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2014/04/16 22:35:17 (permalink)
Garage door openers.
Seriously.
The Union Local 693 Wants to argue over who and by whom the garage doors can be opened.
http://www.firerescue1.co...ories&nlid=1886351

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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/16 23:03:00 (permalink)
     
    That's crazy.

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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/16 23:40:56 (permalink)
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    Garage door openers.
    Seriously.
    The Union Local 693 Wants to argue over who and by whom the garage doors can be opened.
    http://www.firerescue1.co...ories&nlid=1886351


    Its not really about the garage door....its a tactic. I have a few guesses why they are doing it, but I don't know enough about the whole situation to comment further. Its kinda like when a woman wants to get a restraining order on a man and they start calling the cops on every fart he makes, so theres a paper trail. You gotta look at the story for what it isn't, not for what it is.  :)

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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 00:42:36 (permalink)
    Sounds like an 80-20 rule violation. 80% of the time, 20% of the people are the problem.
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 04:06:48 (permalink)
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    Garage door openers.
    Seriously.
    The Union Local 693 Wants to argue over who and by whom the garage doors can be opened.
    http://www.firerescue1.co...ories&nlid=1886351


    Its not really about the garage door....its a tactic. I have a few guesses why they are doing it, but I don't know enough about the whole situation to comment further. Its kinda like when a woman wants to get a restraining order on a man and they start calling the cops on every fart he makes, so theres a paper trail. You gotta look at the story for what it isn't, not for what it is.  :)


    exactly unions always have a ulterior motives to there moves you have to too get around politics!

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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 06:11:26 (permalink)
    Big Firetruck is bigger than said garage door, make new garage door with big truck.
     
    No more problem!
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 06:42:42 (permalink)
    I am a firefighter, and this does seem odd. Our trucks have their own openers, I can't imagine relying on dispatch to do it for me, much less trust a police dispatcher. Still I understand the labor dispute part of it, if the contract says the police dispatchers must open their doors, then the contract has to be followed. If one part of the contact is allowed to be violated (even if it logical to do so), then it opens the union to the risk other articles will be violated as well. It is the principle rather the issue itself.
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 08:46:00 (permalink)
    This is insane.. our local FD dont rely on anyone else. They open the doors themselves. The fact that this was even implemented in the first place is crazy. Hit a button, drive out.
     
    Thats like having my neighbor being the one to open my door.... lol
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 08:57:57 (permalink)
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    I am a firefighter, and this does seem odd. Our trucks have their own openers, I can't imagine relying on dispatch to do it for me, much less trust a police dispatcher. Still I understand the labor dispute part of it, if the contract says the police dispatchers must open their doors, then the contract has to be followed. If one part of the contact is allowed to be violated (even if it logical to do so), then it opens the union to the risk other articles will be violated as well. It is the principle rather the issue itself.

    I am a member of the Fire Service also.
    But, I WOULD NEVER let something like Union Rules or a contract dispute over who has the right to open a garage door tarnish the Fire Service.
    If that were the case here, THE UNION WOULD GET THE BOOT.
    We in the Fire Service need to call BS on Union rules or Contract Rules that make us look like Idiots in front of the public we serve.
    If we do not, the public will loose respect for us, and then, the Fire service will loose respect and funding.
    Allowing a union to determine what a Fire Department or an EMS worker can do or how it can be done is flat out wrong. That was never the purpose of the union, and anyone who has agreed to let a union tell them what and how they can do what they do gets what they deserve.
    If you are in the Fire Service and you allow Union control of your actions, Please, take the name Fire Department off your station so people doent think the rest of us are idiots too.
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 10:17:35 (permalink)
    Still sounds dumb to me!
     
    Alot of public places here, have locked keyboxes on the front doors, and local PD, Fire Depts have universal keys for those locked keyboxes. Also, why would anyone want to take any control away from the fire depts, these guys shouldnt have any restraints or BS/interference to deal with, let em do their jobs stupid politicians......................
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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 10:22:18 (permalink)
    This is actually how ALL unions operate. When I was living in one of the strongest union states I had to wait for someone to pick something up off of the ground in order for me to continue my job. It doesn't matter if there is trash in my work area when I picked it up I actually was called a scab people in unions are sheep and manipulated in getting rid of their free thought.

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    Re: Lockport N.Y. Firefighters Union Local 693 goes to battle over.............. 2014/04/17 19:52:17 (permalink)
    This is actually how ALL unions operate. When I was living in one of the strongest union states I had to wait for someone to pick something up off of the ground in order for me to continue my job. It doesn't matter if there is trash in my work area when I picked it up I actually was called a scab people in unions are sheep and manipulated in getting rid of their free thought.

     
    Screw that!
     
    No wonder these kids these days cant think for them selves! Ive never been in a Union, sounds like even more BS than BS admin to me!
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