rad space for that much tdp.
    i think if done successfully the long lasting potential of this system is immense., especially with no oc'ing.
    for another two years i would say this worth it if temps get up to 80'c.
     edit:btw what logic are you using to justify the two 780's, do you have another system to put those in?


    its probably a corsair 800d case.

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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/07/26 00:18:40 (permalink)
    Corsair 800d, which in case of new water cooling would mean changing case as well as there is not enough room for all radiators without extensive moding.
    Also true got 3 more computers beside this one, 1 is with single Asus 780 direct cu ii right now so could add one there, and there is room for 4 more as well in two other systems. 
    That would straight forward increase my overall rendering power.
    But as said this 4 titan is my main work horse so ...
    Less on budged side but more on practical side... we all heard horror leaking stories and having this that would be my first custom loop of course I'm not
    so sure to go and risk this expensive one :)
    But also don;t wanna spend twice as much to fisrt buy and make another wc system in cheapr comp and then go on this one.. that would bea bit too much :)
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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/07/26 15:11:12 (permalink)
    If you end up going for it, please for the love of the water genie, grab more rad space. As a rule of thumb, you should always count 120mm worth of space per block (comes up to 600mm for you) as well as some extra depending on what you're cooling. If you want to see decent temps in a loop cooling 4 GPUs, you have to have at least 960mm of rad space. Otherwise it won't be worth it to spend so much to put your rig under water.
    Thus I would advise either picking up another rad (a 240 preferably) and set up your loop in a way similar to this:
     
    res > pump > 360 rad > gpus > 360 rad > cpu > 240 rad > res
     
    Or picking up a 480 instead of one of the 360 and set the loop up like this:
     
    res > pump > 480 rad > gpus > 360 rad > cpu > res if you can fit a 480 rad in the bottom of your case, if not then switch the order of rads.
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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/08/15 07:25:53 (permalink)
    Look at my build water is cool..

     
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    Re: upgrading with watercooling - good idea or? 2014/08/17 07:44:55 (permalink)
     
    I would not worry about leaks. I put off watercooling for years because I was afraid of leaks.  The reasons I don't worry about leaks. When you set it up for the first time, you will run the loop for a day before you plug in anything. This will help you find any leaks. If it does not leak during the first 24 hour run, then it will more than likely not leak at all. Second, even if it does leak, you will be using coolant/water that is not conducting, so this will greatly decrease your chances of anything getting hurt.
     
    It does require a ton of time and patience though.

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