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Introducing the EVGA Z170 motherboard lineup. These motherboards take performance to another level with next generation features like high performance native SATA 6G ports, next generation USB 3.1*, up to NVIDIA 4-Way SLI support*, Creative Core3D Audio* and more. A reimagined board and color layout with the latest EVGA GUI BIOS that focuses on functionality make the EVGA Z170 lineup a top choice for gamers, performance users and hardware enthusiasts. More Info Here : http://www.evga.com/articles/00952/EVGA-Z170-Motherboards/
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 05:27:13
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I knew Intel was probably waiting until gamescom to release this officially.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 05:51:33
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Very nice boards...are retail prices gonna be a bit cheaper in stores? European prices of the FTW 170 are the same as top of the line Z170 of other maufacturers, or very good X99 boards.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 05:58:21
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To bad jumping to skylake is utterly pointless from a desktop perspective. Better off going with x99 if you're upgrading from Sandy/ivy bridge. The boards however seem very nice.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 06:43:30
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Some sites remind that Intel Skylake will cost about 320$, but nobody know for sure. This is first next gen mainstream Intel platform with DDR4 support, NVMe M.2 and USB 3.1 as new features. Maybe is time to people with 3-4 years old platforms jump in but from performance side that will not be absolutely necessary. Good option will be i7-6700K - EVGA Mini ITX Stinger, 2x8GB Dominator Platinum 2400MHz C14, designed for X99 and 100 Series or new GSkill Trident Z designed for Z170, everything packed in Hadron Hydro. I mean just in case if someone dice to play with tubes one day. Dual Channel 2x8 will easy to work on 3000-3400MHz on Skylake.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 07:41:11
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Where is Z170MB,s For Norway, Come on guys!!!
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 07:44:16
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Stinger looks great but how does the M.2 port work? Is it mounted vertical? Will it support M.2 NVMe SSD's? The expansion board looks short.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 07:54:25
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I think there are some errors on your detail page looking good I am interested in the board SpecificationsChipset – Intel Z170SLI – 2/3/4waySATA – 8 SATA 6GRAID 0, 1, 5, 10, JBODUSB – 1 USB 3.1 / 8 USB 3.0 / 2 USB 2.0Memory Support – 4 DIMM Dual-Channel DDR5 3200MHz+ (up to 64GB) (ddr4 is what your regular add says)Capacitors – POSCAP/Solid StateEthernet – 2x Intel® Gigabit NICAudio – Creative Sound Core3D Quad-Core Audio ProcessorDisplayPort – 1x DPFan Headers – 5 (2 PWM, 3 DC)PCB – 8 LayersPCI-E Slot Arrangement – 1x16, 2x16, 3x8, 4x8NVMe Support – Yes (PCI-E) Form Factor EATX Form Factor Length: 12in - 304.8mm Width: 10.375in - 263.5mm Features2-Way SLI® Support (2/3/4 way sli )300% more gold content in the CPU socket USB 3.0 Support SATA 6G Support 8 Channel High Definition Audio 100% Solid State Capacitors EVGA Vdroop Control EVGA E-LEET Tuning Support EVGA EZ Voltage read points Onboard Clear CMOS, Power and Reset Buttons Onboard CPU Temperature Monitor Dual BIOS Support PCI Express 3.0 Support Supports Intel Core i3, i5, and i7 Socket 1150 Processors (don't you mean 1151 socket) Operating System Support it on all three of your product detail page
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 08:03:07
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The EVGA Z170 Stinger is said to have Realtek on the advertisement, but the specs page says "Audio – Creative Sound Core3D Quad-Core Audio Processor" and "Supports Intel Core i3, i5, and i7 Socket 1150 Processors" 
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 08:09:55
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csphobos
The EVGA Z170 Stinger is said to have Realtek on the advertisement, but the specs page says
"Audio – Creative Sound Core3D Quad-Core Audio Processor" and "Supports Intel Core i3, i5, and i7 Socket 1150 Processors"
I also have questions on the audio ports. I will be buying the FTW board, what's the audio specs? Will it support DTS Connect/DD Live?
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 09:35:19
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Very interested in the Z170 Classified! For the audio chip and also the 40 pci-e lanes for potential SLI and pci-e ssd down the road. Decision time re: Z170 Classified + 6700k vs. X99 + 5930k...
