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I bought an EVGA FTW1080 and dissapointed in it at all. It has coil whine issue, the working temperatures is too high, and it cant reach stable 2088+ clocks, 2076 only with +100 voltage, but with additional voltage is heated much more and thtrottling to 2050. Why for that card has 10 phases, if the cooling system cand handle the stock clocks temperatures, GPU chips wasnt at quality controll, and it cant be OC'd at all? I'm dissapointed, really. And question - if i change the thermal paste (to liquid metal) - my warrianty be cancelled?
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 11:56:24
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Do not use liquid metal. If it gets on anything else, your warranty will be void and it doesn't help enough over normal thermal paste. Use gelin extreme, Artic mx-4, kryonaut thermal grizzly or some other non conductive paste.
Also, researching a card before assuming is always best. With minimal research, you would know that 10 phase design does very little/nothing for air cooling. Further research would have uncovered that voltage does very little/nothing for further overclocking as well. This has been discussed a lot and the results are always the exact same.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:17:05
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☼ Best Answerby ATRedline 2016/08/14 12:20:06
It's not a failure. You were just unlucky with silicon lottery. It can run at the speed eVGA advertised it
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:19:16
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>Do not use liquid metal. If it gets on anything else, your warranty will be void So, warranty woldnt be voided because of changing of thermal paste? >With minimal research, you would know that 10 phase design does very little/nothing for air cooling. Further research would have uncovered that voltage does very little/nothing for further overclocking as well. This has been discussed a lot and the results are always the exact same. Then, what the differenses between SC and **** version? I thougt what **** will be good at OC, but it cant be good, because of it weak cooling solution, because of quality of the GPU chip (its the same as in SC). And the coil whining... So sad((
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:24:51
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richurd, the deal is not only in sillicon lottery (but in the FTW version, i expected the better chip than in SC, ACX3.0 and FE versions of cards, if is not so, so that the differenes between FTW and SC?), the deal is in cooling solution! It cant handle OC! it going to 72 degreas in UNIGINE HEVEN, when the card not loaded at all, at stock clocks. And to stop temperatures growing at OC to 2050-2073 at 74 degree at Battlefield 4 - i was pusshed the coolers of card to 85%, and case fans to 100%. Terrible
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:25:17
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I like Arctic MX-4, but I like video cards with dual fan coolers even more
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:27:47
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veganfanatic, i have MX4, and i also have liquid metal. Last usually gives few degreas of difference with MX4
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:35:31
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The FTW version has a larger power delivery system for more exotic cooling solutions. The RGB is also included. The Cores on the FE, the SCC, the FTW, the reference and all other cards are exactly the same cores, and are all met with the same limitations. You say the cooler is at fault. 72 degrees is not hot or even near the limit. Every Pascal cards starts reducing clocks at 60c, and then slowly reduces up to the minimal boost clock advertised which is 1860. You keep saying 2050 mhz.. the card is not advertised to run at that clock, so getting there is a good thing and you should be happy with it. To get a better understanding of your system, you need to provide more details. What case fans are you running, how many, are how many intake and how many exhaust, what CPU cooler are you using and is it adding to the heat in the case. The coil whine is frustrating and not good for your ears, but it does not hurt the card at all.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:47:27
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Scarlet-Tech The FTW version has a larger power delivery system for more exotic cooling solutions. The RGB is also included. The Cores on the FE, the SCC, the FTW, the reference and all other cards are exactly the same cores, and are all met with the same limitations. You say the cooler is at fault. 72 degrees is not hot or even near the limit. Every Pascal cards starts reducing clocks at 60c, and then slowly reduces up to the minimal boost clock advertised which is 1860. You keep saying 2050 mhz.. the card is not advertised to run at that clock, so getting there is a good thing and you should be happy with it. To get a better understanding of your system, you need to provide more details. What case fans are you running, how many, are how many intake and how many exhaust, what CPU cooler are you using and is it adding to the heat in the case. The coil whine is frustrating and not good for your ears, but it does not hurt the card at all.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 12:48:48
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I like to look at the power delivery as having "little powerplants." A normal card has 5+1 (5 little powerplants for the gpu; 1 little powerplant for the VRAM). These can take a certain amount of abuse before they cry due to either power, heat, or other abuse. As you move up, you get to FTW (10+2) and Classified (14+3). The more of these little powerplants you have, the more stress that the GPU can potentially take (assuming the core is up to it per the silicon lottery), or the more "reserve" you have for cleaner power delivery if you're a boring person like me. (Having a Classy that just bounces right up to 2025MHz boost and sits at 2012MHz or 2GHz worst case scenario is awesome!!) As for my CPU cooler, it's an H100i v2, and I'm thinking about putting it into push-pull to improve airflow to the GPU. As for better chips, I think (not certain, just THINK) that only classies are binned in any way (although my 780 Ti Classy had an ASIC of 64.6%), and only the 980 Ti KPE was guaranteed binned (at a massive premium that got more massive as you moved up the "guaranteed ASIC" ranks). Personally, I'm not complaining about my classy. It's not going to lose it's OC virginity for a while (if ever).
