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2016/04/26 17:55:37 (permalink)
I am trying to do a basic OC test and trying to put the core gpu clock offset to +100 MHz with the result of a crash. Anyone have any idea of why this may be happening? To my understanding is this should be about a standard on all cards. I have narrowed it down to a no crash scenario of +70 MHz. I at first thought it may have been driver related so removed the most current version 364.72 and dropped it to 364.51 to no avail with same result. Thanks ahead of time for any responses.
 
Evga x99 Classified
Intel I7 5960x
Evga Kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 18:12:54 (permalink)
    You may have found the limit. No matter the asic, no matter the card, every overclock is a lottery and whether it will be able to go far.

    Have you tried the other bios' that are on the card, or the bios that is available on Kingpincooling forums?
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 20:09:09 (permalink)
    I have a 74% asic 980ti that can't reliably hit 1410mhz.
     
    Luck of the draw friend. I could install another bios, but I'm just too lazy. It's the difference in 3 frames at best.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 21:08:49 (permalink)
    How high does it boost with +70 MHz on the core?
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 21:57:36 (permalink)
    I think that's not bad with so high clock, almost 1300MHz Base.
    That's nice binned chip...
    I think with some BIOS modification and 200-250mV voltage at least with waterblock of course she could work and on 1300MHz Base.
    Everything what need is nice custom BIOS and stable GeForce drivers.
      
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 22:29:38 (permalink)
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    I think that's not bad with so high clock, almost 1300MHz Base.
    That's nice binned chip...
    I think with some BIOS modification and 200-250mV voltage at least with waterblock of course she could work and on 1300MHz Base.
    Everything what need is nice custom BIOS and stable GeForce drivers.


    +1
    Sometimes custom firmware mods can help with stability. The card on the right required some "tinkering", while the card on the left was more compliant out of the box. Both cards are air-cooled.

    http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d5/d5f3a757_Capture3.PNG
    ASIC isn't an accurate indicator of a cards overclocking ability. Silicon lottery and all.
    post edited by DeathAngel74 - 2016/04/27 07:50:27

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/26 22:40:52 (permalink)
    Around 1380mhz
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/27 05:59:52 (permalink)
    Luck of the draw which everyone pretty much has already mentioned. Asic score means nothing. I have an ASIC score of 65% on my 980 (pathetic right? maybe to you), but I can score 150+ (highest i can go on it is 166) on the core clock (on air) and 250+ (highest 275) on the memory clock; all stable.
     
    The one thing we cannot forget is that the kingpin cards are already overclocked. So, there is not really a guarantee you would be able to squeeze anymore out of the cards. If you do, you're lucky, even on air. Which comes to the next question. Are you on air?
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/27 22:27:50 (permalink)
    I have done a little more research on the post that I had made. Yes, I am on air. Thanks to the forums provided by Scarlet Tech and on air you should expect a stable OC to be b/t hopefully 1-100mhz. It seems to be a standard on air with Kingpin 980ti 72%.
     
    From my previous post i have found that my most stable boost is +68 core GPU clock, though i will only run @50 due to the temp the card can get to and dont want to run it in the ground sooner than later. I watched the temp reach about 79C @ +68 on the GPU over a 30min interval with the fan on auto. Never hit the 80's though. If fan is @ 60% it keeps well lower(by about 5 degrees cooler) at 73-74C from what I watch via Firestrike extreme loop @ standard extreme settings(first graphics test repeat infinity). Even though i will be running on +50/+50 I will still have the fan on while gaming to around 50% to keep the card cooler than if it were on auto.  All test ran @ 2560x1440. I cannot do much more adjusting as if I do I receive invalid results from Firestrike due to invalid timing. Though I do get better results in numbers(Is that a bad thing?). I don't know what exactly causes the issue but didnt want to test to find out. I hope this thread helps some people in the future. Found my resolution in Scarlets reply. Thanks for all the reply's.
     
