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2016/11/03 07:18:18 (permalink)
Can anyone identify the parts circle below?  I ask support but the first person told me this wasn't a picture of an EVGA product.  Someone else told me that #2 is the part described in step #9 but looks nothing like that part (it's missing from my kit).  They also claim that #1 are thermal pads even though they are no thicker than ordinary tape.  I've been going back and forth with support for over a day and am nowhere closer to figuring this out.  Thank you.
 


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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 07:29:59 (permalink)
    My guess is that the first one is tape that you can use to tape the wires to the shroud. The 2nd one looks like piece thats holding the tubes in place.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 07:36:02 (permalink)
    One looks like Thermal or Electrical Tape that goes on the Back Plat the sits above the Power Connectors down to the bottom of the card.
    I would think it is to stop any kink of short on the Power.
    The other or number 2 may lay on the VRM on the Back of the Card between the Card and the Back Plate.
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 07:39:04 (permalink)
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    One looks like Thermal Tape that goes on the Back Plat the sits above the Power Connectors down to the bottom of the card.
    I would think it is to stop any kink of short on the Power.
    The other or number 2 may lay on the VRM on the Back of the Card between the Card and the Back Plate.


    I suppose but neither of those are listed in the instructions anywhere.
     
    Jyrtzy
    My guess is that the first one is tape that you can use to tape the wires to the shroud. The 2nd one looks like piece thats holding the tubes in place.


    I enlarged the image and it looks like 5 separate pieces of sticky-backed foam of some sort.  I don't think it's the rubber piece the hoses go through.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 08:49:50 (permalink)
    Jyrtzy
    My guess is that the first one is tape that you can use to tape the wires to the shroud. The 2nd one looks like piece thats holding the tubes in place.




    Ding Ding Ding. That's exactly what those are.


     
     


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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 15:35:03 (permalink)
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    My guess is that the first one is tape that you can use to tape the wires to the shroud. The 2nd one looks like piece thats holding the tubes in place.




    Ding Ding Ding. That's exactly what those are.


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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 20:30:21 (permalink)
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    My guess is that the first one is tape that you can use to tape the wires to the shroud. The 2nd one looks like piece thats holding the tubes in place.




    Ding Ding Ding. That's exactly what those are.


    I don't think so.  Here's a photo with a fan screw for scale.

     
    Oh and support still has no idea what these parts are.
    post edited by Jimbo2112 - 2016/11/03 20:33:16

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 20:36:06 (permalink)
    I am not sure what the black piece is. Is it like a foam or something? What's it made of?
     
    I just got my kit in and I don't have anything like that. All I have that looks like that is the rubber piece that holds the tubes in place. The tape is just extra for holding down the wires if you want to out of the way of the fan.
     
    I'm wondering if it's a piece of foam that broke away from the packaging or something.
     
    Regardless, it doesn't look like it would be used in this kit at all. I don't see anywhere where this would be used.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 20:38:45 (permalink)
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    I am not sure what the black piece is. Is it like a foam or something? What's it made of?
     
     

    It is foam and sticky-backed and was in a ziplock bag by itself.  It is way too small to hold the tubes.  Besides, that piece is already accounted for.  The tube holder piece is rubber and much larger.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/03 20:41:37 (permalink)
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    I am not sure what the black piece is. Is it like a foam or something? What's it made of?
     
     

    It is foam and sticky-backed and was in a ziplock bag by itself.  It is way too small to hold the tubes.  Besides, that piece is already accounted for.  The tube holder piece is rubber and much larger.




    Yeah, you know what... I just checked my kit and I have one too. Nothing in the instructions goes over this piece. I haven't used my kit yet, but I was going to build it up tomorrow night. I'll try to report back if I figure it out. It's a little too late for me to get into it right now. Sorry I can't help right now.
     
    Edit: All I can think of in the mean time is that the two "dots" of foam are suppose to serve as vibration dampeners or something. I wonder if someone else has done this kit before and can chime in...
    post edited by kriswitak - 2016/11/03 20:44:52

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/04 20:18:49 (permalink)
    I just installed the kit. It's definitely tape for the wires and the rubber is for the houses through the shroud. The thermal pad above power connector isc the long skinny one in the bottom of the shot.

