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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/03 10:51:27 (permalink)
Baasha

have the new generation Xeons been released? I heard the "best" Xeon to get now for the SR-2 are the 5690s.

This board will be great for doing productivity work or some heavy duty application. I think that for gaming, it won't be as good as a rock-solid 2600k or 990X that can OC really high. I haven't seen the Xeons OC much more than 4.4GHz with water cooling on the SR-2.

Anyone hit 5GHz with the dual Xeons and quad-SLI gtx-580 yet?

 
Honestly think CPU speed is no longer an issue with gaming..
 
New Xeons got pushed back to Q1 2012...
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/04 21:01:41 (permalink)
For me to consider upgrading my SR-2 to the new model I want:
 
* Intel NICS
* SAS 6 Gb/s, as it does both sas and sata, with real drivers and real performance not the marvel stuff
* More reliable USB and more USB 3 ports
 
I expect it to continue to have 7 full length pcie slots with many of them available in x16
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/05 00:11:23 (permalink)
Hopefully Asus' and/or EVGA's products have intel NICs. I'm sure both will have SAS and it is very unlikely that this portion of the storage will be run from a 3rd party controller. I'm sure both will have more than a few USB 3 ports. The X79 Classy has a crapload, so maybe that's an indicator.
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/05 04:51:04 (permalink)
the SRX have sas port by intel X79 D version is full sata/sas14 port
the usb3 third party chip , for other sata port need a third party chip
need more size in pcb mobo HTPX is little for put all you  need
or put a raid card syle areca 1800x with 24 port sas 6gb
 
the X79 classified is for high end gaming not for server usage why you want all sata port and 8 dim slot the manufacturer dim prépare quad channel 4x8gb at DRR 1600 2000 2133 gskill corsair have open the way with dominator GT 4x8GB DDR 1866 only  for the moment
post edited by cateno - 2011/11/05 04:55:22

E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/05 16:33:29 (permalink)
Hi Cateno, not sure I could agree with you that the SR2/3 is a solution for high end gaming. I'm not aware of any games that would stretch a 6/12 core sandy bridge-e single CPU let alone having RAM in the 32GB realm.
 
I have an LSI raid card already, the 9265-8i which is a second gen 6Gb/s SAS/SATA card which peaks at over 2500MB/s reads including in raid 6.
 
I run my boot SSD off of the Marvell 6 Gb/s controller on my SR2 and I've never been happy with the performance of the controller.
 
Is the Intel X79 D chipset with sas/sata 6Gb/s or 3 Gb/s?
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/05 17:41:20 (permalink)
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Honestly think CPU speed is no longer an issue with gaming..

New Xeons got pushed back to Q1 2012...

 Pheww...
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/06 21:47:25 (permalink)
sas sata 6GB includes in X79D, the link is good for read the versions of the X79 chip , the version D and T is the full version
http://www.guru3d.com/new...duced-functionalities/

E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/06 21:49:52 (permalink)
and the game  not use more of 4core for this time the best is PS3

E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

and other  DFI giga etc  

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/14 11:20:08 (permalink)
X79 Classified Dual 2011 When?......

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/14 11:53:51 (permalink)
SR3 in 2012 with classified V2 with all sata sas port and 8 dim
I hope this , for the moment I buy the classified X79 V1 , no ECP
 

E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

and other  DFI giga etc  

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/14 12:28:39 (permalink)
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X79 Classified Dual 2011 When?......

 
Next year when the CPUs come out.
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 04:06:21 (permalink)
There is a expected score of 35 cinebench 11.5 points for the 8-core 2011 pin Xeons in dual configuration at 4.6 GHz according to the 6-core i7-3960X results (13.3 points).
 
So, the SR3 is expected to have around 50% more cpu power than the SR2.

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:13:49 (permalink)
Not quite, since you can also add 6 core westmere's to your current SR-2 and can overclock them to beyond 4 Ghz and still get close to 22 points on cinebench...I have X5650's running at 4 Ghz solid and do exactly that...
 
As for the 8 core Xeon versions coming out in a few months, keep in mind that they're going to be expensive(DUH), and that going from 12 cores/24 threads(maximum on the SR2) to 16 cores/32 threads is not a 50% increase in CPU power...It's a bit just over 30% more.
 
Then there's the other sticky issue.....Those xeons are still made at 32 nm, and the fastest version, running at 3.1 Ghz with 8 cores enabled, already hits 150 watts TDP accorsing to intel, so if you're dreaming of 4.5 Ghz overclocks, it needs at the very least a heavy duty water cooling setup since 2 of these are going to be putting out some tremendous amount of heat....Way more than the current 6 core Xeons with 6 cores and using the same process.
 
