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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/02/22 06:03:07
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I think the rumors currently have it targeted for Q3 or Q4 end of the year more or less.
Ok, thanks! That really sucks that it's going to take that long, and now Nvidia looks like they're switching the way they do things. It's not fair that us desktop users are at the bottom now. I understand that mobile devices are selling the most, but it's sort of screwing us. I say that because I won't have that money during that time. I'll only have it for tax time and can only wait 2 to 3 months at most or else my wife WILL spend it, so I'll have to get the 780 I imagine.
780 is a great GPU. You won't be disappointed.
Cool, that makes me feel better. I know Maxwell is faster, but hey, in two more years I'll be upgrading the whole rig, but I'll be in the same predicament then too. Upgrade with the tax return, so I'll have to get whatever card is in the $500 price point in 2016. <p> asmodyus</p> <p>I think the rumors currently have it targeted for Q3 or Q4 end of the year more or less.</p> <p><br /> <br />Ok, thanks! That really sucks that it's going to take that long, and now Nvidia looks like they're switching the way they do things. It's not fair that us desktop users are at the bottom now. I understand that mobile devices are selling the most, but it's sort of screwing us. I say that because I won't have that money during that time. I'll only have it for tax time and can only wait 2 to 3 months at most or else my wife WILL spend it, so I'll have to get the 780 I imagine.</p>
 
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/20 16:51:31
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Hey guys,
There is one thing which makes me wanna hang Nvidia for - the 256 bit memory interface - now if this is part of their "performance efficiency" then they are being a bit too MEAN here with their limitations. Also, what's the problem with making cards work at max 300W? Why decrease wattage to 150W as i saw on some rumors? Nobody cares about electricity anyways, what's the point of being "power friendly"? We WANT THE PERFORMANCE!
On top of that TSMC are busy with Apples A8 chips for their "new" crappy iPhone 6, which i guess many want it more than Maxwell GPUs... (omg what's their problem with giving the chips to Samsung like before :O?) so the 20nm architecture is likely to be delayed till late 2014 and early 2015.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 06:06:25
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Hello, I am thinking maybe mid next year, I don't think we are seeing enough competition from AMD at this point for NVidia to release high end Maxwell cards, which is also good for us since it will keep prices in check 
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 06:25:49
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AMD barely keep some normal distance. It's more than year GK110 on market and AMD 5 months. OK NVIDIA launch first GK110 in time of HD7970 without full cores, but that was only question of their decision not question are they capable to oppose with Titan Black vs HD7970. That would be funny. And now after year AMD with newest chip can't win over GK110. I think NVIDIA is only few months, maybe 3-4-5 far from premium Maxwell chip, I mean to finish him, not to present him. I think at least 40% stronger than Titan Black.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 08:51:29
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Don't think we'll see high-end Maxwell before end of 2015. Performance (mid-range) Maxwell cards are already delayed until end of this year so high-end cards will come out even later.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 12:34:37
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 13:39:22
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Don't forget that the 640-core die in GTX750 Ti is 50% smaller than the 576-core die in GTX645, which translates into way less power consumption ( 60W versus 130W); so even at 28nm, nVidia can do real damage with a bigger Maxwell die. There is some circumstantial evidence to suggest exactly that possibility. Don't loose hope or start doom-saying just because rumors suggest AMD will debut 20nm before nVidia; I'm sure a midrange 28nm Maxwell will still outperform GK110 while using as much or less power and everyone here will act like the coincidence was a planned win.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 16:01:46
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guys i just have one word for you : graphene! i do believe they (Samsung) finally mastered this material at atomic level and we could be seeing it FINALLY implemented in electronics cause we all know silicon is due it's time. Silicon is old dusty history compared to graphene. there is only 2 questions remaining : did they fully mastered it? and... if so how soon will it be implemented? Source: http://www.extremetech.co...nto-real-world-devices Thank you Samsung.. now make something out of it! IBM already has working patented graphene CPU's!!
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/04/21 18:49:55
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For me is not so important who will first made 20nm.
Only performance of cards. This situation will prolong life of GK110. I knew waiting Maxwell is not smart decision, and now I still think people who need power and want upgrade best option is to go on GTX780Ti or Titan Black and than during end of 2015 or 2016 to upgrade on something better if they need performance.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/28 02:01:20
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lol I have GTX 550Ti... I wonder is it worth upgrading to 780 and then get Maxwell or should i jump straight at Maxwell SLI GTX 880s (i need that for gaming at 3D on 1440p monitor) and pair it with Haswell-E 6 or 8 core. With that GTX 550Ti is actually hard to get higher FPS.
