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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:16:57 (permalink)
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It worked for me I have a E759 too. Rev 1.0.
For those that it doesn't work try to reset cmos. Start bios settings from scratch. BTW my computer is not overclocked like crazy right now cause its not under water yet. I'm running my 920 to 3Ghz so that I can get 2000mhz on my memory. Maybe extreme overclock can affect it, I'm not sure.

Are you serious?  That is royally f-ed up

What OS and virtual machine are you running?  I am running Windows XP Mode on Microsoft's Virtual PC, using Windows 7 x64.

Can you PLEASE post ALL of your BIOS specs/exact configuration?

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/volkerw/archive/2007/05/21/hardware-virtualization-check-utility.aspx
Can you run this utility?

Thanks but unfortunately that tool says that it cannot reliably tell me if VT is enabled on a 64-bit system.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Use this tool instead :)
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:18:22 (permalink)
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It worked for me I have a E759 too. Rev 1.0.
For those that it doesn't work try to reset cmos. Start bios settings from scratch. BTW my computer is not overclocked like crazy right now cause its not under water yet. I'm running my 920 to 3Ghz so that I can get 2000mhz on my memory. Maybe extreme overclock can affect it, I'm not sure.

Are you serious?  That is royally f-ed up

What OS and virtual machine are you running?  I am running Windows XP Mode on Microsoft's Virtual PC, using Windows 7 x64.

Can you PLEASE post ALL of your BIOS specs/exact configuration?

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/volkerw/archive/2007/05/21/hardware-virtualization-check-utility.aspx
Can you run this utility?

Thanks but unfortunately that tool says that it cannot reliably tell me if VT is enabled on a 64-bit system.

Actually it does!!!!! If you set to disabled in BIOS, then it is enabled. I run tool again and it said HARDWARE Virtualization Enabled. So Evga has bug with this bios.  Disabled means Enabled and Enabled means Disabled. Jacob can you please look at this?

Hmmm...I don't think so...what it shows is this...


But, when I click on "Click for more!" I get this...

So all this says is that the processor offers VT capability, but that it cannot determine if it is actually enabled or not.

 
Use different tool
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Try with Enabled Bios (Disabled Actually) and Disabled Bios (Enabled Actually)
This tool detects right way. You were right about tool above.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:30:23 (permalink)
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Use different tool

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Try with Enabled Bios (Disabled Actually) and Disabled Bios (Enabled Actually)
This tool detects right way. You were right about tool above.

Just did and here are the results...still no go on VT, but you are right that something is reversed in the BIOS...
VT Enabled in BIOS

VT Disabled in BIOS

Attempt to run XP Mode with VT "Disabled" as per above screenshot...

 
I think that there is some sort of mistake but I think that their idea is right.  Probably something that should switch on when VT is enabled does but other parts do not and vice-versa causing VT to not work...

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:36:59 (permalink)
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Use different tool

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Try with Enabled Bios (Disabled Actually) and Disabled Bios (Enabled Actually)
This tool detects right way. You were right about tool above.

Just did and here are the results...still no go on VT, but you are right that something is reversed in the BIOS...
VT Enabled in BIOS

VT Disabled in BIOS

Attempt to run XP Mode with VT "Disabled" as per above screenshot...


I think that there is some sort of mistake but I think that their idea is right.  Probably something that should switch on when VT is enabled does but other parts do not and vice-versa causing VT to not work...


 
You will have to install new XP Mode. It gets screwed up. Try new install and let me know how it goes. I just did install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Hyper V and everything works cool. Also Vmware wrote in log that VT is enabled and working correctly.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:42:04 (permalink)
Notice two issues:

Entering into POST is still taking a while, nearly 15-30 seconds after I turn on my computer, POST / Beep occurs.  Its somewhat annoying.  It is either cold boot or just a reset.  POST took a heck of a while to get started.  This issue started back in ROM 77 for me when moving to 24GB of RAM.  Functionality is there, just an annoying thing.
 