Hence why i'd only be interested in 8 cores when intel introduces them using the 22nm process and finfets, wich intel has gone on the record as saying that the latter have a 30% better power efficiency over the 32 nm process, something that will be handy when attmepting high overclocks, since less power going in, means less heat coming out...
 
 
 
post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/15 10:24:57
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:29:22 (permalink)
I've considered all that you say, my sr2 gets 18 points but I've not used this score, I've used the 23 points scored by the fastest SR2, also I did the calculations with the 6 to 8 core increase. Of course this calculations are valid if the new Xeons can be pushed up to 4.6 GHz.
 
In order to clarify:
 
13.3 points with i7-3960X at 4.6GHz
 
13.3x2 = 26.6 points in dual cpu configuration
 
(26.6*8)/6 = 35.47 points if we have 2 cores more per CPU
 
Fastest SR2 score 6-core dual xeon at 4.5 GHz: 23 points
 
35.47/23 = 1.54 -> 54% performance increase
post edited by massdestructor - 2011/11/15 10:33:33

EVGA SR2 at 200 Bclk, default voltages
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:33:10 (permalink)
As for me, i'll be looking to replace the X5650's i currently own with X5680's or even X5690's, since once those new xeons are released in february, the prices come down big time on the previous generation(or at least i'm hope so)....I know the performance increase won't be huge since i might get another 500 Mhz overclock, but it's about maxing the full potential of the SR-2 i own.
 
Beyond that, it'll also get 3 new video cards of the 28nm generation to replace the GTX580's i now currently use, since the performance increase with the change in fab process is usually pretty huge(close to double i'm hoping), so between the CPU swap and the new video cards, this old SR-2 will still have plenty of bite for a long time to come indeed...
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:36:10 (permalink)
I would not expect that the xeons prices will go down, they will just be discontinued and replaced by the new generation, as happened before.
post edited by massdestructor - 2011/11/15 10:40:11

EVGA SR2 at 200 Bclk, default voltages
2xXeon E5645 at 3800MHz Turbo on, default voltages, 2xCoolerMaster V6GT
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:47:38 (permalink)
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I've considered all that you say, my sr2 gets 18 points but I've not used this score, I've used the 23 points scored by the fastest SR2, also I did the calculations with the 6 to 8 core increase. Of course this calculations are valid if the new Xeons can be pushed up to 4.6 GHz.

In order to clarify:

13.3 points with i7-3960X at 4.6GHz

13.3x2 = 26.6 points in dual cpu configuration

(26.6*8)/6 = 35.47 points if we have 2 cores more per CPU

Fastest SR2 score 6-core dual xeon at 4.5 GHz: 23 points

35.47/23 = 1.54 -> 54% performance increase

 
 
I got nearly 22 points with my X5650's at 4 Ghz btw, and that's the kicker really since you're assuming that the same overclock can be achieved with all 8 cores enabled, compared to the results we've seen with the 6 core version, when it's a given that at the very least, the cooling requirements will be higher still even if the chips makes it, wich is still unknown at this point....Ive learned a long time ago to never count my chickens before they hatch...
 
X5680's clocking to 4.5 Ghz are fairly common on water cooling on the SR-2( good water cooling, not the all in one built in kits), so for this next generation, i'll take a show me first aproach, but from what i've seen of intel's 22nm process and the use of finfets(vertically stacked transistors, rather than horizontal), the odds are better of achieving higher clocks with all 8 cores enabled, using a smaller die with less power consumption and therefore, easier to cool down for a given clock.....In short, too many advantages to ignore, but the downside is having to wait until they're out, wich might be quite a while.
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 10:51:12 (permalink)
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I would not expect that the xeons prices will go down, they will just be discontinued and replaced by the new generation, as happened before.

 
By intel sure, but i'm talking about those retailers with left over old stock once the new generation is introduced, and can't sell them at these prices, period......Better to make some money on the old stuff than no money at all...
 
 
EDIT: an online shop i buy stuff from has 35 X5680's in stock right now, so guess what i'll happen in 3 months once the new Xeon's are out, and they still haven't sold this old stock....

post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/15 11:04:33
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 11:58:27 (permalink)
20.08 points with 2xX5680 at 4GHz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aootHB_wR8
 
22.46 points with 2xX5680 at 4.5GHz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHOba5oKU0Y
 
I can't figure how you get 22 points at 4.0GHz.

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 12:13:45 (permalink)
A picture is worth 1000 words:  
  

 
That's actually the result at 3.8 Ghz btw...I'll try to dig up the 4 Ghz score, but i believe it was 21.7( going by memory)
 
post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/15 12:16:04
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 12:20:49 (permalink)
Another result, this time with more agressive bios tweaks, but the CPU's still at 3.8 Ghz
 

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 12:49:14 (permalink)
ok, those results are more reasonable. Take in account that if you could raise to 4.5GHz you will get only a 10% more, that is the 20.xx+2 = 22.xx, which is the result of the second video.

