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My SR-2 board is ariving today and I need some expert advise on what is the better way to go with power supply setup. Here is what I am working toward: SR-2 running 2 x X5550 (already arived) also have 2 x W5580's on the way (going to keep the set that overclocks the best also appreciat advice on BIOS ver. to use) 3 x GTX 480's 3 x 160GB Intel SSD's 24 Gigs of Corsair Dominator RAM (2 GB sticks fully populated) All water cooled 2 x Heatkiller 3.0, 3 x DD water blocks for the 480's, I have 3 MCP 655 pumps to work with and a MCP355, 2 x SR-1 Rad's 580's (4 * 140mm fans each side) push pull config (won't use all the pumps but havn't decided on single or double loop) And The Question is for Power Supplies I have to choose from (sitting in my room) Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1200M 1200W (I have looked around for hours and not found a solid anwser, but my main concern is that the CPU power connectors on this power supply and most are 1 x 4+4 Pin EPS/ATX 12V and a 1 x 8 Pin EPS 12V and the SR-2 calls for 2 x 8 Pin ATX 12v and as far as I can tell these standards are slightly different.) or should I go with 2 x CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX I know most people seem to be using the larger power supplies (1000w+) that state the 8 pin as EPS (not ATX \ EPS as the 4+4 is rated) with out problems but I figure better safe than sorry and I am looking to get the highes stable overclock I can. All parts are here just waiting for the Motherboard to arive. Won't be running any other HD's already have a 20TB Raid 6 on my home network. Building custom case today will post seperate (have a CNC router and a Omax water jet to work with)
post edited by R!v3rRa7 - 2012/05/17 17:50:58
SR-2 L5638 2.0 @ 3120Mhz (195 x 16 pulling 1.375) still working on voltages 3Way SLI EVGA GTX 480's All under water: Hope UR ready ( this is my first go at water cooling ) micro Res. V2...MCP655...Black Ice GT Extreme 420 Rad (140 x 3)...Heat killer 3.0(CPU0)...Black Ice GT Stealth 140 Rad (140 x 1)... Heat killer 3.0(CPU1)....MCP655.....Black Ice SR-1 560 Rad (140 x 4)...3 Way SLI GTX 480's all with DD-Full Cover blocks all Nickel Plated ver.... Back to micro Res.V2....All Rads Push Pull with fan controllers. CPU0. Idle 24. Load. 43 (6hrs running Prime95) CPU1. Idle 27. Load. 47 480's. Idle 36. Load. 48. (Max on any card after 4hrs of 3D Skyrim on 200'' Acer H5360)
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/17 17:51:54
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850watts is ok for 2 video cards. after that you will need secondary or bigger unit. as far as the dual eps - you can always use an adaptor if the second one doesnt work right. I have had most success with corsair psu, but enermax and silverstone also make proven sr-2 psu. evga is suposably comming out with some nice new power supplies soon as well. I will be upgrading to one of those when they release it.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/17 17:57:07
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Which power supply setup do you think i should use the: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1200M 1200W or go for using 2 x CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX. I am assembling my system right now.
post edited by R!v3rRa7 - 2012/05/17 20:47:59
SR-2 L5638 2.0 @ 3120Mhz (195 x 16 pulling 1.375) still working on voltages 3Way SLI EVGA GTX 480's All under water: Hope UR ready ( this is my first go at water cooling ) micro Res. V2...MCP655...Black Ice GT Extreme 420 Rad (140 x 3)...Heat killer 3.0(CPU0)...Black Ice GT Stealth 140 Rad (140 x 1)... Heat killer 3.0(CPU1)....MCP655.....Black Ice SR-1 560 Rad (140 x 4)...3 Way SLI GTX 480's all with DD-Full Cover blocks all Nickel Plated ver.... Back to micro Res.V2....All Rads Push Pull with fan controllers. CPU0. Idle 24. Load. 43 (6hrs running Prime95) CPU1. Idle 27. Load. 47 480's. Idle 36. Load. 48. (Max on any card after 4hrs of 3D Skyrim on 200'' Acer H5360)
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/17 18:09:50
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it is easier to use 1 psu than 2, but I use 2 corsair 850's right now on my sr2 and you just have to jump the harness to make them both turn on at the same time. run all the cpu,hard drive, and motherboard off the 1st and all the video cards and fans and aux off the second.