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 10:12:29
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I just want a mini-itx with SoundCore 3d... Seems to be too much to ask for. ASRock has it on one of their boards... that comes combined with a case.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 10:37:44
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From what I can tell, only the Classified has the Core3D, and for some bizarre reason EVGA has gone with the inferior Realtek for the Stinger.. where you don't have any room to add a separate internal sound card. Why EVGA, why???? The Z87 and 97 had Core 3D, so why skimp out now? I would have purchased the Z170 Stinger for sure if it also had Core3D, but without it.. nope. External card no good - I want to be able to connect the front audio plug on the case as well as rear ports. Dammit, I was looking forward to this build. Such a let down over one component that is relatively minor but makes all the difference to user experience (and it definitely makes a huge difference - the sound on my X79 Dark with Realtek is complete crap, the sound on my Mrs' Z87 Stinger with Core3D is far better). Wow... too late now.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 10:51:09
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 11:32:01
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How are the PCIe lanes distributed on the Classified? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th slots say x16/x8, x8, x16/x8, x8 respectively. So what is the first slot and how are these lanes being provided?
Here is my guess, but I would like EVGA to verify:
Slot 1 is x16/x8, with 8 lanes being split with the PEX 8747 chip.
From the PEX 8747 chip, the 32 lanes are provided to the 2nd-5th slots.
Thus, for 4-way SLI (with double slot spacing), you get 8 lanes directly from the CPU for GPU1, 16 lanes from the PEX 8747 chip for GPU2, 8 lanes from the PEX 8747 chip for GPU3, and 8 lanes from the PEX 8747 chip for GPU4.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 12:51:30
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How are the PCIe lanes distributed on the Classified? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th slots say x16/x8, x8, x16/x8, x8 respectively. So what is the first slot and how are these lanes being provided?
Here is my guess, but I would like EVGA to verify:
Slot 1 is x16/x8.........
Am I correct in thinking that even though the board has 40 lanes, it is still limited to 20 lanes of bandwidth provided by skylake? It's a shame that the FTW doesn't have USB 3.1, I don't really want a bigger case to support the classified. I might have to look at the Z170 Deluxe even though it is ugly in comparison to the Classified/FTW.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 13:30:43
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Is the PDF of the manual ready? Might answer some of these questions. It's not listed on the product page, just an empty link.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 15:47:52
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Am I correct in thinking that even though the board has 40 lanes, it is still limited to 20 lanes of bandwidth provided by skylake?
It's a shame that the FTW doesn't have USB 3.1, I don't really want a bigger case to support the classified. I might have to look at the Z170 Deluxe even though it is ugly in comparison to the Classified/FTW.
Skylake does not have 20 lanes. It has 16 lanes (and 4 additional lanes to connect to the PCH). The PCH has 20 lanes. You don't want your GPUs to be connected via the PCH since it would add latency and be bottlenecked by the 4 lanes between the PCH and the CPU.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 16:15:07
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Is there thunderbolt support on the classified (I need it for studio equipment)? I'm ordering today if so.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 16:55:29
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SgtSiff
Am I correct in thinking that even though the board has 40 lanes, it is still limited to 20 lanes of bandwidth provided by skylake?
It's a shame that the FTW doesn't have USB 3.1, I don't really want a bigger case to support the classified. I might have to look at the Z170 Deluxe even though it is ugly in comparison to the Classified/FTW.
Skylake does not have 20 lanes. It has 16 lanes (and 4 additional lanes to connect to the PCH). The PCH has 20 lanes. You don't want your GPUs to be connected via the PCH since it would add latency and be bottlenecked by the 4 lanes between the PCH and the CPU.
Hmm you're right. http://ark.intel.com/prod...to-4_20-GHz?q=i7-6700kOk for the Stinger though. Expansion options: PCI Express Revision 3.0 PCI Express Configurations ‡Up to 1x16 2x8 1x8+2x4 Max # of PCI Express Lanes 16 ..same as i7-4790k Also, DDR3 not DDR4.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/05 17:33:41
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Misleading marketing. "Award winning Creative® Core3D Audio".... Okay, can you guys provide the specs of the audio used? What DAC, headphone amp, op amps... Yeah, I am sure this onboard solution is not going to win any awards.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/06 13:14:11
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SgtSiff
Am I correct in thinking that even though the board has 40 lanes, it is still limited to 20 lanes of bandwidth provided by skylake?
It's a shame that the FTW doesn't have USB 3.1, I don't really want a bigger case to support the classified. I might have to look at the Z170 Deluxe even though it is ugly in comparison to the Classified/FTW.
Skylake does not have 20 lanes. It has 16 lanes (and 4 additional lanes to connect to the PCH). The PCH has 20 lanes. You don't want your GPUs to be connected via the PCH since it would add latency and be bottlenecked by the 4 lanes between the PCH and the CPU.
