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GTX 780ti, to be or not to be?

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2014/04/22 11:22:06 (permalink)
I know I have asked similar questions in the past but lets go for yet another variation on the theme.
 
Amazon has the EVGA 780Ti 3GB VRam Superclocked with the reference cooler for $689.99 and a $10 rebate right now. Free two day shipping with my Prime account. I am tempted but I have to wonder if I would not bee better off to wait for the higher end Maxwell cards to be released. My GTX 680 2GB VRam does the job right now. It's only failing is with Skyrim heavily modified with texture mods, it runs out of VRam from time to time.
 
Aside from rare Skyrim issues the 680 is fine. That being said I am debating about upgrade my i5-3570k to a i7-3770k for HT and add in a pair of stock 750Ti's for crunching for $623.97 before shipping and taxes instead of going the 780Ti route.
 
The i7-3770k will work in my current Motherboard and I think my Cooler Master Gemin II CPU cooler will do a good job with the i7.
 
Here is my current system that I want to maximize for crunching while being able to play games from time to time. Yet not have to build a totally new system.
 
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
CORSAIR Vengeance LP 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
2x SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC512D/AM 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
SeaSonic Platinum Platinum-860 860W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler
 
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    yodap
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/22 13:09:10 (permalink)
    780ti all the way. Then start planning for a meaningful cpu (12 thread) and main board upgrade in the fall or next spring. (just my 2 cents)


     

     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/22 18:23:13 (permalink)
    If your goal is to simply upgrade rather than build new then I think you are on the right track.  So far the 750Ti is working out well for me and I have definitely seen a nice boost in my crunching output with a minimal increase in power usage.
    On the other hand, will a 780Ti give you more crunching performance than an upgraded CPU and two 750Ti's?  That I don't know.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/22 22:54:53 (permalink)
    The GTX 780 Ti is an all around good card for crunching and gaming. I am running a single card of this type. Although I mainly run AMD cards for crunching which is the most optimal for Einstein@Home, I found the 780 Ti to perform very well with most of the crunching projects. The only exception would be project applications that run double precision (DP) calculations. The main project that significantly depends on DP calculations is Milkyway@Home. With this project, a Titan with DP performance mode enabled or 7970 would be a better choice. Aside from Milkyway, the other projects I have tested with the 780 Ti include Asteroids, Einstein, GPUGrid, and Seti. All four projects work well with this card.
     
    I occasionally play Skyrim with the 2K HD textures via a 780 Ti at 2560x1600 and found the card to be more than sufficient with this game.

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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 00:03:51 (permalink)
    The 780Ti is a beast! You'll love it! Cause I sure love mine!

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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 03:02:14 (permalink)
    can't sli 750ti's, so great for crunching/folding not so much gaming.


     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 08:25:46 (permalink)
    I have a 3770k at 4.4 ghz.... this recent pg challenge, my tasks were finishing around 45-50 min.... what were your times?
    I have the h100 on it, it topped out at 60c using all 8 threads in a closet with no air circulation with the door slightly open....



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 09:11:50 (permalink)
    It varied some but they are all in the 25 to 40 minute range on the i5-3570k at 4.2GHz. I stay around 50C with the Cooler Master Gemin II CPU cooler. 50C running Prime Grid, most other projects I run have my temps pretty solid at 42/43c.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 09:37:36 (permalink)
    You have more ram than me, i wonder tho much that plays into it, as well as the temps.... Im not around when the temp could be goin above 60c and triggering an oc downthrottle....
    Were your pps tasks saying p ps llr 6.24?

    Either way, worst case you only double your output by gaining by with the 3770k upgrade....



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 09:50:58 (permalink)
    Yup, PPS (LLR) 6.24. Did you have HT turned on? Maybe that was a factor in your longer run times.
     