    Edit. I just checked my parts and I do not have a small foam piece. My card runs great and the install was a breeze. I didn't use any of the parts in the box either. The original screws work fine..
    post edited by Tandin420 - 2016/11/04 20:24:06
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/04 20:23:37 (permalink)
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    I just installed the kit. It's definitely tape for the wires and the rubber is for the houses through the shroud. The thermal pad above power connector isc the long skinny one in the bottom of the shot.

    Like I told support and several people here already, it's not made of rubber.  It's foam with a sticky back and is way too small to be the rubber piece you're talking about.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/04 20:27:53 (permalink)
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    I just installed the kit. It's definitely tape for the wires and the rubber is for the houses through the shroud. The thermal pad above power connector isc the long skinny one in the bottom of the shot.

    Like I told support and several people here already, it's not made of rubber.  It's foam with a sticky back and is way too small to be the rubber piece you're talking about.


    Yeah sorry, I looked at your second pic and just edited my original post. Mine didn't have that and install went great..I used all original screws. Only thing out of the box I used was the vram plate, the cold plate, the shroud, the vrm heatsink and then I used original screws and put it together. There is a hybrid teardown video gamersnexus did that will show you how it goes together. It's really easy. 2 screws in the back plate don't go back in so don't panic, they are missing in the photo too, and the midplate also stays off...
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/04 21:30:38 (permalink)
    I figured it out!
     
    I just finished installing my hybrid kit.
     
    If you look on the back of the back plate, there are several of these foam "dots". This pad is meant to have the foam dots 'break away' and use as extras in case any of the 'dots' fell off of the back plate. They give extra clearance for the back plate and the back of the video card so it doesn't short it out. They are nothing but spacers, and if they didn't fall off of your backplate (mine didn't), then you are fine.
     
    Case closed fellas! We did it.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 06:32:35 (permalink)
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    I figured it out!
     
    I just finished installing my hybrid kit.
     
    If you look on the back of the back plate, there are several of these foam "dots". This pad is meant to have the foam dots 'break away' and use as extras in case any of the 'dots' fell off of the back plate. They give extra clearance for the back plate and the back of the video card so it doesn't short it out. They are nothing but spacers, and if they didn't fall off of your backplate (mine didn't), then you are fine.
     
    Case closed fellas! We did it.


    Support doesn't agree.  Here's my last email from them:
     
    "It is foam rubber use to help as a spacer to be put near the cooling block in between the tubes as you should be able to see the half moon cut outs on each side. Witch can also be used to guide the wire out as well. This piece is theoretically optional and not vital to the installation."

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 07:24:08 (permalink)
    I think you are stressing out too much about this. Did you watch the gamernexus tear down video?? I've never took a gpu apart and thought the directions were bad and it still took me under half hour to compete. Card never breaks 44c now with 2.134 oc. Been running like a beast now, I did change the fan with 2 noctua fans though. And again I did not have weird foam piece as a part.
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 07:30:12 (permalink)
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    I think you are stressing out too much about this. Did you watch the gamernexus tear down video?? I've never took a gpu apart and thought the directions were bad and it still took me under half hour to compete. Card never breaks 44c now with 2.134 oc. Been running like a beast now, I did change the fan with 2 noctua fans though. And again I did not have weird foam piece as a part.

    It's not every day I tear apart a nearly $700 video card so yeah, I'm a little tentative about it.  Add to the fact that the instructions are garbage and support can't even give me an answer as to what these parts are.  One told me the tape was thermal pads.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 07:31:59 (permalink)
    I understand, and felt the same way. The tear down video really help build my confidence. I didn't use that tape either. It's pretty easy once you get into it. Again, not trying to be rude, but did you watch the video??
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 07:52:08 (permalink)
    Again, not trying to be rude, but did you watch the video??

    Nope. Does it show how to assemble the hybrid kit because that's what I'm looking for.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 07:54:54 (permalink)
    It shows a tear down of the gtx ftw 1080 hybrid, which is the same kit on the card pre installed. So you can watch him take all the pieces off that you are going to put on. Not sure how else I can help you buddy. I was very apprehensive myself, but it was way easier than I anticipated. I wish I would have made a video while I did it. If you have any questions I can try and help....
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/05 14:23:38 (permalink)
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    I figured it out!
     
    I just finished installing my hybrid kit.
     
    If you look on the back of the back plate, there are several of these foam "dots". This pad is meant to have the foam dots 'break away' and use as extras in case any of the 'dots' fell off of the back plate. They give extra clearance for the back plate and the back of the video card so it doesn't short it out. They are nothing but spacers, and if they didn't fall off of your backplate (mine didn't), then you are fine.
     
