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2014/06/23 10:12:30 (permalink)
Has anyone done any Devils's Canyon testing with EVGA's Z97?

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/23 11:31:42 (permalink)
    hello me in few days my canyons devils full test with Z87 an Z97 classified
     
    the tread link sorry is in french
     
    http://forum.hardware.fr/...z97-sujet_281862_1.htm
     
    I'm street mobo , and friend hawak's make some test not only Z87 Z97
     
    dark versus RE4 and R4BE
     
     
    post edited by cateno - 2014/06/23 11:38:15

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
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    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 03:07:29 (permalink)
    I just got my new Z97 Classified from Amazon and picked up my 4790k from MC today for $270...yes $279 not $340 like everyone is selling it for. MC is 15 min from me :-) I have the new hardware installed and running but have yet to do any testing with my sim racing or benchmarks. With that said, I want to OC the cpu as I had it done with my 3770k and Z77 Sabertooth at 4.6ghz and it run as stable as stock clocks and was fast. I read where this combo can do 4.8ghz stable. I am confused a little with this EVGA Bios. If anyone can steer me right on Bios settings for an OC I would be grateful.
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 03:56:13 (permalink)
    Did you look through the BIOs guide?:
     
    http://www.evga.com/suppo...HR-E979_BIOS_Guide.pdf

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 04:22:31 (permalink)
    Lol, what Bios guide ?! This is the only MB I have ever bought that come with no full guide to the bios etc. All it come with is how to install hardware and connect wires...and that is very limited.

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 04:25:59 (permalink)
    I see now..thanks

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 05:03:49 (permalink)
    Let us know how you fare with your testing. I keep reading that 5Ghz is not easy to get stable @ 4c/8t with acceptable voltage/temps.

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 06:54:00 (permalink)
    High overclocking stability is determined by a number of factors such as stability of the PSU, correct O/C and memory settings, etc. 
     
    I'm interested if anyone is able to maintain a good 4.8 or higher overclock with relative ease. 

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 09:35:51 (permalink)
    I was running my 3770k @4.6gHz with Vcore@1.28v on an Asus Z77 Sabertooth with an EVGA 780ti stable, never crashed etc. and my temps never went above 62 C (water cooled). So, I am hoping to run this setup (4790k and Z97 Classified) at 4.8gHz(water cooled) stable. I also run a Supernova 1300w

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/25 10:17:53 (permalink)
    Nice let us know, I'm undecided between the EVGA Z97 FTW or the GB-Z97 Gaming 7. I've seen some solid reviews for the Gigabyte, but none for the EVGA.

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/26 19:42:40 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
     
    I'm interested if anyone is able to maintain a good 4.8 or higher overclock with relative ease. 



    Nope.
     
    There are only a few silicon lottery winners with this chip.
     
    Gone through hundreds of post and replies today.  4.7 on water seems to be the high end, less the very few chosen ones.
     
    Im at 4.5 stable using 1.4 on a 4770K, im not willing to gamble yet on a 4790K for a few tenths increase.  

     
     
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/06/27 01:12:31 (permalink)
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    Nice let us know, I'm undecided between the EVGA Z97 FTW or the GB-Z97 Gaming 7. I've seen some solid reviews for the Gigabyte, but none for the EVGA.




    I am surprised that there are so few reviews as well.
     
    These are the only two reviews for it so far:
     
    http://www.overclockers.com/evga-z97-classified-motherboard-review
     
    "From aesthetics to performance, EVGA seems to have checked all the right boxes with the Z97 Classified. If you’re considering a jump into the Z97 platform, you’ll definitely want to keep this motherboard on your shortlist. It’s an easy call this time around, Overclockers approved!"
     
    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Motherboards/EVGA-Z97-Classified-Motherboard-Review
     
    "Strengths
    Stock and overclocking performance
    Board layout and design
    Board aesthetics
    CPU socket layout and spacing
    UEFI BIOS design and usability
    CMOS battery placement
    Quality of integrated Creative Labs Core3D chipset and audio subsystem design
     
    Weaknesses
    Lack of accessible PCI-Express x1 slot with primary PCI-Express x16 slot occupied
    Lack of SATA-Express ports
    Inclusion of mSATA port instead of 10Gbps-capable M.2 port
    Lack of performance with drives connected to Marvell controlled SATA / mSATA ports
    Immaturity of BIOS implementation and affects on performance/overclocking
    Lack of in-depth board feature information in included manuals"
     
    It seems the default bios has some performance issues but the latest one works just fine, according to this review.
     
    During the Intel event earlier this month where they officially unveiled the 4790k the overclockers were all using the Z97 Classified and they all seemed to like it very much.
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/08 06:56:22 (permalink)
    I have my 4790k/Z97 Classified build running stable at 4.7ghz w/1.3v. Max stress temp 82℃. 24/7 load temp max 52℃

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/08 07:06:51 (permalink)
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    I have my 4790k/Z97 Classified build running stable at 4.7ghz w/1.3v. Max stress temp 82℃. 24/7 load temp max 52℃

    ....and is it stable for 24/7 operation?