    After thinking about it some more I am leaning towards the GPU now and waiting to see what the new Haswell E's, i7-5960X with 8 cores or the  i7-5930K with 6 cores, are going to look like price wise later on. Just upgrade the motherboard, CPU, and go to DDR4 ram if its out and affordable by then.
     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/23 10:20:04 (permalink)
    It was on.... times did improve a bit from the old version of p ps, by about 30 min a task....



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/30 17:27:33 (permalink)
    I am not sure if you are still looking at purchasing a 780 Ti. I compiled a document of details for each project that I tested with using a GTX 780 Ti. In some cases, the run times were averaged if I had multiple completed tasks available.
     
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rJfEKtxaLfpoCpWe-LhdylWzO1TeCGXryWM7mUnpxCE/pubhtml
     

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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/04/30 17:37:21 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info linuxrouter. I am still debating it. The reports of coil whine and not crunching at full capacity on some projects are making me hesitate.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/21 11:56:15 (permalink)
    Well the answer to the question is To BE! A EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked will be here tomorrow along with a Kindle Paper White eReader. My old Kindle Keyboard locked up on me today and after hitting three stores looking for a replacement, with no luck, I came home and just ordered one straight from Amazon and noticed the 780 Ti was on sale and had a $20 rebate as well. Not a bad deal, a 780 Ti Superclocked with reference cooler for $670 after rebate.  Here is the link to it if any one else is feeling the itch.
     
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GFZMI3G/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
    The thing I find hard to believe is that Best Buy, Office Max, and Radio Shack did not have a single Kindle in stock. The all were eager to order me one and have it shipped to my house. But why do that when I can do the same thing myself via Amazon and cut out the middle man and probably get it faster?
     
    I mainly went shopping to buy some new semi dressy clothes for the funeral. The only suit I own is the one I wore for my high school graduation back in 1987. Yeah, it doesn't fit any more. I tried to put on the jacket and ripped the back out of it when I tried to pull it up on my shoulders. I guess I have built up some shoulder width since the last time I wore it for my Grandfathers funeral back in 1991. Amazing what happens to your body over twenty plus years of doing what amounts to manual labor work.
     
    Now to see if I can make it through until tomorrow reading those old fashioned books made out of paper. Not sure if I remember how to turn a page. Might have to look it up on Bing to refresh my memory....
     
     
     



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/21 12:35:37 (permalink)
    I feel the itch to buy a 780 Ti Superclocked, just lack the funds! 
     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/21 13:26:16 (permalink)
    The 780Ti's yes heh, Khali... I Ensure you...
    Just by unpacking it you will be convinced.
    You have never seen such a big card,ever, because.... there are none ha ha.
    I've got two EVGA GTX780Ti Classified's, just look at those numbers:
    Genefer world records (Prime Grid): Recent average GPU time, 154:23hrs, my finish time 235.205 cpu sec, meaning 65,3hrs.
    Less than half of average time.
    The 780Ti's are awsome bro..
     
     


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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/21 14:52:09 (permalink)
    I guess I will be seeing how well my Platinum 860 watt Seasonic PSU will handle the load. I am planning on keeping my 680 in the system as well.
     
    I just need to figure out how to set one GPU to one project and the other to a different project when the mood hits me.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/22 09:14:10 (permalink)
    I feel like a little kid waiting on Santa on Christmas eve sitting here waiting on the UPS man to show up. I just hope they make it here before I have to leave in about four hours to go to the viewing.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/22 10:11:19 (permalink)
    It will blow Your socks off Khali


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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/22 11:19:55 (permalink)
    It showed up in time. It will have to wait until I get back from the viewing to be installed. Speaking of which I need to go round up my bag of power cables for my modular PSU. I really need to get a spare tool box to keep computer tools and parts in. Cable, screws, spare fans, etc.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/22 22:16:15 (permalink)
    OK, its installed and the 780 Ti and crunching away on GPU Grid. I moved the 680 down to my second PCI E slot and its crunching away as well. I may have to relocate my PC since it sounds like a jet engine with both GPU fans running. The fan curve I set up for my 680 does not do the job for the 780 Ti and I can't figure out how to set up a second one for the 780 using EVGA Precision. Not sure it was meant for two cards of different models. I have to set the 780 to 85% fan speed to keep it below 80 C. I may have to remove the side window in my Corsair 600T case and install the mesh grill that came as a option to let more air into the case right by the GPU fans.
     