Second issue, when (I assume any large capacity device would trigger this) my DROID2 or PSP is plugged in before POST and left plugged in, the POST freezes at "Verifying DMI Pool" until I remove it.  Not sure why it does that, and it doesn't do this with flash drives, but possibly a USB external hard drive could trigger this.  The only re-occuring theme is that both devices use memory cards?
 
Other than that, BIOS 81 ftw!  After I post, POST beep takes about 8 seconds to get to Verify DMI Pool, if it wasn't for Marvell and RAID, I would be in Windows in under 30 seconds.
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:45:32 (permalink)
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Use different tool

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Try with Enabled Bios (Disabled Actually) and Disabled Bios (Enabled Actually)
This tool detects right way. You were right about tool above.

Just did and here are the results...still no go on VT, but you are right that something is reversed in the BIOS...
VT Enabled in BIOS

VT Disabled in BIOS

Attempt to run XP Mode with VT "Disabled" as per above screenshot...


I think that there is some sort of mistake but I think that their idea is right.  Probably something that should switch on when VT is enabled does but other parts do not and vice-versa causing VT to not work...



You will have to install new XP Mode. It gets screwed up. Try new install and let me know how it goes. I just did install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Hyper V and everything works cool. Also Vmware wrote in log that VT is enabled and working correctly.

Doesn't work.  Same message, same problem.  I just tried it.  I even tried removing the Virtual PC and reinstalling that.
 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:49:21 (permalink)
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Use different tool

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
Try with Enabled Bios (Disabled Actually) and Disabled Bios (Enabled Actually)
This tool detects right way. You were right about tool above.

 
I just installed Windows XP Mode and it worked fine
 

Just did and here are the results...still no go on VT, but you are right that something is reversed in the BIOS...
VT Enabled in BIOS

VT Disabled in BIOS

Attempt to run XP Mode with VT "Disabled" as per above screenshot...


I think that there is some sort of mistake but I think that their idea is right.  Probably something that should switch on when VT is enabled does but other parts do not and vice-versa causing VT to not work...



You will have to install new XP Mode. It gets screwed up. Try new install and let me know how it goes. I just did install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Hyper V and everything works cool. Also Vmware wrote in log that VT is enabled and working correctly.

Doesn't work.  Same message, same problem.  I just tried it.  I even tried removing the Virtual PC and reinstalling that.




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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 18:51:18 (permalink)
Something is for sure messed up
1. Enabled in Bios means disabled
2. Disabled in Bios means enabled -> afterall works on 4WAY SLI mobo with i980x CPU
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 20:09:42 (permalink)
VT seems to be working fine for me here (FTW3) on a 930 at 4Ghz

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 21:10:27 (permalink)
VT is not working here either. I get the same issue. The MS tool says it's Not Enabled, although it's Enabled in the BIOS.
 
Is there anything else I need to do, like power off?
 
This is disappointing.
 
 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 21:18:10 (permalink)
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Thanks Jacob hope this fixes the Problem on my Bios I never shared it here in Forums but of all the fans that I have connected to the MotherBoard which are 90mm only he  CPU Fans Connected to cool down CPU is The Cooler Master V-10 thats fine, The third Fan show but the rest do not Show at all.Will Post if any results.
P.S. All Fans are Working and spinning  just under Bios some Do not show.

This is a hardware limitation of the Fintek controller on these boards.  It is therefore "by design" so you will unfortunately never see those fans.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 22:05:28 (permalink)
Just updated to 81, I tried to run the havdetection tool, it detects that my PC support virtualization even when I set from bios virtualization to disabled. enabled and disabled are same with this tool. I didn't try yet vmware or virtual windows xp .

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 22:26:50 (permalink)
Ok my testing on the VT support and double-pump issue (something I desperately needed fixed) with BIOS 81:
 
* Does VT work properly? Yes -- ran VMs with no issue
* Is the double-pump issue fixed? Yes -- but an odd exception :)
 
I've confirmed this over multiple test runs. With VT enabled in BIOS, the double-pump issue no longer occurs when soft rebooting from either Windows or Linux. Everything is as it should be -- almost :) There is this odd behaviour: if I run a VM in a session sometime, then later reboot, the double-pump issue occurs once, but not again on subsequent reboots until I again run a VM and then reboot, where it will double-pump just that once again. This is certainly an improvement over double-pumping all the time if VT is enabled, but it's an odd result.
 