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 12:56:09 (permalink)
I Would love to see an ECP with it.

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 13:00:53 (permalink)
I found the result at 4 Ghz... It was buried in a backup hardrive and i'm trying to upload it to photobucket....result is 21.48 at 4 Ghz.
 
4 Ghz + 12% is 4.48 Ghz...An acheivable overclock, so if the benchmark scales perfectly to clock speeds, a 21.42 result at 4 Ghz would mean a 23.99 result at 4.48 Ghz....Might even hit 24 even for sake of argument..
 
Give me a few mins to sort out the photobucket crap and i'll post it.
 
 
Here it is:
 
 
  
 
post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/15 13:12:00
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 13:17:38 (permalink)
At which speed is your memory running? and with what timmings?

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 13:31:15 (permalink)
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At which speed is your memory running? and with what timmings?

 
Corsair dominator GT's 1866mhz at 9-9-9-24, and with the multiplier i set in the bios, they're actually running at  2000Mhz even at those timings and stable as a rock, but a compromise is needed.....I'm only using 6 sticks (3 per CPU), to avoid overloading the memory controler on the CPU's themselves, as hitting high clock speeds on the CPU's with agressive memory timings and all memory slots full....Not going to happen
 
So yes i'm only making due with 12 GB onboard...
 
Picture of the beast follows:
 

 
Anyhow, i think it proves that this particular benchmark is fairly sensitive to memory timings and speeds, so that plays a big role in the final score, and i do intend on getting those X5680's and make it to 4.5 Ghz and see if i can crack the 24 point mark...

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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 13:42:46 (permalink)
Your system is the best fine tuned that I've ever seen.
 
The con is the low memory amount.

EVGA SR2 at 200 Bclk, default voltages
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4xZotac GTX480 Quad-SLI, default clocks and voltages
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/15 13:55:29 (permalink)
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Your system is the best fine tuned that I've ever seen.

The con is the low memory amount.

 
Thanks, but that's the compromise to make, though corsair should start to produce 4 GB modules fairly soon at these speeds i'm currently running at so that 24GB is possible using only 6 modules, and why it doesn't bug me much that the upcoming SR-X only has 4 slots for one of it's CPU's or that there's a fair amount of X79 boards with only 4 slots.....That's as much as you can use to hit high overclocks and agressive memory timings( 1 memory stick per channel).
 
And seeing the above picture, now you also know why i'm kinda worried about the upcoming Xeons with 8 cores onboard while still using the same 32nm process my CPU's are using, and hoping to hit 4.5 Ghz overclocks on those and the kind of cooling you need to keep temperatures reasonable under full load on all cores....
 
Mine hit 60*C on full load even if left for a few hours like that at 4 Ghz, so at 4.5 Ghz with the X5680's, and assuming they'll need a bit more voltage, it's going to run hotter and i might have to beef up the cooling a bit more as it is.....Now imagine 8 cores at these speeds at maxed loads for sustained periods of time, and there's 2 of these to cool down...Ouch.

post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/15 14:03:55
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/16 16:52:59 (permalink)
hello,
from my pov in priority the r3/rx must include every thing we already find  in the r2
+ update to be compliant 2011 cpu with 4 pcie gen 3 16X if we are be able to connect gen 2 cards in gen 3 ports without compromise of speed.
+thunderbold /lightpeak directly on mother board.
+ SAS connector
+more ram connector if it doesn't eat on the16X PCI
- I prefer that evga spend money in order to make good quality than a flashy look so if the cards looks like to the previous one is not a problem for me because my mobo will finish in a 19" inch enclosure ... and personaly i hate mobo who look like to a "chrismas tree" !
So i hope R3 will not be a revollution but an evolution in the continuity of the R2 product. 
bye ...
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Re:EVGA next-gen "Classified SR-3" motherboard?!? 2011/11/16 22:33:23 (permalink)
all the other X79 motherboards have PCI-e 3.0 no reason SR wouldnt.
thunderbolt is used by very few if any high end overclockers/gamers. its a mac thing and just like 1394 (firewire) it will hang around for a while but is not significantly better or important enough to make a difference. 
SAS connectors are present on the preview picture of the SR.
there is no reason to have 16 RAM slots.
and lastly, you might not care what it looks like but a lot of other people do.

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EVGA SR-X, intel Xeon E5-2630 v2
2x EVGA GTX 980 hydro copper
32GB corsair RAM 1600Mhz
10TB HDD, 256GB SSD
And all the bugs a Rosewill Blackhawk-ultra can hold.
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