EVGA_JacobF
Important announcement:
 

We understand that there is a lot of confusion and misinformation in the internet community about Guru3D’s article titled “Did EVGA just Steal the Rivatuner RTSS design concept into PrecisionX 15 ?”. We would like to clarify the following:

1. Precision’s original main GUI concept was designed and provided to the community by EVGA in 2008.
2. The RivaTuner control panel and backend code in prior versions of Precision were developed and is owned by the RivaTuner developer. EVGA does not own the source code for any RivaTuner code. EVGA paid for the development and distribution rights per the contract.
3. The new EVGA PrecisionX 15 was coded from scratch by EVGA without copying any of the RivaTuner code.
4. Both RivaTuner and EVGA PrecisionX 15 make use of the NVIDIA NVAPI to communicate with NVIDIA graphics cards and drivers, which is owned and provided by NVIDIA.

Some people mentioned that the file structure in EVGA PrecisionX 15 is similar to the previous version of Precision. During development, we referenced the USF skin format (which has been published by RivaTuner developer at Guru3D forums in 2009 http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3316361&postcount=8 to allow the community to create their own skins). The above mentioned feature would make it simple to allow users to recompile any previous skins to work with the new version of PrecisionX 15. However, we do understand the confusion caused by trying to maintain this feature and we will change it in the next release.
 
Next, it was also mentioned that the code contains text references (not code) to the word “RivaTuner” and the word “RTTSH.dll”, a RivaTuner file. This actually came from the user interface localization / help (wording). During the original Precision development, EVGA worked with several outside firms to help translate user interface help files into various languages, unfortunately this is a misprint in the translation files and will be fixed. Again, no RivaTuner code was ever used in EVGA PrecisionX 15. We apologize to the RivaTuner developer for this error.
 
Originally our goal was to add more features such as 64bit OSD, Steam, updated voltage controls, and more to a new version without changing the Precision user’s experience that they were already familiar with. Unfortunately, the “similarities” between the two programs have led people to believe that EVGA might have copied the code and design from RivaTuner, which is not the case. Given the circumstances, in order to remove any questions and to further differentiate it visually from the previous versions of EVGA Precision, EVGA has decided to listen to the community and suspend the downloading of EVGA PrecisionX 15 temporarily while these updates are being implemented.
 
Please remember, Precision was and is built for the community and without the community EVGA Precision and many other overclocking utilities would not be where they are today. It is EVGA’s commitment to continue investing in the development of PrecisionX by adding the features the community asks for while providing it free of charge!
 
Thank You,
EVGA

 
No, thank you, EVGA!
This is what I've been expecting: a clear statement of what's been done and why, and a straight apology for what's due (which does not involve any stealing or copying but rather blunders involving references to RTSS and certain RTSS resources), and a clear direction for the in-house Precision to strictly distinguish itself from previous versions.
 
Seriously, people need to stop this copying/stealing talk. Haters are gonna hate, but at least have some support behind the allegations. Even when Unwinder himself said EVGA does not have the code, even when the new Precision is lacking certain some features and is evidently more buggy, on what basis can anyone talk about stealing or copying the code?
 
It is very clear from EVGA's above response is that they did (unnecessarily and I might add naively) try to maintain the skinning feature and kept using the same references/IDs/etc to the same resources. Does that make them thieves? No, it just makes them naive enough to think that they're just doing some service to the community, while instead the community interpreted it in the most evil way possible. Lesson learned, for EVGA, sigh...
 
They also mention the "similarities" and that they're going to change things around. Now that was a bad call from the get-go, but at least they're correcting it...
 
Now I expect some real level-headedness from Unwinder, and would like to ask him in all honesty, is it possible that EVGA is telling the truth, and that all this was a well-mannered, yet naive and novice and even thoughtless attempt to just keep an existing feature and visuals, coupled with some programming mishaps, which all-in-all grew beyond proportion, or would you rather ride on the "evil EVGA" wave? I totally understand why you might feel offended due to the unwarranted similarities, but I think it's time to calm the waters down, don't you think?
 
At the end, it was perhaps necessary that the community responded the way they did, just so that EVGA is righting some wrongs (again, which did not involve copying the code, but rather replicating some UI elements sprinkled with programming issues). But I also think it's time to stop using this excuse to spread hate, name-calling, and other insults and bashing both towards EVGA and community members who think highly of EVGA (surely, you may have had some other bad experience with EVGA, but that's another matter). I'm posting here but my words are to everyone who has commented on this issue on this forum or another...
 
 
 
 
 

I will never buy an EVGA product again and I will warn against anyone I know from doing so.

Congratulations EVGA

Brad i heard you took pay offs from private parties to comment randomly on this topic in full support of both parties involved.

wrinvert
Brad i heard you took pay offs from private parties to comment randomly on this topic in full support of both parties involved.