Well if Maxwell is really planned for January 2015 then it would be a long wait, might be worth getting a Kepler card (even though i will be making a bottleneck with my old Core2 Quad)
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/28 05:36:00
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Well with products like the TitanZ coming, now the GTX 780 6gb, rumors of a 780 TI 6gb. I am guessing late and when they get the fab right to the point they can make it profitable. If we see a fact of a new GTX 780 Ti 6gb or a 790 then we know Maxwell is going to be late to the party. The GTX 750 Maxwell was pretty much a test run, along with lets get a little profit out of this, and make a bit of money on the initial Nvidia test runs of probably just seeing if they can having a working product. My guess will be late, if your holding back waiting but not having a good gaming experience on your current hardware by your own expectations. You may want to consider a GTX 780 TI you will not be disappointed. Also if your other hardware is a bit old on the times you can get a z87 setup at a reasonable price as well, the new i7 4xxx cpus are very nice I am loving my 4770k fast cheap replacement over my core i7 970.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/29 02:40:02
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Well with products like the TitanZ coming, now the GTX 780 6gb, rumors of a 780 TI 6gb. I am guessing late and when they get the fab right to the point they can make it profitable. If we see a fact of a new GTX 780 Ti 6gb or a 790 then we know Maxwell is going to be late to the party. The GTX 750 Maxwell was pretty much a test run, along with lets get a little profit out of this, and make a bit of money on the initial Nvidia test runs of probably just seeing if they can having a working product. My guess will be late, if your holding back waiting but not having a good gaming experience on your current hardware by your own expectations. You may want to consider a GTX 780 TI you will not be disappointed.
Also if your other hardware is a bit old on the times you can get a z87 setup at a reasonable price as well, the new i7 4xxx cpus are very nice I am loving my 4770k fast cheap replacement over my core i7 970.
No Kepler cards are enough powerful to dig a 120FPS on every single game at 1440p resolution (since that's what i need for a perfect Stereoscopic 3D Vision). Even on SLI, they still can't. And now that Titan Black can barely get a 60FPS on Watch Dogs on benchmarks which disappointed me so much, i have no other choice but to wait for Maxwell and get 2 flagship cards. At least, in that case, I will beat Titan Z in performance (assuming that the GTX 880 will truly have 3200 CUDA cores and will be good overclocker), then I will maybe be able to get my 120FPS. I know that lots of games are not optimized well but what can u do in this case? I don't want Kepler, no way. Performance of 28nm chip is not enough. 20nm should be. My concern is that Maxwell flagship might not be out by January. Disappointing and weak Kepler, go away already!
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/29 09:06:27
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Now even two Titan Black or KP Classified can't get 120fps without fps drop on 1440p.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/29 09:14:17
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Now even two Titan Black or KP Classified can't get 120fps without fps drop on 1440p.
You can't really blame that on NVIDIA video cards. I expect you'll see better results with the new motherboards and CPUs arriving soon.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/05/29 14:54:37
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Now even two Titan Black or KP Classified can't get 120fps without fps drop on 1440p.
Of course they can't. The games need to be optimized (which very little are) and then it's kind of possible, but...life is just not fair rjohnson11
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Now even two Titan Black or KP Classified can't get 120fps without fps drop on 1440p.
You can't really blame that on NVIDIA video cards. I expect you'll see better results with the new motherboards and CPUs arriving soon.
Yeah it's not really Nvidia, lol actually it's them (part of) - they are the ones who pay to game developers actually huge money just to keep the optimization down so that people buy more cards for more performance. On the other hand, Sony and Microsoft pay them to optimize games for consoles...so in the end what happens? Why would some game developers limit the game on a minimum RAM when the game actually uses 2 GB instead of [6GB as minlimit]? That's just business....