Not sure what's going on with people who are reported Enabled is Disabled and Disabled is Enabled. I don't have that problem here.
 
Motherboard is Classified 3, E770. VM testing was done under Ubuntu Linux using Virtual Box.
 
Dejanh -- out if interest, and just to knock other possibilities out of the equation, have you tried running Virtual Box instead of Microsoft's Virtual PC to see if you get the same result? And also, if possible, a Linux boot over Windows? Stranger things have happened (especially where Windows is concerned).
 
   
post edited by martigen - 2011/04/13 22:31:16
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 22:36:16 (permalink)
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Ok my testing on the VT support and double-pump issue (something I desperately needed fixed) with BIOS 81:

* Does VT work properly? Yes -- ran VMs with no issue
* Is the double-pump issue fixed? Yes -- but an odd exception :)

I've confirmed this over multiple test runs. With VT enabled in BIOS, the double-pump issue no longer occurs when soft rebooting from either Windows or Linux. Everything is as it should be -- almost :) There is this odd behaviour: if I run a VM in a session sometime, then later reboot, the double-pump issue occurs once, but not again on subsequent reboots until I again run a VM and then reboot, where it will double-pump just that once again. This is certainly an improvement over double-pumping all the time if VT is enabled, but it's an odd result.

Not sure what's going on with people who are reported Enabled is Disabled and Disabled is Enabled. I don't have that problem here.

Motherboard is Classified 3, E770. VM testing was done under Ubuntu Linux using Virtual Box.

Dejanh -- out if interest, and just to knock other possibilities out of the equation, have you tried running Virtual Box instead of Microsoft's Virtual PC to see if you get the same result? And also, if possible, a Linux boot over Windows? Stranger things have happened (especially where Windows is concerned).

 


I can confirm that it works here too after i set it as disabled in BIOS -> which is actually enabled.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 22:36:57 (permalink)
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VT is not working here either. I get the same issue. The MS tool says it's Not Enabled, although it's Enabled in the BIOS.

I wouldn't trust detection tools -- the VT bits can be read from the CPU irrespective of BIOS as far as I'm aware -- run an actual VM to test if it works or not, which is really the only test that counts.
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/13 22:48:09 (permalink)
EVGA 770 Classified 3
 
  • cpu voltage does'nt lower at idle with speedstep when vcore is set manually.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 00:26:55 (permalink)
Hello
 
On my E762 (BIOS 81) doesn't work the VT. I tried enable and disable.
Because I didn't find the solution I put back teh BIOS 77.
 
I experienced that I have to give more power to CPU voltage in same frequency. Before I used 1,2V, after I used 1,225V.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 04:49:46 (permalink)
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VT is not working here either. I get the same issue. The MS tool says it's Not Enabled, although it's Enabled in the BIOS.

I wouldn't trust detection tools -- the VT bits can be read from the CPU irrespective of BIOS as far as I'm aware -- run an actual VM to test if it works or not, which is really the only test that counts.


I did, tried Windows XP mode, got the Hardware VT error, same as someone else posted here.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 04:59:12 (permalink)
Can someone post 80 Beta?
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 05:12:33 (permalink)
here is bios 80 beta link
 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?&m=6305&mpage=1

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 05:32:56 (permalink)
fq360

here is bios 80 beta link

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?&m=6305&mpage=1

Thanks.
I found for my eVga 4WAY Sli board
http://cdn.evga.com/bios/E762_80.iso


 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 05:50:36 (permalink)
sorry for my bad english, but is there a methode to update bios 81 with a floppy, because I haven no burner, or should I use a usb - stick? I never used a stick most of the time i used a floppy.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 06:18:10 (permalink)
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sorry for my bad english, but is there a methode to update bios 81 with a floppy, because I haven no burner, or should I use a usb - stick? I never used a stick most of the time i used a floppy.

