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Palit and Gainward have 3072 mb 580s, will EVGA make one? This is just a general question towards EVGA, and the community. I am in no way affiliated with Palit or Gainward.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
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We've asked previously on several occasions and got no real response from EVGA. Which is why I just went and picked up 3 of the Palit cards. Apparently EVGA didn't want my $1,800 I spent on them......or they would have said something
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 12:48:03
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 I really don't understand all the secrecy with GPU companies. If you plan on making something let it be known. Loyal customers will wait. Other tech companies tell you months in advance about their upcoming products. Sometimes they tell you so early it takes an eternity before the item is actually released.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 13:16:14
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dbe425 I really don't understand all the secrecy with GPU companies. If you plan on making something let it be known. Loyal customers will wait. Other tech companies tell you months in advance about their upcoming products. Sometimes they tell you so early it takes an eternity before the item is actually released. I would have waited for 3GB EVGA GTX580s if they had said they were going to release them.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 13:29:07
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Craptacular, now that you have had these Palit cards for a while, how do you feel the quality is? I mean does it stand up to our standards (as EVGA fans) and whats the warranty like? Also I know you have 3 but have you tried running them across your 3 30" monitors in just sli?
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 13:36:04
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Saying that there is not enough testing for justifying a 3072MB 580 is clear enought in my book that they wont make anything but a 1536MB 580 and is more interested in dual GPU cards that bigger memorycards with a smaller targetgroup. And now it is way to late to the party to start with something like that when anyone that needs/wants a 3072MB has options with mutch better cooler as well as double the Vram on the same card.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 13:58:18
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emach Craptacular, now that you have had these Palit cards for a while, how do you feel the quality is? I mean does it stand up to our standards (as EVGA fans) and whats the warranty like? Also I know you have 3 but have you tried running them across your 3 30" monitors in just sli? Cards are great in my opinion. And yes I have run them in 3 way and 2 way SLI on my Surround set up. Here's a quick comparison I did for gutcheck showing the difference between 2 and 3 cards. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=874500
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/02/26 14:39:24
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Thanks Crap, I guess it's safe to say in Crysis and Metro the difference woul be even more damatic but I wonder if it would be atleast playable with sli. I use those games as a bench since they seem to stress the cards and system the most.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
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I was loyal to evga for 6 years before saying goodbye. They used to have such great service and support. Not the case anymore. My 790i ftw only got a year of bios updates before evga decided to stop supporting my mono. I wasn't able to run the revodrivex2 andhad requested a bios update. They refused to help. Shame on u evga! Just today I received two palit 580gtx 3072mb cards. Evga blows!
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 12:25:57
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far327 I was loyal to evga for 6 years before saying goodbye. They used to have such great service and support. Not the case anymore. My 790i ftw only got a year of bios updates before evga decided to stop supporting my mono. I wasn't able to run the revodrivex2 andhad requested a bios update. They refused to help. Shame on u evga! Just today I received two palit 580gtx 3072mb cards. Evga blows! Disrespectful much?
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 12:34:26
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DDiaz591 far327 I was loyal to evga for 6 years before saying goodbye. They used to have such great service and support. Not the case anymore. My 790i ftw only got a year of bios updates before evga decided to stop supporting my mono. I wasn't able to run the revodrivex2 andhad requested a bios update. They refused to help. Shame on u evga! Just today I received two palit 580gtx 3072mb cards. Evga blows! Disrespectful much? +1, very disrespectful. EVGA is a great company.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 13:02:42
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I didn't know a 3 gig card existed.Where are you guys finding them for purchase?If I could get me three of those I wouln't even consider a couple 590 cards.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 13:59:17
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Best of it is that EK have a block ready within 14 days for Gainward 580 Phantom 3GB/Palit 580 3GB AND a backplate with funtion to go with that one to make it as nice and clean as MSI LIghtning and GTX280 was on its time with the backplate.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
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@[link=showprofile.aspx?memid=241406]CraptacularOne[/link] What are the games you have that use over 1.5Gb ? Im just curious becase I've mostly seen 900Mb usage on my end, so I have about 500-600Mb not utilized
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 20:11:26
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Heavily modded oblivion. Any game that allows support for high definition texture packs etc...