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/11 15:19:24
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People what can we do to stop NVIDIA to ask 1000-1200$ for their premium cards. I think we will see one very bad scenario with Maxwell. NVIDIA will launch GTX880 and GTX880Ti as GM204 probably. Price could go up to 700$. I don't want to even think how much will cost GM210 Big Maxwell or Project Denver or Titan II or how they call such card. Premium chip from EVGA Classified could reach 1100$ easy and that's insane and I don't know what can NVIDIA offer as less CUDA for lower price but some people don't want even to think about such card. Full or nothing. Some people didn't saw this year chance and how strong card they get for 700$ with less video memory. I would gladly to sacrifice again video memory for premium card max 780e. But something tell me we will see GM210 only as 1000-1200$ models and that price will not drop more than 50$ before Volta. That would be very very bad for NVIDIA this time if Radeon launch similar thing for 550-600$. People will not tolerate any more. I hear over net voice of people who bought GTX780Ti and Titan and Titan Black, OK they are satisfied with cards but compare with AMD they say simply they don't want to pay more than 500$ for similar performance if someone offer. NVIDIA can't any more to talk about drivers because even their drivers are not as before, cards show artifacts as NVIDIA known problem not random problems, easy I think kingdom start to fall because several bad estimates. Something must be done in future. Or NVIDIA will stay as choice of 10% rich who don't care for money. Even they didn't bite Titan Z. That's maybe worse estimate in history of GPU, 3.000$ price of one Dual GeForce. How we jump from 950$ to 3.000$ for one generation for Dual Graphics nobody know to give answer.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/11 19:40:19
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Something must be done in future. Something can be done now, it is called boycott. The problem is that while those of us that can't afford nVidia's new pricing strategy speak with our wallets and not get it, many practice that-- those who can afford it also speak with their wallets and remains the whole reason nVidia will continue to offer such pricey products. Companies only hear money; for us to change their strategy = stop giving them our money; but that would mean giving up on EVGA and many won't, proving no substance to their rants. Vlada011Or NVIDIA will stay as choice of 10% rich who don't care for money. Prerogative? We certainly don't have anything to explain to people that can't afford our PC budgets equivalent to mortgage or rent or even the monthly salary of many people around the world, do we? So why should someone that could afford a $3,000 graphics card get ridiculed like they saw a UFO in the sky? It is none of our business and makes us look jealous, nothing more. Get over it; it is certainly not my prerogative, but I will defend their right to get whatever they want. Vlada011
Even they didn't bite Titan Z. That's maybe worse estimate in history of GPU, 3.000$ price of one Dual GeForce.
How we jump from 950$ to 3.000$ for one generation for Dual Graphics nobody know to give answer. C'mon man, you act like there is a gun to our heads just because they list the prices that high: We don't have to get it and nVidia doesn't expect anyone but the target market to jump in. Anyone who thinks they have to have the best for less is already a moron and I don't have sympathy for their "If I can't have it, no one should" attitude-- nVidia simply identified a market higher than high-end immune to the economic recession, whoop-dee do and I don't have a problem even though I don't have a vested interest. Why? Because everyone has the right to do as they please with their money and no one is stupid for not agreeing with a poor majority that feels left out.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/12 00:01:03
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Yes but such prices not help to PC gaming any more. We cross from 500$ to 1000$ for top graphic cards for 3 years and over world every year is less and less PC gamers. I think about self. I can kill myself if NVIDIA launch next card reference for 1000$ because card with lover price will be 10-15% stronger than mine. And that mean custom will be 1100$. What if AMD offer for 600$ with 5% less power stronger in 30% of games? Do you understand me, for me no reason to upgrade on NVIDIA card except successor of Titan Black and how much he can cost or Volta. Lot of people think same over net. Until Volta show up I will need to pay almost full price for graphic card, but if Titan successor price is OK I can pay only half of money because I will sell mine. But price go up and up.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/12 14:42:19
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Lets hope nvidia change their path, evga are nvidia exclusive.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/12 15:24:22
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I hope so because I want Titan II Classified model.
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Re: When Will Nvidia Release the Higher End Maxwell Cards??
2014/07/13 11:02:50
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lehpronC'mon man, you act like there is a gun to our heads just because they list the prices that high: We don't have to get it and nVidia doesn't expect anyone but the target market to jump in. Anyone who thinks they have to have the best for less is already a moron and I don't have sympathy for their "If I can't have it, no one should" attitude-- nVidia simply identified a market higher than high-end immune to the economic recession, whoop-dee do and I don't have a problem even though I don't have a vested interest. Why? Because everyone has the right to do as they please with their money and no one is stupid for not agreeing with a poor majority that feels left out.
I agree. NVIDIA can price their products as they see fit. If we as users cannot afford the products, we don't purchase them - it's simple as that. It's a free market and if cards like the TITAN Z are priced so that only a few dozen are sold around the world and NVIDIA is happy with that number of sales, then so be it. If not, then they can lower the price or discontinue the product. It isn't up to any company to price high end graphics cards so that every 12-year old gamer can afford to buy one on a tiny weekly allowance. A person might like to own a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, but just because most people in the world could never afford to buy one doesn't mean that Bugatti should lower the astronomical price of the car so that everyone in the neighborhood can own one.
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