 
Hi. Most people seem to have good success with the USB stick, I would try that. There are instructions on this board somewhere. Check Jacob's links.
 
 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 07:10:48 (permalink)
I can confirm that 81 borks the XP Virtual Machine and it doesn't work with either setting - so if the BIOS switch is logically reversed, that doesn't help (me).  When I rolled back to 80beta, my VM returned - with everything installed in that environment intact.
 
If 81 does work and only requires a rebuild of the XP Mode virtual machine (irregardless of toggle logic) I find that option unacceptable because having to rebuild the entire XP Mode virtual platform shouldn't be required simply because of a BIOS update.  That would be like having to rebuild your primary platform because of a BIOS turn.  No frickin way!
 
Disappointing BIOS management in my estimation.  eVGA has lost some confidence points with me.  81 is simply another Beta release that obviously didn't go through proper testing...
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 07:24:39 (permalink)
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I can confirm that 81 borks the XP Virtual Machine and it doesn't work with either setting - so if the BIOS switch is logically reversed, that doesn't help (me).  When I rolled back to 80beta, my VM returned - with everything installed in that environment intact.

If 81 does work and only requires a rebuild of the XP Mode virtual machine (irregardless of toggle logic) I find that option unacceptable because having to rebuild the entire XP Mode virtual platform shouldn't be required simply because of a BIOS update.  That would be like having to rebuild your primary platform because of a BIOS turn.  No frickin way!

Disappointing BIOS management in my estimation.  eVGA has lost some confidence points with me.  81 is simply another Beta release that obviously didn't go through proper testing...

To be fair EVGA has included the VT double-pump fix in response to many people (including me) who find it unacceptable that a machine hard resets between boots just because VT support is enabled (regardless of whether it's used or not). This sounds like a fix that was previously added and taken away because it caused problems for some people (before I purchased my first EVGA board).
 
I respect the fact EVGA has added it again thanks to people asking for a fix. I don't think they expected it to work perfectly. It would be great if it did, but I guess that's why they call them Beta releases.
 
Fortunately the fix does work for me on my E770, VT works works and the double-pump is fixed, with respect to the odd behaviour I detailed earlier -- but this is still preferred over no fix at all.
 
It sounds like those that are having issues are based around E759/E762. Considering they're all still X58, I wonder what hardware differences could be at fault for this.
 
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 07:24:57 (permalink)
Seems like the fix from 49 was just cut and pasted into the 80 Beta and released as 81. 
 
EDIT: I have a 758 and have the issue.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 07:39:21 (permalink)
My board is the E760 and I find it unacceptable that on some boards, perhaps even some Revs of boards, that things keeping flipping around with these BIOS revs.  That's the problem with pushing BIOS releases for a FULL range of boards.  Maybe more individualized releases are in order.
 
In any event, addressing the double pump issue is certainly important but disabling VM functionality for some by way of fixing double pump for others seems a bit wonky.  Solid functionality should be the priority over POST loops (undesired resets) as it were.  There should be two levels of BIOS releases (at a minimum); those that are solid functional releases, and maybe segregated by board model, and then Betas that address the more esoteric things - otherwise it's non-stop software development creep and a ball of wax not easily managed - as indicated by this 81 release.  In other words, a solidly working VM (VT) machine for all is better than a quicker POSTing BIOS for a minority of others.  Just sayin...
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 07:50:07 (permalink)
I wil have to revert back to Beta 80 which was quite good release. Cold reboot does not bother me, but i need propert VT!!!!
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 08:52:20 (permalink)
If you revert to an older bios (pre 80 beta), does it rewrite all the RAID/Ethernet/AHCI ROM bioses as well?

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 81 Released 2011/04/14 09:08:24 (permalink)
Yaboze

If you revert to an older bios (pre 80 beta), does it rewrite all the RAID/Ethernet/AHCI ROM bioses as well?


Yes.
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