    Firestrike Extreme Score : 9349(+68 gpu core clock offset with +50 mem clock offset)
    Core clock 1,511 MHz
    Memory bus clock 1,798 MHz
    Firestrike Extreme Score : 9375(+68 gpu core clock with +70 mem clock offset)
    Core clock 1,511 MHz
    Memory bus clock 1,811 MHz
     
    "The cards clock range on AIR cooling using the default 980 Ti K|NGP|N cooler will vary and these are only guidelines of what the average card will do. ASIC level and ambient temps can have an impact on how high the card clocks on air. Every card will be different and ASIC is NOT a guarantee of anything, especially at air cooling. It is just a indicator as mentioned before. Generally, most cards with an ASIC of 70% or more should hit 1500 and up on air using DEFAULT CORE VOLTAGE. Cards with ASIC ranges up to 74% can hit the low 1500-1530's, and cards with ASIC of 76% and higher have the greatest chance usually to hit 1550 MHz+."
    -© K|NGP|N & TiN
    post edited by SweatNBlood247 - 2016/04/27 23:14:18
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/27 22:33:38 (permalink)
    Well, I tried to post the links to my results as well as the forum link and well you know. If anyone is interested in forum link or firestrike extreme results link, I can send them via message. I have not OC'ed at all in my time so this has been one heck of a learning curve. I will also note that this is with 120% power target. I have not messed with the voltage on the card as I don't want it to go poof.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 06:54:02 (permalink)
    Benchmarking is short fun.
    Best fun is when you install waterblock on fabric overclocked card as K|NGP|N and in most graphic demanding games max temperature 50C.
    Only small hum of air, nothing else.  No heat, no noise,... Enjoy in that card. 

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 07:52:00 (permalink)
    Benchmarking is fun when you get your first high end card. Then it gets old....stability over crazy high core clocks. Maybe its just me, lol. Enjoy your card, go play some games!

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 07:54:40 (permalink)
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    Benchmarking is fun when you get your first high end card. Then it gets old....stability over crazy high core clocks. Maybe its just me, lol. Enjoy your card, go play some games!


    It's not just you. I have the paid versions of 3DMark11 and 3DMark and I don't even bother running them any more. The thrill is gone!
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 07:56:31 (permalink)
    I ran firestrike, heaven, valley and catzilla once each after I built the new rig. I was like...meh framerates doubled...delete.....lol.

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:25:19 (permalink)
    I used to run both 3DMark11 and Firestrike just to see how much a new driver improved performance but that's it. Usually one benchmark goes up while the other goes down. Unigine benchmarks are good for looping to test for stability issues but other than that I don't like them. I'm not bothered by benchmark scores any more unless it is phenominal and I can edit my Mods-Rigs page with a higher score. I am mostly interested in stability and gaming performance now.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:27:06 (permalink)
    My wife tells me that's what happens as you get older, blah,blah,blah. After spending $2500 on a new computer I wanna play some games dammit. :)

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:35:12 (permalink)
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    My wife tells me that's what happens as you get older, blah,blah,blah. After spending $2500 on a new computer I wanna play some games dammit. :)

    I don't have a wife so all I have to keep myself occupied is my PC and games. Until they release a MP or co-op version of a benchmark I am no longer interested in them.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:36:57 (permalink)
    You can only run your gpu at 1700mhz for so long,lol. I'm happy that I can game at 1506.5mhz

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:46:10 (permalink)
    I benched at 1640 MHz but running that every day is going to have a serious impact on the lifespan of my video boards. I love my video boards and I want them to have a long and happy life. I am currently running at 1580 MHz at 1.275v and 150% Power Limit. I can notice how snappy my games are running compared to stock clocks so there is no turning back for me. These EK full cover waterblocks keep everything nice and cool too.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 08:49:46 (permalink)
    I can get mine to run at 1519 MHz 1.275v 176% power, on a cold day.

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 09:00:53 (permalink)
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    Well, I tried to post the links to my results as well as the forum link and well you know. If anyone is interested in forum link or firestrike extreme results link, I can send them via message. I have not OC'ed at all in my time so this has been one heck of a learning curve. I will also note that this is with 120% power target. I have not messed with the voltage on the card as I don't want it to go poof.