the thermaltake should work as well but i have no experience with their psu and have heard that they are not quite as good as the corsairs. either way you should be ok though, just might need to buy an eps adaptor for the thermaltake(maybe, not sure on that)
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/17 18:50:45
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Graphics and CPU's draw the most power in your system, and since thye draw from 12v, if you add up those amps you get an idea of what to expect. Each GTX480 is around 250W draw or 21A at 12v, both 45nm quads and 32nm 6-core at 3.2GHz draws 11A at 12v (extra QPI link has a negligible impact on power, so i7's and Xeons are similar here). Therefore your all-stock 12v draw requirement is approximately 85A-- since PSU rails don't add up, you look at the max combined wattage allowed for 12v. Whatever PSU works for that amperage. If you intend to overclock, power scales linearly when you don't touch voltage (10% faster is 10% more power), and exponentially when you do (double power for every 40% increase). So if we assumed a 10% overclock on all your GTX480's, and your pair of quads up at 4.0GHz, then you need a minimum of 103A from 12v. Since all drives, fans and pumps draw from 12v too, take them into account (labels on them say what they need). All in all, more than 1200W unit to be safe. Off topic: Why did you go for a pair of quads from the same 45nm lithography, were the 32nm option not available at time of purchase, i.e. Xeon 5600 series? At least being 32nm, they use less power, but the 6-core would use the same power as your quads, proven by the Anandtech link.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/17 20:46:10
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To be honest I got the CPU's for around $150 ea $300 for the pair and the 5600's are around $400 + each. So when I can get a SR-2 up and running for $600 (got the board for $300) and I already had all the other parts, I figured I would try out this setup. I also like to run several virtual boxes for testing and it was taxing my 975. Plus the 980's / 990's are still going for over $500. See where I was coming from.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/18 00:13:44
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I've got 2 e5620 clocked at 3.8 ghz, 4 3tb hard drives, 2 ssd's, 2 corsair h70's, 1 gtx 570 classified, areca 1880i, ht omega e claro, 12 GB of vengeance ram 2000mhz, and seven fans all hooked up to a sliverstone st-1500 power supply. It allowed me to populate all the auxillary power ports on the board, and it keeps all my voltages nice and stable. it's housed in a lian li 2120B case, and all the cables were long enough to reach behind the mobo tray except 2. (one for the graphics, and one for the aux cpu, and aux pci. Fan never kicks up either so I assume it's not heavily loaded, which is good as I plan on keeping this board/build for a few years, and plan on upgrading cpu's and graphics cards.
Hope you enjoy your build....... Once I figured out overclocking on this I sure did.........and I found better luck with the original bios my board came with, over A56 (the latest), and I also had to change setting in the voltage tweaks menu.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/18 01:02:09
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The Thermaltake should suffice though at the highest clocks you might be limited slightly.
Wait a month, the NEX-1500 Classified power supply is coming soon. ;)
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 12:51:08
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Or take the silverstone Strider st1500W, then u have space for oc left.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 18:34:55
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R!v3rRa7
To be honest I got the CPU's for around $150 ea $300 for the pair and the 5600's are around $400 + each. So when I can get a SR-2 up and running for $600 (got the board for $300) and I already had all the other parts, I figured I would try out this setup. I also like to run several virtual boxes for testing and it was taxing my 975. Plus the 980's / 990's are still going for over $500. See where I was coming from.
Just a few things worthy of mention for you: If you populate more than 1 dimm per channel on that board with a 5500 series xeon, it will downclock it. So if you have 2 dimms per channel on the 5500 series and you have it set at the 1333 divider, because 2 per channel are used, it will downclock to 1066. With the 5600 series, this is NOT true, despite what some uneducated people on the forums here believe. I have made numerous references in other posts about this fact, along with sources from other sites, manuals of boards using the same chipset, and also Intel's site itself. As far as your power supply goes, I feel the 1200 would be satisfactory for the job. But if you intend to do any kind of major upgrades such as more graphics cards, you'd be wise to invest in either a larger power supply or an additional one and use an adapter to run both together. There's a site called http://www.Frozencpu.com that I have used that sells those adapters along with lots of heat sinks, fans, and watercooling kits. As some of the other members on this forum have mentioned, the Silverstone ST1500 is an excellent power supply. I used it to power this system along with an Enermax MAXRevo 1350 watt. Once I went to 3 680's, it was no longer necessary to use the 1500 watt one, so I use just the Enermax now. I also use a single FSP Booster X5 power supply which fits in the drive bay of the case. It is a power supply just for the graphics card. That is another alternative as opposed to using another full size power supply. And it is capable of powering 2 graphics cards as well. So if you have the drive bay space, that may be another route to consider as well. The 680's consume a lot less power than the 580's that it replaced, fortunately.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 19:55:21
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When I was looking for a power supply, I read in some forum that the Thermaltake 1500w failed to feed the SR-2 (so it is not just about total power output but one needs to know if the unit can supply enough power on certain rails). The author then opted for the Silverstone 1500w which performed flawlessly.I am sure if you search for using the right keywords, you will find the post. I personally opted for Seasonic X-1250 (I am only having one GPU). I haven't done OC yet; waiting for the case.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 20:07:03
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The Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W is based on a Channel Well PUC design, which is essentially two 750W power supplies crammed on one PCB (see also the Corsair HX1000, which is the same platform but lower wattage). The design has several pros and cons, but in modern super-enthusiast systems like SR-2 and SR-X the "dual rail" design can cause the user to trip one of those 750W PSUs' over current protection and shut the PSU down; or if those protections are disabled, possibly cause poor electrical performance due to crossloading. It's complicated.