A man has to make a living somehow.  LOL!

I love EVGA and their products, unfortunately this is troubling news to me. Sure they may have built the software ground up without copying code, but the GUI is way too similar. I'm sure that this was a decision made up top to minimize cost and the people who worked on this build or people who work for EVGA releasing statements have nothing to do with that decision. In my opinion, using the same GUI is pretty bad and it does cause lawsuits if the original developer had patents or something of the sort for their design. The hard part was the coding, it shouldn't have cost that much in coming up with a new design or at the very least changing the layout. At least the software is free for the end users so this isn't as bad. 
 
 
 

Well this whole thing is funny. Like little girls on the phone gossiping about the prom and who danced with who.
 
Get over yourselves. Stuck up company and a stuck up developer who thinks he deserves the keys to the kingdom.
 
I'll just use Afterburner and won't be back.
 
Grow up ladies.

BioHazardSperm

Krighton_
Well this whole thing is funny. Like little girls on the phone gossiping about the prom and who danced with who.
 
Get over yourselves. Stuck up company and a stuck up developer who thinks he deserves the keys to the kingdom.
 
I'll just use Afterburner and won't be back.
 
Grow up ladies.

LOL he insults both but still wants to use AB ......(made by the same guy he just insults ) its almost laughable

Yeah, I found that funny too :)
 
 

 
Why revive this thread after 3 weeks?  I thought it was finally laid to rest.
 

no matter what the main GUI looks like, we all know what's behind.

 
Oh yeah?  I bet you were thinking that RivaTuner was behind it.  But, no, that is not true.
NVIDIA's API is what is behind it.    The API is provided by NVIDIA for anyone to use.   Unwinder didn't invent a method of communicating with the video card and EVGA didn't steal it.
 
EVGA didn't steal the skin system either since it was provided publicly to everyone.  Knowing how the skins worked, EVGA programmed their software to accept those identifiers so that previously-made skins would still work in the new version.
 
Please re-read EVGA's official statement.  Even though it appears that EVGA has not done anything wrong, EVGA has decided to further differentiate their software from Unwinder's software due to such a ridiculous public outcry.

interesting that this thread still exsists, but i can clearly see evga stealing it.  i mean after all they tampered with my products page to indicate my 3 gtx 560Ti ( whic came from and rma on some lifetime warranty cards) GPU's were bought one from micro center and the other 2 from somewhere else and that is sad considering i have only ever bought from micro center 1 time and it was a Q6600 CPU and as such are claiming they are outside of warranty.  this is fine by me because evga isnt the only game in town  for GPU's and (in normal circumstances unlike the current price gouging going on) some other brands are better and cheaper and with everyone including evga having 3 year warranty there really is no benefit to buying EVGA branded GPU's.  been relaying my personal experiance about the matter on social media as of late to let others know what to expect from the apparent new evga where customers dont mean much but i digress that is another story.
 
in regards to the precision fiasco, i will say this afterburner is crap been reading a few complaints about it lately and also make a statement regarding the new evga oc utility and that is it sucks unless you have newer cards, those still running 5. 6, 7 series cards cant really use it for a fact i know it doesnt work with 560Ti's. 
 
i see no reason at this juncture to support evga rivatuner or unwinder.  think about it be fair dont support EITHER party evga or unwinder problem solved :D

lordraptor1
interesting that this thread still exsists, but i can clearly see evga stealing it.  i mean after all they tampered with my products page to indicate my 3 gtx 560Ti ( whic came from and rma on some lifetime warranty cards) GPU's were bought one from micro center and the other 2 from somewhere else and that is sad considering i have only ever bought from micro center 1 time and it was a Q6600 CPU and as such are claiming they are outside of warranty.  this is fine by me because evga isnt the only game in town  for GPU's and (in normal circumstances unlike the current price gouging going on) some other brands are better and cheaper and with everyone including evga having 3 year warranty there really is no benefit to buying EVGA branded GPU's.  been relaying my personal experiance about the matter on social media as of late to let others know what to expect from the apparent new evga where customers dont mean much but i digress that is another story.
 
in regards to the precision fiasco, i will say this afterburner is crap been reading a few complaints about it lately and also make a statement regarding the new evga oc utility and that is it sucks unless you have newer cards, those still running 5. 6, 7 series cards cant really use it for a fact i know it doesnt work with 560Ti's. 
 
i see no reason at this juncture to support evga rivatuner or unwinder.  think about it be fair dont support EITHER party evga or unwinder problem solved :D

There was a thread created for this purpose. No reason to necro a thread from
3.5 years ago:

https://forums.evga.com/j...-goodbye-m2766810.aspx

Also, welcome back. Your goodbye didn’t last long at all.