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 20:39:08
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EarlZ @[link=showprofile.aspx?memid=241406]CraptacularOne[/link] What are the games you have that use over 1.5Gb ? Im just curious becase I've mostly seen 900Mb usage on my end, so I have about 500-600Mb not utilized very high resolution surround setups ie. crap's/myself use 3x30, I personally enjoy mine in portrait @ 5156x2560 w/ bezel adjustment to stay on topic, I would love to have gone w/ EVGA...that would have meant more cards for the masses and great warranty...had to go to Canada for one card and 2 in the UK, but paid the same price as if I purchased from the egg
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 22:10:16
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EVGA has had a history of a late-adoption to new trends such as USB3.0, SATA 6Gbps and DisplayPort support in their products. For all of these, there has been a delay of a few months to a year first when the first ones pioneered the niche (in the case of SR-2, almost a year after dual LGA1366 boards debuted). EVGA is a small company in the sense they rarely do SR2-like evtravagence without other players testing the water, unless it is an new CPU or chipset. Gainward and Palit may not be popular names on theses forums, but that doesn't mean much outside; its not like everyone knows EVGA is number one just because they are to us. Since most people aren't brand loyal, EVGA could be waiting for enough demand. It does help to post threads like this (not saying go make another bunch of threads, I just mean getting the word out). ...or they may not have the intention, its hard to tell; no company is under any obligation to tell customers anything they tell distributors, investors, shareholders or employees. Customers are really at the bottom of the chain when it comes to a company's plans. Sometimes the future isn't in stone, for instance the wait for GTX590 due to nVidia wanting to steal spotlight of AMD's HD6990. Both cards have been at the end of the runway for a while now, waiting for the other to go first. This late, at least frequencies can be changed to make something look better. In fact, GTX590 may be where EVGA's faith is at the moment, maybe a 3GB GTX580 could interfere with that? Think about it. dbe425
I really don't understand all the secrecy with GPU companies. If you plan on making something let it be known. Loyal customers will wait. Other tech companies tell you months in advance about their upcoming products. Sometimes they tell you so early it takes an eternity before the item is actually released. Secrecy = profit protection. Put it this way, if your competition knew what you were doing, what gaurantees are there that they won't steal spotlight or affect your sales somehow? Put it another way, would revealing an upcoming product prevent the sale of current models? The latter happens often and the one reason why they don't want us to know. The more we know, the more their stuff sits on shelves when they would have otherwise sold them off. Again, it affects their ability to function as a profit-oriented business. FYI, loyal customers of just about any brand or product, whether shoes or your favorite chocolate ice cream, are always a MINORITY against the rest, i.e. companies need a portion of the rest to worth the venture. All companies must balance the total costs of a development plus profits to be lower than demand (the number of customers multiply by what they are willing to spend). An imbalance = no reason to bother with it, whether they can't make it cheaper, not enough customers or they prefer to spend less. Making money is the bottomline, not impressing the loyalists which can't keep any company afloat. bvsbutthd101
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far327 I was loyal to evga for 6 years before saying goodbye. They used to have such great service and support. Not the case anymore. My 790i ftw only got a year of bios updates before evga decided to stop supporting my mono. I wasn't able to run the revodrivex2 andhad requested a bios update. They refused to help. Shame on u evga! Just today I received two palit 580gtx 3072mb cards. Evga blows! Disrespectful much? +1, very disrespectful. EVGA is a great company. He's allowed his opinion until he breaks the TOS, no matter what we think of it; and not that anyone said it, but he isn't a troll for voicing an opinion opposing the vocal minority in here.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 23:07:29
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dbe425 I really don't understand all the secrecy with GPU companies. If you plan on making something let it be known. Loyal customers will wait. Other tech companies tell you months in advance about their upcoming products. Sometimes they tell you so early it takes an eternity before the item is actually released. Secrecy = profit protection. Put it this way, if your competition knew what you were doing, what gaurantees are there that they won't steal spotlight or affect your sales somehow? Put it another way, would revealing an upcoming product prevent the sale of current models? The latter happens often and the one reason why they don't want us to know. The more we know, the more their stuff sits on shelves when they would have otherwise sold them off. Again, it affects their ability to function as a profit-oriented business.