    After 30 minutes run time the 780 Ti is at 9% and the 680 is at 5% on GPU Grid Long Run tasks that both started at the same time.
     
    Any one know how or if you can run one project on the 780 Ti and a different project on the 680? Or do I have to stick with the same project on both GPU's?
     
    Edit: I just noticed I lose a CPU core with both GPU's running. Which did not surprise me much.
    post edited by Khalifrio - 2014/05/22 22:30:18



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/23 09:50:56 (permalink)
    Khalifrio
    Any one know how or if you can run one project on the 780 Ti and a different project on the 680? Or do I have to stick with the same project on both GPU's?



    Yes, you can do this. In the following folder, create a file called cc_config.xml.
     
    C:\ProgramData\BOINC\
     
    In this file, you can exclude GPUs for specific projects and applications within a project. Here is an example.
     
    <cc_config>
    <options>
    <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
     
    <exclude_gpu>
    <url>http://www.gpugrid.net</url>
    <device_num>1</device_num>
    </exclude_gpu>
     
    <exclude_gpu>
    <url>http://www.primegrid.net</url>
    <device_num>0</device_num>
    </exclude_gpu>
     
    <exclude_gpu>
    <url>http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu</url>
    <device_num>0</device_num>
    <type>NVIDIA</type>
    <app>hsgamma_FGRP3</app>
    </exclude_gpu>
     
    <exclude_gpu>
    <url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu</url>
    <device_num>0</device_num>
    <type>NVIDIA</type>
    <app>astropulse_v6</app>
    </exclude_gpu>
    </options>
    </cc_config>
     
    In the above example, all GPUGrid applications are setup to run only on GPU 0. All PrimeGrid applications, Einstein hsgamma_FGRP3, and Seti astropulse_v6 applications are setup to run only on GPU 1. In addition, the use_all_gpus flags tells BOINC to run on all GPUs in a mixed GPU environment. After creating the cc_config.xml file, you need to go into BOINC Manager and under the Advanced menu, select Read config files. Alternatively, you can read the cc_config.xml file from a command prompt by going to C:\Program Files\BOINC and typing boinccmd --read_cc_config.
    post edited by linuxrouter - 2014/05/23 09:59:44

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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/23 14:18:55 (permalink)
    Thanks linuxrouter!!!

     
    I already had the config change for multiple GPU's in place. But the exclude GPU portion of that will come in handy.



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/23 23:37:39 (permalink)
    OK, all I can say is WOW!!! I was curious about my GPU Grid point production after a full 24 hours with the 780 Ti running along side my old 680. I used to run some where between 300k to 400k on a good day with the 680 alone. Since Free DC seems to be stuck and not updating I went over to my account on GPU Grid and did the math for all the tasks I ran for the 23rd. I came up with a grand total of 896,700.
     
    Yes indeedy, I am one happy camper with the 780 Ti.
    post edited by Khalifrio - 2014/05/23 23:39:17



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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/26 14:06:51 (permalink)
    One last thing before I let this thread die.
     
    Yesterday I had my first one million point day in GPU Grid with a grand total of 1,047,900 in GPU Grid for the day! 
     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/26 14:21:00 (permalink)
    Nicely done Khali... the thread never dies... it just goes into hibernation.
     
    Congrats on the new card... and again a thanks for your contributions to the team.
     


     
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    Re: GTX 780ti, to be or not to be? 2014/05/28 05:58:45 (permalink)
    Yeah, I see you place some very decent numbers on GPUGrid these days.
    Happy for you Khali
    As I said in another post, "I think we will get our 3 GpuGrid points back soon..... Very soon^^" 
     


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