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/08 08:17:30 (permalink)
    I run it for a few hours. This pc only eums when I sim race. That is its only purpose. It run all weekend while running multiple races which can last 1-2 hours oe more

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/10 09:33:17 (permalink)
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    I have my 4790k/Z97 Classified build running stable at 4.7ghz w/1.3v. Max stress temp 82℃. 24/7 load temp max 52℃



     
    interesting..
    i've been following this topic (and other on the web) and so far  it seems no one can go beyond 3.7GHz on that 4790K... and keep it 100% stable!
    i dunno why they unlocked the multiplier on this K version if it oc's SO badly.
     
    it is a nice upgrade from my C2Q Q9450 i admit it but... brings a bitter taste cause i was thinking in pushing it around 5Ghz and stay there.
     
    i dunno why Intel bragged about 5GHz!  marketing strategy i think... shame only a +300Mhz gain...  that's nothing..
     
    will there be another revision of this CPU? or will Intel stop at this one? not a BAD CPU i admit but.. meh....
    i've heard of broadwell 14nm cpu's..   but.. thats only for Xmas time i think..
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/10 09:48:44 (permalink)

     
    my test with 4690K on ftw Z97
    I have pentium 20' , not overclocking by bios  EVGA wait add the possibility at soon
     
    I have 4790k on classified , 4690K on ftw

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
    E761 I920
    E770 I950
    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/10 09:58:15 (permalink)
    names aside.. i was sure broadwell 14nm Cpu's would be for this summer! maybe i miscalculated!
     
    i am a bit confused now... cause the 4790K is 22nm obviously the "tock" refresh of the Haswell..

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/11 00:47:00 (permalink)
    With 4790k, I'm @ 4.5 (all four cores) with ~26C idle (22C room temp) and 55C load (EVGA OC scanner) with at Hyper 212 Evo air cooler.
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/15 10:42:24 (permalink)
    What you will find with this 4790K is that it runs VERY hot under full load. Even on water
     
    Anyone not reporting over 90C at 1.3v is not running the latest prime95 on small.
     
    Mine idles at 28C and will shoot to 99C on water instantly at 1.325v.
     
    Mine games at 57C ish   
     
    That is why most are limited to 4.7-4.8 These chips just cannot handle 1.4v unless you have them on ice water or L2.
     
     
    SO the trick is to delid and you can only use the liquid metal tim CLP and or CLU between the IHS and die. Use nail polish on the vrm's to protect them.   Do not delid with normal tim. The new tim is pretty good and anything else used will not bring temps down.   

     
     
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/15 10:46:41 (permalink)
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    I have my 4790k/Z97 Classified build running stable at 4.7ghz w/1.3v. Max stress temp 82℃. 24/7 load temp max 52℃

    ....and is it stable for 24/7 operation?




    yep they wil run stable at higher temps 
     
    mine is stable at 4.8 and games all day, but still shoots up to 99C on prime95 smalls
     
    Ive heard these chips throw another  0.1 v with stress testing.

     
     
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/22 06:47:30 (permalink)
    Due to the lack of reviews and information, I ended up going with the Gigabyte X97 Gaming 7. I also deled my 4790k and I'm running at 4.8 & 1.26v @ max 60C on prime small FFT's for 12hr's, but I'm on water.
     


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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/22 12:05:23 (permalink)
    hello
    kioto , your wb direct on cpu ? or use adapter to  no risk destroy the cores ?

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
    E761 I920
    E770 I950
    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/22 13:03:11 (permalink)
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    hello
    kioto , your wb direct on cpu ? or use adapter to  no risk destroy the cores ?



    Yeah the WB is right on the cpu die with liquid metal (coollab liquid ultra) in between the die and the WB, I'm using EK's PreciseMount Add-on Naked Ivy to hold the block on the die. I don't see much of a risk right now, might be an issue when I try to remove the block a year or so down the line, but I don't know.

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 03:05:47 (permalink)
    good morning kioto
    you do not have more pictures of the final result ?
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 07:14:45 (permalink)
    hawaks
    good morning kioto
    you do not have more pictures of the final result ?



    Hi there, I didn't take any more pictures, but I can take some when I get home, what would you like to see?

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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 10:48:43 (permalink)
    Your using the right Tim.  So far nothing works as good as coollabs U or P
     
     
     
    Which version of prime are you using?   The later versions do not have all the actions turned on.
     
     
    Congrats, good job.   I have to run 1.325 delidded.  My ultra will be here Thursday and can use a proper tim.
     
     
         

     
     
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 11:07:13 (permalink)
    I'm thinking about delid my 4770K too.  What's the best TIM?  I'm not sure if it's worthy or not.  I cannot get my CPU pass 4.4Ghz no matter what voltage I add on MSI z87 power max SP board.
     

     
     
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 11:10:17 (permalink)
    I believe I tested using 28.5 but I'm not 100% sure, I'll check when I get home and get back to you. I was at high 80's before my delid using IC Diamond, I didn't like that one bit and deled, now I'm a happy camper.
     
    Coollaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra is one of if not the best TIM for bare die (delid) application. I don't have a heat spreader installed anymore, but I wouldn't use CLP/CLU between the heat spreader and block/cooler. If you keep the heat spreader, I would suggest using CLP/CLU between the die and the heat spreader and whatever other TIM you like best between the heat spreader and your block/cooler.
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    Re: Any DC (4790K) w/ EVGA's Z97? 2014/07/23 12:53:40 (permalink)
    Yeah I was using Prime95 28.5 V2. Here are some more pictures.
     





     
    I know it's a little messy in there, but I don't mind. I actually like these crystal clear tubes, thickness and all.

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