This makes me think back to the Nash Equilibrium in Game Theory. If the companies release too much information then they give the other an advantage. If, however, the companies release all information then they lose any possible edge on the competition. You would expect to be brought to a point where neither company can change their strategy to gain an advantage. This can be either good or bad for us, the end consumer, depending on how the companies react to each other. In the case of the dairy industry the customer loses due to the false Nash Equilibrium created by government regulations. The government promises a minimum price per gallon to the dairy farmers, and penalizes anyone that tries to get an edge on the competition by undercutting that price. Now in the case of graphics card companies (and hardware based companies in general) if the one company knows enough information about the competition they can just develop hardware to outdo what will be released rather than having to guess and be innovative. On the other hand, the less the companies know about their competition the harder they have to work to get our money. In this way secrecy is our best ally.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/04 23:23:46
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CraptacularOne We've asked previously on several occasions and got no real response from EVGA. Which is why I just went and picked up 3 of the Palit cards. Apparently EVGA didn't want my $1,800 I spent on them......or they would have said something Lol, well put bud...
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/05 00:56:11
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If you ask me it is a horrible Practice. When they do not tell their customers about upcoming products all it does is make them lose more customers. If Chevy was coming out with a new car... would they not turn and tell people who are die hard chevy fans about it? of course they would.. because those people who are interested in the upcoming vehicle will wait for it instead of settling for what is out then and there. Same goes for phones. The Droid bionic... The Optimus 2x. Iphone coming to Verizon. If those companies who are going to be selling the phones made by LG , HTC and motorola did not advertise the phones months in advance they would have a very hard time keeping customers. Think of how many customers ATT lost because of the iphone 4 heading to verizon? They got the word from verizon that they would be able to get it in a few months and people either did not renew to ATT or are waiting for the Verizon phone. If Nvidia + EVGA Helped out by talking about their products before hand like Asus and Gigabyte do... it would leave a few customers with a good taste in their mouth knowing that a good product is going to hit the streets. I would gladly wait for all EVGA products because i love their warranty and the fact they are 45 minutes away from me :P. But the secrecy is a bit too much as it stands. I just looked at the Maximum board basically sell out for the P67 so quickly :P. I am sure if the maximus buyers knew more about the classified or a release date it would make at least half of them hold off for the classified. But knowing nothing about it will make it seem as if it will never come when everything else is already in the streets :P Just my 2 cents :P
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/05 04:17:32
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What are the games you have that use over 1.5Gb ?
Im just curious becase I've mostly seen 900Mb usage on my end, so I have about 500-600Mb not utilized
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ie. crap's/myself use 3x30, I personally enjoy mine in portrait @ 5156x2560 w/ bezel adjustment
to stay on topic, I would love to have gone w/ EVGA...that would have meant more cards for the masses and great warranty...had to go to Canada for one card and 2 in the UK, but paid the same price as if I purchased from the egg
Not sure about that, for me EVGA 580GTX in any of the four flavor has been a item not avalible in any big numbers and very long time to get in stock for distribution to customers, All of the other brands has been in stock or avalible for months when first BIG shipment of 580 was avalibe that lasted more than 10 seconds and vanila/SC is still one month deliverytime now and in low quantity that would make EVGA ashamed of them self for missjudge the demand in Europe that badly and do the misstake to use the card for stepup rather than retail where the real demand is for the card so EGA dont mean more card to the masses, quite the opposite today, less card to the masses. lehpron EVGA has had a history of a late-adoption to new trends such as USB3.0, SATA 6Gbps and DisplayPort support in their products. For all of these, there has been a delay of a few months to a year first when the first ones pioneered the niche (in the case of SR-2, almost a year after dual LGA1366 boards debuted). EVGA is a small company in the sense they rarely do SR2-like evtravagence without other players testing the water, unless it is an new CPU or chipset. Gainward and Palit may not be popular names on theses forums, but that doesn't mean much outside; its not like everyone knows EVGA is number one just because they are to us. Since most people aren't brand loyal, EVGA could be waiting for enough demand. It does help to post threads like this (not saying go make another bunch of threads, I just mean getting the word out). ...or they may not have the intention, its hard to tell; no company is under any obligation to tell customers anything they tell distributors, investors, shareholders or employees. Customers are really at the bottom of the chain when it comes to a company's plans. Sometimes the future isn't in stone, for instance the wait for GTX590 due to nVidia wanting to steal spotlight of AMD's HD6990. Both cards have been at the end of the runway for a while now, waiting for the other to go first. This late, at least frequencies can be