Basically you want to have either one rail, or as many rails as possible. 90% of all issues with "multi rail" units come from either dual rail designs like CWT PUC, or poorly designed quad rail designs. With properly designed quad, six, or eight rail designs it becomes very rare to encounter these issues.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 23:01:13
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EVGA_MikeP
The Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W is based on a Channel Well PUC design, which is essentially two 750W power supplies crammed on one PCB (see also the Corsair HX1000, which is the same platform but lower wattage). The design has several pros and cons, but in modern super-enthusiast systems like SR-2 and SR-X the "dual rail" design can cause the user to trip one of those 750W PSUs' over current protection and shut the PSU down; or if those protections are disabled, possibly cause poor electrical performance due to crossloading. It's complicated.
Basically you want to have either one rail, or as many rails as possible. 90% of all issues with "multi rail" units come from either dual rail designs like CWT PUC, or poorly designed quad rail designs. With properly designed quad, six, or eight rail designs it becomes very rare to encounter these issues.
What do you know about the PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 1200 watt power supply? I tried using that a ways back with this board and it would get into windows, but as soon as I'd run a program like folding@home, or a program through the BOINC client, the whole thing would shut down. Once I moved to a larger power supply, at the time the SilverStone ST1500, which solved the problem. Ultimately I decided to go with 2 large power supplies to better even out the load. But getting the ST1500 resolved all of my power problems.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/20 23:43:45
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The Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W is based on a Channel Well PUC design, which is essentially two 750W power supplies crammed on one PCB (see also the Corsair HX1000, which is the same platform but lower wattage). The design has several pros and cons, but in modern super-enthusiast systems like SR-2 and SR-X the "dual rail" design can cause the user to trip one of those 750W PSUs' over current protection and shut the PSU down; or if those protections are disabled, possibly cause poor electrical performance due to crossloading. It's complicated.
Basically you want to have either one rail, or as many rails as possible. 90% of all issues with "multi rail" units come from either dual rail designs like CWT PUC, or poorly designed quad rail designs. With properly designed quad, six, or eight rail designs it becomes very rare to encounter these issues.
What do you know about the PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 1200 watt power supply? I tried using that a ways back with this board and it would get into windows, but as soon as I'd run a program like folding@home, or a program through the BOINC client, the whole thing would shut down. Once I moved to a larger power supply, at the time the SilverStone ST1500, which solved the problem. Ultimately I decided to go with 2 large power supplies to better even out the load. But getting the ST1500 resolved all of my power problems.
The TurboCool was a good unit, although it shows its age these days when you look at its electrical performance and efficiency. What GPUs were you powering?
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/21 00:27:47
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The Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W is based on a Channel Well PUC design, which is essentially two 750W power supplies crammed on one PCB (see also the Corsair HX1000, which is the same platform but lower wattage). The design has several pros and cons, but in modern super-enthusiast systems like SR-2 and SR-X the "dual rail" design can cause the user to trip one of those 750W PSUs' over current protection and shut the PSU down; or if those protections are disabled, possibly cause poor electrical performance due to crossloading. It's complicated.
Basically you want to have either one rail, or as many rails as possible. 90% of all issues with "multi rail" units come from either dual rail designs like CWT PUC, or poorly designed quad rail designs. With properly designed quad, six, or eight rail designs it becomes very rare to encounter these issues.
What do you know about the PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 1200 watt power supply? I tried using that a ways back with this board and it would get into windows, but as soon as I'd run a program like folding@home, or a program through the BOINC client, the whole thing would shut down. Once I moved to a larger power supply, at the time the SilverStone ST1500, which solved the problem. Ultimately I decided to go with 2 large power supplies to better even out the load. But getting the ST1500 resolved all of my power problems.
The TurboCool was a good unit, although it shows its age these days when you look at its electrical performance and efficiency. What GPUs were you powering?
At the time, I had 2 GTX 580's.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2012/05/21 00:30:03
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It shouldn't have been an issue. But the PSU might have been partially defective. Hard to say.
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2014/07/21 10:59:39
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Hi guys, sorry the bump I have a question regarding this mobo and the power consumption (on topic). with a single EVGA GTX 770 SC 2Gb video card, with a pair of Xeon X5650 without OC (for the moment, when make OC need a more watts, of course), and with 8HDD (WD Caviar Green) + 1SSD what is a minimun minimun PSU recommended for this config? forgive me for what I'll say but... with a Thermaltake ToughPower 750w with "Y" 8p ATX connector for the dual CPU I will sufficient?. also i looking a Bequiet PurePower 850W with double 8p ATX connectors (for dual GPU). this may serve? i no want a +1KW PSU, because the electricity in my country is too expensive. greetings
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Re:Power Supply Help SR-2 Build
2014/07/21 15:26:47
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You will need to post a new thread for your problem, as this one is over 2 years old now. Thanks. (Locking)
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