Thanks for the clarification. SLi 980ti won't be bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 in dual x8 right? So I suppose that really the FTW is a perfect board for SLI 980tis + an M.2 SSD. Shame that there is no USB 3.1 though!
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/06 15:15:36
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PCIe 3.0 x8 provides nearly the same performance as PCIe 3.0 x16 for modern high-end GPUs, so you won't really be bottlenecked. That is why nVidia allows SLI to work with either an x8 or an x16 link. That said, since the PCH does have 20 lanes, it is possible to get SLI to work using lanes from the PCH, but realize that those 16 or so lanes will only have 4 lanes to communicate back to the CPU (since that is the width of the DMI bus), so I would not recommend motherboard manufacturers to go that route. A better arrangement for 3-4 way SLI is to use a PEX 8747 chip to turn the CPU's 16 lanes into 32 lanes. Note, if all 4 GPUs are equally accessing the CPU at the same time, they will get the equivalent of 4 lanes (32Gbps) each. You use the PEX 8747 chip because that would just be the worst case scenario. Two GPUs may be accessing the CPU at full throttle while another two GPUs may not, allowing for those 2 GPUs that need access to have a ~64Gbps connection each. Of course you would see the best performance if your CPU doesn't have to use the PEX 8747 chip and can connect to 4 GPUs with x8 or x16 connections natively (like with Haswell-E/EP), but I don't think there is much of a difference (probably 5-10% performance for 3-4 way SLI configurations depending on how a game is programmed to need CPU-GPU communication).
post edited by Aggressor Prime - 2015/08/06 15:18:56
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/06 17:51:34
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Guys ASRock build one interesting thing for USB 3.1 with SATA Express connector... What you think can I install that on Rampage 5 Extreme, I don't have USB 3.1 and SATA Express stay for nothing... I mean I will off course wait to someone show some USB 3.1 device not to throw money without reason... But maybe is this solution for people with 28 lanes processors. I expect maybe and some other solution not PCI-E x4 card only... She use lot of resources for only two USB connectors. I could paint this ASRock in Classified...  I mean I never had plans to use SATA Express connectors on my board for some storage device. He is disabled at this moment, but maybe I could use for USB 3.1 A+C... I'm glad that I didn't payed 80-90e more for USB 3.1 version.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/07 12:24:28
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http://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/151-SS-E179.pdfSee page 12 for PCIe distribution on the Classified. A big thank you to EVGA for improving how much information you include in your manuals. In summary, the first x16 physical slot is x16/x8. It downgrades to x8 when any other x16 physical slot is occupied. Those other 8 lanes go to the PEX 8747 chip. From that chip, the second and fourth x16 physical slots operate at x16/x8. Those downgrade to x8 when the third and fifth x16 physical slots are occupied respectively (third and fifth x16 physical slots run at x8). So, for 4-way SLI, first GPU gets 8 lanes from CPU, second GPU gets 16 lanes from PEX 8747 chip, and third and fourth GPUs get 8 lanes each from PEX 8747 chip. I would personally prefer all 16 lanes from the CPU to be utilized by the PEX 8747 so that you don't have 3 GPUs fighting for 8 lanes of communication to the CPU. Instead, you would get equal access from all 4 GPUs. However, the benefit of EVGA's design is that if you only need 1 GPU, you don't have to worry about having a PCIe switch adding latency to your workload. You could probably still get that benefit if you use the following design: PCIe x16 slot 1 (x16/x8 from PEX 8747) PCIe x16 slot 2 (x16/x8 from CPU) PCIe x16 slot 3 (x8 from PEX 8747) Empty Space (or x4 PCIe from PCH) PCIe x16 slot 4 (x16/x8 from PEX 8747) PCIe x16 slot 5 (x8 from CPU) PCIe x16 slot 6 (x8 from PEX 8747) When either slots 1, 3, 4, or 6 are used, the lanes used to power slots 2 and 5 are switched to the PEX 8747 switch. That way, you get the best CPU-GPU communication for 1-2 GPUs, but also 3-4 GPUs. I would love it if just one company could produce a motherboard like this.
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/09 16:44:37
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No Micro-ATX board thats a let down.
I wan`t to get an EVGA board but no announcements of a Micro-ATX board. Does anyone think they will release one or should I just go for the Asus Gene board?
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/09 19:08:27
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What is the M.2 E slot on the classified for?
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/09 20:25:31
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slot M2.E is for wifi card , Is the same en Z97 FTW
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/09 21:25:47
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M.2 Key E is only for WiFi/Bluetooth, and M.2 key B or M are for SSD, I think..
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Re: EVGA Z170 Series!
2015/08/09 21:27:41
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