changed to make something look better. In fact, GTX590 may be where EVGA's faith is at the moment, maybe a 3GB GTX580 could interfere with that? Think about it. dbe425 I really don't understand all the secrecy with GPU companies. If you plan on making something let it be known. Loyal customers will wait. Other tech companies tell you months in advance about their upcoming products. Sometimes they tell you so early it takes an eternity before the item is actually released. Secrecy = profit protection. Put it this way, if your competition knew what you were doing, what gaurantees are there that they won't steal spotlight or affect your sales somehow? Put it another way, would revealing an upcoming product prevent the sale of current models? The latter happens often and the one reason why they don't want us to know. The more we know, the more their stuff sits on shelves when they would have otherwise sold them off. Again, it affects their ability to function as a profit-oriented business. FYI, loyal customers of just about any brand or product, whether shoes or your favorite chocolate ice cream, are always a MINORITY against the rest, i.e. companies need a portion of the rest to worth the venture. All companies must balance the total costs of a development plus profits to be lower than demand (the number of customers multiply by what they are willing to spend). An imbalance = no reason to bother with it, whether they can't make it cheaper, not enough customers or they prefer to spend less. Making money is the bottomline, not impressing the loyalists which can't keep any company afloat. bvsbutthd101 DDiaz591 far327 I was loyal to evga for 6 years before saying goodbye. They used to have such great service and support. Not the case anymore. My 790i ftw only got a year of bios updates before evga decided to stop supporting my mono. I wasn't able to run the revodrivex2 andhad requested a bios update. They refused to help. Shame on u evga! Just today I received two palit 580gtx 3072mb cards. Evga blows! Disrespectful much? +1, very disrespectful. EVGA is a great company. He's allowed his opinion until he breaks the TOS, no matter what we think of it; and not that anyone said it, but he isn't a troll for voicing an opinion opposing the vocal minority in here. Thats where they do it wrong, waiting for demand go up will just make us buy what is availbe as in Gainward/Palit and then demand will never be high enough to even make the card and when no company will make a WC block for that card and EK making for Gainward/Palit the marketshare for EVGA in this segment is nonexisting when they not is the first one out with a card. I agre that limited edition 590 and the card they gonna replace it with for stepup since 590 is to rare to even put out for stepup has just taken to mutch attention from the segment where Vram counts more than number of GPU:s, as in 2560x1600 and higher where any card less than 1,6GB will suffer when setting is in eyecandymode and no one can justify use of less eyecandy to slip under that bar where 99% of all 580 will fail due to Vram.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
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EVGA is an innovator for certain items, but not graphics cards. As a business they are the most popular Nvidia distributors and they probably do not want too many extreme cards as those can pose the possibility of a high failure rate. The fact that they have a lions share of market makes them less innovative. Pretty standard. Card makers like Palit although perfectly fine are not the companies that sell a ton of cards so they are more innovative. Look at Gigabytes 1000 core gtx 560. They want more market share so they are being more aggressive with their products to gain market share. That's how I see it anyway. Funny because I thought EVGAs X58 offerings were pretty impressive and aggressive, but then again EVGA has never been a real mobo distributor until the last couple chipsets when SLI became something that any board could run instead of depending on an Nvidia chip to do so.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/05 17:49:56
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basicallyevolve If you ask me it is a horrible Practice. When they do not tell their customers about upcoming products all it does is make them lose more customers. If Chevy was coming out with a new car... would they not turn and tell people who are die hard chevy fans about it? of course they would.. because those people who are interested in the upcoming vehicle will wait for it instead of settling for what is out then and there. Same goes for phones. The Droid bionic... The Optimus 2x. Iphone coming to Verizon. If those companies who are going to be selling the phones made by LG , HTC and motorola did not advertise the phones months in advance they would have a very hard time keeping customers. Think of how many customers ATT lost because of the iphone 4 heading to verizon? They got the word from verizon that they would be able to get it in a few months and people either did not renew to ATT or are waiting for the Verizon phone. If Nvidia + EVGA Helped out by talking about their products before hand like Asus and Gigabyte do... it would leave a few customers with a good taste in their mouth knowing that a good product is going to hit the streets. I would gladly wait for all EVGA products because i love their warranty and the fact they are 45 minutes away from me :P. But the secrecy is a bit too much as it stands. I just looked at the Maximum board basically sell out for the P67 so quickly :P. I am sure if the maximus buyers knew more about the classified or a release date it would make at least half of them hold off for the classified. But knowing nothing about it will make it seem as if it will never come when everything else is already in the streets :P Just my 2 cents :P I agree with your statement 110%. What is the huge deal right ? To be honest I think EVGA is the only company who does that. All the other companies announce in advance what they will be releasing at some point. Where EVGA is like Suprise !!! the 590 GTX is here. I for one am willing to invest in either (2) 580 GTX or just get a 590 GTX, but with no release date, do I wait longer ? should I buy what is available now and feel remorseful after they release something new next week ? Really it is a pain in the neck to put up with. EVGA has great products, and customer service, and has cool contests, tournaments and evga folding team rocks. But really, with holding product release information is a little unnecessary, can EVGA lighten it up a bit ? The 590 GTX was shown almost 6 months ago, or at least the version of the card that had 2x 480 GTXs on it.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/05 19:20:51