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 13:09:10
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>You say the cooler is at fault. 72 degrees is not hot or even near the limit. 72 degrees in Unigine Valley, its cant load card to 100%, but 77-79 in battledield 4 Singleplayer (may be more in multiplayer). >Every Pascal cards starts reducing clocks at 60c, and then slowly reduces up to the minimal boost clock advertised which is 1860. And this is most sadly. Some of other manufactures can doing the cooling systems, what can prevent temperature grooving after 70c, to prevent thermal trottling. I dont care, whats the limit of pascal, then i buy such card as FTW - i care only core clocks what i can reach, and the cooling system - the first thing what make abilyty for good OC. If i'll want to saw to thermalthrottling - i'll better get an FE version >To get a better understanding of your system, you need to provide more details. What case fans are you running, how many, are how many intake and how many exhaust, what CPU cooler are you using and is it adding to the heat in the case. its open stand, air conditioned room >The coil whine is frustrating and not good for your ears, but it does not hurt the card at all. Yep, but then i bought the card of 700eu price, and its make noise of coils - its very, very sad.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 13:49:29
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ATRedline veganfanatic, i have MX4, and i also have liquid metal. Last usually gives few degreas of difference with MX4
Only place I would use liquid metal is with permanently attached heatsinks such as the ones used on motherboard mounted logic etc with passive heat sinks I repaired a GTX 260 SC before I retired it in favor of some more recent cards, I regreased it with MX-4 which fixed the problem and the card still works fine The recent cards I have now feature 2 or more fans, and I will not buy a card with one anymore (unless it's that short only one fits) My HD 7870 comes with the DirectCU cooler, my GTX 660 Ti comes with what EVGA now calls ACX (dual fan) I do not want to regrease cards, i do not want them to suffer from overheating either
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 13:59:42
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Cool GTX, >Welcome to the forums ATRedline Thanks :) Or, what should i say?) >Need details of your PC build and Temps: CPU, GPU & room Open stand, air conditioned room
>warm enough to throttle is self defeating In pascal case, the adding of voltage allow the card to stay at higher boost on highter temps, for example, if i set +140 to core, than it takes 2114 by 60 to 70, and then reduce it to next level of boost. If i add the voltage to 100% (and the limit of coarse), then the card can stand 2114 to ~79 degrees, but it crashes because of my bad chip at 73-74d.
ganzosrevenge, man, its the theory, and in the practice, the 10+2 "powerplant" of FTW - gives nothing to usual user. The most sad part of that story, what in the pascal, the most avaible for OC card - the cards with the good cooling solutions. Unfortunately, as i understand - FTW cooling solution - is not good. Then the bios editors will be avaible, then maybe the increasing of voltage can help to OC card to standart pascal 2100+ overcklocking level, but i cant increase the voltage on FTW, because of its weak cooling.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:05:50
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Who know, the classified 1080 has same voltages and power limits in bios?
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:15:34
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normal power limits in BIOS 1: 122% normal power limits in BIOS 2: 130% (In 1080 Classy) Voltages: I'm not testing that... I'm chicken.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:22:55
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Atredline, use the quote feature. It makes it much easier to see what you are quoting. This is available on PC and on Mobile.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:24:36
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ganzosrevenge, can you dump the bios with 130% limit? Here is the screenshot how to do this: rgho.st/88pvgKN7c.view The last version of GPU-z: techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:26:08
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Scarlet-Tech Atredline, use the quote feature. It makes it much easier to see what you are quoting. This is available on PC and on Mobile.
Ok :) I was searching for this feature, but find it only now)
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:34:58
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ATRedline ganzosrevenge, can you dump the bios with 130% limit? Here is the screenshot how to do this: rgho.st/88pvgKN7c.view The last version of GPU-z: techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/
I will dump the BIOS as requested, but I take NO responsibility if your GPU bricks. If that's OK, I'll do it.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 14:40:24
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☄ Helpfulby ATRedline 2016/08/16 02:01:57
ATRedline ganzosrevenge, can you dump the bios with 130% limit? Here is the screenshot how to do this: rgho.st/88pvgKN7c.view The last version of GPU-z: techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/
I uploaded it.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 16:06:57
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Nö need to flash the classy Bios on an ftw - the 2nd Bios on the FTW also has a Power Target of 130%. /Edit : Except if the voltage are different :>
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 20:18:52
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Look the cooling on the FTW is not weak. I set an aggressive fan curve and pushed mine stable to 2113. My temps normally hang at 68c in a 75F house. The card I put into my buddy's computer is even better and holds 2138 on the primary bios. The OPs card is a victim of silicon lottery
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 20:23:37
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ganzosrevenge I uploaded it.
Hm, where is nothing in online database, strange. Maybe you can upload it to rgho.st?
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/14 20:50:19
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Does it work at the advertised specs? If so, you have nothing to complain about, you got exactly what you paid for.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/15 05:30:52
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Its been proven time and time again an open bench (even in an air conditioned room) does not cool as good as a case with good airflow. Even with AC the heat will only dissipate rather than be blow off and away from the system. I would suggest placing a fan to blow the hot air away from the GPU.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/15 06:56:30
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MikeBGeyer Its been proven time and time again an open bench (even in an air conditioned room) does not cool as good as a case with good airflow. Even with AC the heat will only dissipate rather than be blow off and away from the system. I would suggest placing a fan to blow the hot air away from the GPU.
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Re: FTW 1080 failure
2016/08/15 10:41:47
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I continued my tryings to overclock my FTW, today i'm tried to use EVGA PrecisionX, and with what soft it takes 2114 and more, with same options i used in MSI Afterburner, but with manual voltage graphic. Dont understand what the differences, but with precisionX it works at the same clock/voltage/power as MSI Afterburnier, but with afterburner driver crashes
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