    Case closed fellas! We did it.


    Support doesn't agree.  Here's my last email from them:
     
    "It is foam rubber use to help as a spacer to be put near the cooling block in between the tubes as you should be able to see the half moon cut outs on each side. Witch can also be used to guide the wire out as well. This piece is theoretically optional and not vital to the installation."




    Dude, I'm telling you what they are. If you don't believe me, take off the backplate of the video card and compare the dots to the ones that are already on the underside of the back plate. It's an optional part if your foam dots on the underside of the backplate aren't missing. If you aren't going to listen to people who are going out of their way to help you, then that's fine, best of luck to you.

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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/10 03:55:32 (permalink)
    I am about to install my Hybrid kit on my FTW and I have a question about the rad fan connection.
     
    I see that the wire leads from the pump and it is a 2 pin connector. Does this mean there will be no control over the fan speed on the rad fan if I were to use this connector?
    If I change out the rad fan, which I am planning to do, and replace it with a 4 pin PWM fan, what do I do with that lead wire coming from the pump as I would then  need to connect my new rad fan to the MB.
    Can I just wrap it around the tubes and leave it unconnected?
     
    2, The sink fan and pump are on the same power connector, 4 pin. Do I have control over the speed of that fan/pump?
     
    3. Also,cananyone confirm  the thickness of the thermalpad on the heat sink please. Does it make good contact with the mosfets? I am replacing it with a 17w/mk variety and need to confirm thickness.
     
    Thanks
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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/10 04:09:24 (permalink)
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    I am about to install my Hybrid kit on my FTW and I have a question about the rad fan connection.
     
    I see that the wire leads from the pump and it is a 2 pin connector. Does this mean there will be no control over the fan speed on the rad fan if I were to use this connector?
    If I change out the rad fan, which I am planning to do, and replace it with a 4 pin PWM fan, what do I do with that lead wire coming from the pump as I would then  need to connect my new rad fan to the MB.
    Can I just wrap it around the tubes and leave it unconnected?
     
    2, The sink fan and pump are on the same power connector, 4 pin. Do I have control over the speed of that fan/pump?
     
    Thanks




    The stock fan has no way to control it. You can use a 4 pin PWM fan on your mobo to control the fan. That will work. You can then leave that 3 pin wire from the card disconnected. Just bundle it up and hide it the best you can. 
     
    I upgraded to a EK Vardar fan that is pretty quiet. It runs a full speed 24/7 and I can't hear it over the case fans. Depending how loud the rest of your system is, this might work for you too. The higher static pressure is a bonus as well.
     
    You also can't control the pump speed. I may be wrong but I believe the pump runs at a static speed regardless. The only fan you can control on the card is the blower fan via MSI AB or EVGA Precision. 


     
     


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    Re: FTW Hybrid Kit installation questions 2016/11/10 04:14:26 (permalink)
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    I am about to install my Hybrid kit on my FTW and I have a question about the rad fan connection.
     
    I see that the wire leads from the pump and it is a 2 pin connector. Does this mean there will be no control over the fan speed on the rad fan if I were to use this connector?
    If I change out the rad fan, which I am planning to do, and replace it with a 4 pin PWM fan, what do I do with that lead wire coming from the pump as I would then  need to connect my new rad fan to the MB.
    Can I just wrap it around the tubes and leave it unconnected?
     
    2, The sink fan and pump are on the same power connector, 4 pin. Do I have control over the speed of that fan/pump?
     
    Thanks




    The stock fan has no way to control it. You can use a 4 pin PWM fan on your mobo to control the fan. That will work. You can then leave that 3 pin wire from the card disconnected. Just bundle it up and hide it the best you can. 
     
    I upgraded to a EK Vardar fan that is pretty quiet. It runs a full speed 24/7 and I can't hear it over the case fans. Depending how loud the rest of your system is, this might work for you too. The higher static pressure is a bonus as well.
     
    You also can't control the pump speed. I may be wrong but I believe the pump runs at a static speed regardless. The only fan you can control on the card is the blower fan via MSI AB or EVGA Precision. 




    Thanks
     
    As I thought regarding the rad fan.
    But in Precision/AB will the sinkfan/pump be recognized separately/indivdually? As they are both on the same power connector, playing with speed control in those would effect the pump as well as the fan would it not?
    Also, please check my previous post for additonal question I added.
     
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