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basicallyevolve If you ask me it is a horrible Practice. When they do not tell their customers about upcoming products all it does is make them lose more customers. A real loyal customer would wait for their favorite brand to do something, they wouldn't leave, unless in reality the whole reason they want something takes over the brand loyality. I personally do not agree with being loyal, I see it as unnecessary. The company doesn't care for any of it's customers and more than we care for them, while fans are really just free advertising. Diehards will always be such a minority that they can't keep companies afloat, so companies must cater to others who are suseptible to competitor advances. Keeping secrets from competitors is more important that not keeping loyal customers informed. It isn't a practice any more than a habit or rule that companies have been following for decades, it isn't going to change unless we become more than a customer. basicallyevolve If Nvidia + EVGA Helped out by talking about their products before hand like Asus and Gigabyte do... First off Asus and Gigabyte are huge brandnames, they sell OEM boards to Dell and whatnot, they can afford multiple routes for sales. That said not even Asus or Gigabyte officially talk about their products too far before release with customers. Know the difference between leaks by anonymous employees, subcontractors, or some UPS employee with official statements that show up on their websites. Nothing about GTX590, or an Intel Z68, are showing up on their storefronts. Rumors aren't official no matter how much we believe in them, see a photo, or read the details of a driver, etc. But people trust, expect and treat them as official even if the information wasn't for us. tm95ern Thats where they do it wrong, waiting for demand go up will just make us buy what is availbe as in Gainward/Palit and then demand will never be high enough to even make the card and when no company will make a WC block for that card and EK making for Gainward/Palit the marketshare for EVGA in this segment is nonexisting when they not is the first one out with a card. FWIW, most industries wait for demand to grow. Pioneering a market has never been a successful business model, other than faith in a product or use, there are no gaurantees. Apple somehow did it with their Ipod, before then no one thought of merging a laptop harddrive with a digital music player, which the idea took off. Same with Boeing's 747 jumbojet, they bet the farm introducing a massive widebody only to benefit from airline deregulation and rising fuel costs. But these circumstances are rare, most companies just fail and go bankrupt for doing something new mainly because of a combination of misjudging product costs or how big the market actually is. One example is Airbus' A380 double-deck jumbo jet, it ended up costing more than it should have and the weak US Dollar from mid-2000 screwed over the Euro ramping up the breakeven minimum sales number. They are still shallow; at $280 million a piece, only a handful have been built with just over 200 on order, but they need over 400 to break even. They originally forecasted almost 1200 aircraft by 15 years from now way back in 1999-2000 when they started the program. Boeing on the other hand didn't jump into the niche even though they already have a 400-500 passenger airplane. They insisted the market for 500+ passenger jets is too small, in some ways they are right. It doesn't matter if one or two airlines, like UAE's Emirates, demand almost a hundred 600-800 passenger airplanes out to the next 20-25 years when the development of such an aircraft exceeds the number of sales. This is the problem of EVGA introducing a 3GB GTX580, the current demand is too small for three competitors but big enough for just two, it must grow beyond what Palit and Gainward can deliver to be worth EVGA's investment. With AMD creating a stir with their Eyefinity multi-monitor push for non-professional use, easily there must have been an existing and/or growning nVidia multi-monitor crowd reacting to it. Gainward and Palit may have done concurrent research waiting for that demand to grow big enough to debut a 3GB version of GTX580, yes even they waited. Most companies wait, but if your company sees a demand, why not capitalize? Remember what I stated demand was, not just anyone wanting and whining about something, it has to be a specific number and what they are willing to spend. The 3GB GTX580 niche market might have been small to begin with and only large enough for one or two competitors, maybe EVGA knows that if they jump in now, all three vendors will loose money. EVGA especially may not sell as many as either Palit or Gainward as most any 3GB GTX580 customers already made their purchases. tm95ern I agree that limited edition 590 and the card they gonna replace it with for stepup since 590 is to rare to even put out for stepup has just taken to mutch attention from the segment where Vram counts more than number of GPU:s, as in 2560x1600 and higher where any card less than 1,6GB will suffer when setting is in eyecandymode and no one can justify use of less eyecandy to slip under that bar where 99% of all 580 will fail due to Vram.