    I would be for your 3DMark Fire Strike:  31,771 but not the extreme scores.
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4302874 so all you need to post is this part  fs/4302874
    I will create a link for your 3DMark Fire Strike Score.
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 09:02:35 (permalink)
    The link pointed a result with 4 980's. Keeping comments to self from now on.
    post edited by DeathAngel74 - 2016/04/28 14:36:26

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 09:17:56 (permalink)
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    Dayum...4 980s o.O

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4750995 One GTX 980
    I only want to see the OP's standard Fire Strike my link was for an example (fs/4750995) of what the OP needs to post so that I can create a link to his score.

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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/28 18:04:43 (permalink)
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    Well, I tried to post the links to my results as well as the forum link and well you know. If anyone is interested in forum link or firestrike extreme results link, I can send them via message. I have not OC'ed at all in my time so this has been one heck of a learning curve. I will also note that this is with 120% power target. I have not messed with the voltage on the card as I don't want it to go poof.


    I would be for your 3DMark Fire Strike:   but not the extreme scores.
     so all you need to post is this part  fs/4302874
    I will create a link for your 3DMark Fire Strike Score.
    Thanks


     
    OP benchmarks via Firestrike Extreme:
    Score/gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%
    9,349 - +68/+50 - fs/8315816<120% power
    9 375 - +68/+70 - fs/8315835<120% power
     
    Increased Power Target to 150% to see what would happen and got these results today.
    9,501 - +68/+50 - fs/8323086<150% power/50%fan
    9,574 - +68/+70 - fs/8323132<150% power/50%fan
     
    Alright bcavnaugh I ran a couple additional benchmarks via Firestrike today.
    Score - gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%/fan%
    18,609 - +68/+70 - fs/8322770 <150% power/50%fan
    18,645 - +68 /+50 - fs/8322836 <150% power/50%fan<A little higher score than the above
    18,352 - +50/+50 - fs/8322869 <150% power/50% fan
    17,973 - 0/0 - fs/8322971 <150% power/50%fan< 62-63C on single run didn't do an extended time to see flatline temp point.
    17,913 - 0/0 - fs/8322926 <100% power/auto fan<my opinion gets too warm on a single run at around 74-75C don't know where it would flat line @. This is stock.
     
    All my test were performed with no addiditional voltage and on air. I don't know that much about the numbers, though it seems to be pretty good ones for a single card.
    Benchmark - have fun - play games
    post edited by SweatNBlood247 - 2016/04/28 18:14:05
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/29 10:50:04 (permalink)
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    Well, I tried to post the links to my results as well as the forum link and well you know. If anyone is interested in forum link or firestrike extreme results link, I can send them via message. I have not OC'ed at all in my time so this has been one heck of a learning curve. I will also note that this is with 120% power target. I have not messed with the voltage on the card as I don't want it to go poof.


    I would be for your 3DMark Fire Strike:   but not the extreme scores.
     so all you need to post is this part  fs/4302874
    I will create a link for your 3DMark Fire Strike Score.
    Thanks


     
    OP benchmarks via Firestrike Extreme:
    Score/gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%
    9,349 - +68/+50 - fs/8315816<120% power
    9 375 - +68/+70 - fs/8315835<120% power
     
    Increased Power Target to 150% to see what would happen and got these results today.
    9,501 - +68/+50 - fs/8323086<150% power/50%fan
    9,574 - +68/+70 - fs/8323132<150% power/50%fan
     
    Alright bcavnaugh I ran a couple additional benchmarks via Firestrike today.
    Score - gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%/fan%
    18,609 - +68/+70 - fs/8322770 <150% power/50%fan
    18,645 - +68 /+50 - fs/8322836 <150% power/50%fan<A little higher score than the above
    18,352 - +50/+50 - fs/8322869 <150% power/50% fan
    17,973 - 0/0 - fs/8322971 <150% power/50%fan< 62-63C on single run didn't do an extended time to see flatline temp point.
    17,913 - 0/0 - fs/8322926 <100% power/auto fan<my opinion gets too warm on a single run at around 74-75C don't know where it would flat line @. This is stock.
     
    All my test were performed with no addiditional voltage and on air. I don't know that much about the numbers, though it seems to be pretty good ones for a single card.
    Benchmark - have fun - play games


    I was going to say, that's quite a bit of information regarding you graphics card. So, how does it run during game time?