I think for the probable cost, most folks will be weighing two 512-shader GPUs with just more Vram on a 3GB GTX580, the latter will loose to all except high-end multi-monitor users. Gainward and Palit may have cornered the niche market already with a few hundred units sold, not enough for EVGA.
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tm95ern
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/06 05:25:36
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The 3GB 580 market is actually just getting bigger and bigger in fase with more demanding games that is propperly coded to use Vram even if consolcrap dominates but sometime it will take an end with disaster for this cheaproute and i smell classaction for doing so to stop developer to cheap out. EVGA totaly missed this train and if they was smart they was the one that getting my, Craps, Vegas, a bunch of others money that obiously aint worth anything so this just prove that EVGA gets supriced once again and loose sales on inportant market for the future where Vram gets nmore and more relevant the way rez goes and price of usable LED/LCD go. Market also grow with cheaper 24" TN-crap so the mass can do 3x24" in surround for less than 50% what a 30" IPS run you down and even on that rez 3GB come to play very mutch. Problem is brandloyalty with some people that refuse to use the best product rather than their favorit brand, i waws like that but got the smell of freedom and dont regret it. I happen to know they sold more of the Gainward/Palit 3GB than what you think, where i got my Gainward they already sold at least 30 in the first batch and 45 of the second that was 56 in total, newegg wiped out in 5 min, OC-UK unknown but total fihure is above your expectations. Problem with 590 is that the version we think of will be wiped out faster than you can get one and it has been known it will be a very limited item, 1000 units and then it is history replaced with EVGA:s own dual-GPU card based on cheaper GPU:s like dual GF114 to fit the envelope better nongimped. But 6990 has set the bar to 450W so a not so gimped dual GF110 have more room now when AMD is the black sheep to consume more power for less performance.Why anyone even expect stepup on 590 is beyond anyone that know the 1000 unit limit when EVGA isnt the only one or the first one.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/08 05:58:39
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If EVGA would release a 3GB 580 for $600 like the Palit/Gainward I would definitely buy one. The VRAM on the 580 is still a concern for me, I almost bought a 6970 because of it. When playing Civ 5 I have seen 1508 and 1520 MB of VRAM being used, and thats at only 1920x1200! If I was running in surround or 2560x1600 I would actually be running out of VRAM. And thats just a strategy game, what happens when true next-gen action games are out? 1.5GB just isn't gonna cut it without having to drop graphics settings. Like I said I would happily pay a premium for more VRAM on a 580, it offers more longevity, and SLI would be more attractive. As-is it seems like a 580 SLI setup could run into a VRAM limitation long before the GPUs run out of steam.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/08 10:56:42
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Gamers aren't the only ones interested in a card like this. The only other card that comes w/ 3GB of RAM is a Tesla GPU, which is about double the price of a card like Palit/Gainward's. That being said, I am in need of either Palit or Gainward 3GB card in my hands by Friday March 11 to do some CUDA simulations. If anyone is willing to either part with or "lease" their card to me, that would be great. Send a PM; I can pay overnight shipping costs as well.
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/09 11:22:56
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Re:EVGA, will you release a 3072 mb GTX 580?
2011/03/09 11:28:17
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EVGA_JacobF stay tuned.
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