    EVGA X79 Dark
    2080 Black edition
    980
    EVGA 1000 gold PSU (Gold)
    4820K CPU
    16x G-skill
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/29 11:05:01 (permalink)
    For me gaming is most important...
    Example TITAN X Hybrid is best gaming card, (best chip and best model) at the moment.
    Everything what some gamer want from reference card with 250W power consumption she have.
    Gamer don't need to do anything except to install, connect cables, install drivers and play games.
    When someone buy reference card he want to OC little and cooldown that beast.
    Hybrid offer everything and plus silence and push hot air out of case for 99$ over reference.
    Even extra package with aluminum shroud and backplate. Because of that TITAN X Hybrid is Ultimate Gaming Card at the Moment.
    No better option. Hybrid II Pascal will probably to become even more wanted. Special if NVIDIA change size and look of PCB because HBM2 memory.
    EVGA could make miracle from similar design as Fury X. 
    and 980Ti K|NGP|N is excellent, special if someone want to enjoy longer in card and want to pay more for little unusual model.
     
    780Ti was nicer than 980, but 980Ti is nicer than 780Ti K|NGP|N.

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    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
    https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/
     
     
     

     
     
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/29 11:16:31 (permalink)
    Not quite sure I agree with the fact that a 980 is less than a 780TI. I do agree with the fact that gaming is the only way to test a graphics card's stability.

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    4820K CPU
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    Re: Evga OC issue w/980ti kingpin 2.0+ 72% ASIC 2016/04/30 09:23:45 (permalink)
    Seems to run very well
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    Well, I tried to post the links to my results as well as the forum link and well you know. If anyone is interested in forum link or firestrike extreme results link, I can send them via message. I have not OC'ed at all in my time so this has been one heck of a learning curve. I will also note that this is with 120% power target. I have not messed with the voltage on the card as I don't want it to go poof.


    I would be for your 3DMark Fire Strike:   but not the extreme scores.
     so all you need to post is this part  fs/4302874
    I will create a link for your 3DMark Fire Strike Score.
    Thanks


     
    OP benchmarks via Firestrike Extreme:
    Score/gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%
    9,349 - +68/+50 - fs/8315816<120% power
    9 375 - +68/+70 - fs/8315835<120% power
     
    Increased Power Target to 150% to see what would happen and got these results today.
    9,501 - +68/+50 - fs/8323086<150% power/50%fan
    9,574 - +68/+70 - fs/8323132<150% power/50%fan
     
    Alright bcavnaugh I ran a couple additional benchmarks via Firestrike today.
    Score - gpu offset/memory offset - link - power target%/fan%
    18,609 - +68/+70 - fs/8322770 <150% power/50%fan
    18,645 - +68 /+50 - fs/8322836 <150% power/50%fan<A little higher score than the above
    18,352 - +50/+50 - fs/8322869 <150% power/50% fan
    17,973 - 0/0 - fs/8322971 <150% power/50%fan< 62-63C on single run didn't do an extended time to see flatline temp point.
    17,913 - 0/0 - fs/8322926 <100% power/auto fan<my opinion gets too warm on a single run at around 74-75C don't know where it would flat line @. This is stock.
     
    All my test were performed with no addiditional voltage and on air. I don't know that much about the numbers, though it seems to be pretty good ones for a single card.
    Benchmark - have fun - play games


    I was going to say, that's quite a bit of information regarding you graphics card. So, how does it run during game time?



    Seems to be running very well. I have not had enough time to truly put it through the gauntlet of games I like to play. I did play it on Tomb Raider from start to finish and seemed to do well. Depending on what setting I put it on would push pretty high frames for whichever quality I put it on. I had not played that game in quite some time and was blown away by the graphics produced then with results from this card. When this game was dropped a couple years back I never had the chance to truley enjoy the quality of the game. I would like to get the new one and try it out as well and see what it looks like as well on the card. The last card I bought was an Evga 550ti. Large time gap for a comparison is like a spec of sand to a diamond. Overall satisfied at the moment.
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