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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:36:12 (permalink)
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:41:37 (permalink)
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It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

 


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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:42:01 (permalink)
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It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

Jacob, can you please answer the questions below directly...
 
Gigabyte is using a different version of Award BIOS, but Award BIOS nonetheless, 1MB (8Mbit) in size, and they are able support *all* of the features that EVGA offers in addition to supporting the latest RAID ROM.  Their BIOS is packed (only a few KB left) but everything is there.  They even have their logo in there (useless, but just illustrating a point).  So, with that in mind...
 
1. Why do you keep insisting on the BIOS not having enough space?
2. Why do we have two seemingly identical BIOSINIT.BIN modules in the BIOS, one living in the BIOS HOLE and the other in the compressed space, each taking up ~180K of BIOS space?
 
So far these has been no explanation on this.  I will reiterate again, just because some Joe from Taiwan is telling you that the BIOS does not have enough space, does not mean that it really does not have enough space.  They could be simply trying to brush you off.
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:42:41 (permalink)
Kamarad

This may sould like a strange questions, but I gotta ask it:

Is it possible to replace the chip itself with one that has more space?

Yeah, sure.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:44:56 (permalink)
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Kamarad

This may sould like a strange questions, but I gotta ask it:

Is it possible to replace the chip itself with one that has more space?

Yeah, sure.

I tried that.  I actually purchased a bunch of 16Mbit chips (2MB) but I was so far unable to program any of them successfully, and, I am not sure that would make any practical difference in this case.  There has been no reasoning provided behind the "lack of space" argument.  There is absolutely no physical lack of space on the chip.  This is blatantly false and it is starting to irritate me.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:49:51 (permalink)
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It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

Jacob, can you please answer the questions below directly...

Gigabyte is using a different version of Award BIOS, but Award BIOS nonetheless, 1MB (8Mbit) in size, and they are able support *all* of the features that EVGA offers in addition to supporting the latest RAID ROM.  Their BIOS is packed (only a few KB left) but everything is there.  They even have their logo in there (useless, but just illustrating a point).  So, with that in mind...

1. Why do you keep insisting on the BIOS not having enough space?
2. Why do we have two seemingly identical BIOSINIT.BIN modules in the BIOS, one living in the BIOS HOLE and the other in the compressed space, each taking up ~180K of BIOS space?

So far these has been no explanation on this.  I will reiterate again, just because some Joe from Taiwan is telling you that the BIOS does not have enough space, does not mean that it really does not have enough space.  They could be simply trying to brush you off.

Dejan

 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:49:59 (permalink)
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My gut feeling was that the BIOS in its initial design was written based on very old components and that eVGA did not leave room for future upgrades with varying size of different components. For proof, they had to remove even the BIOS logo very shortly after the release of these boards to make room for elements in BIOS they did not plan for. I think the BIOS cannot be upgraded unless they completely rewrite it with a different structure and eVGA is not going to do that. If they were going to invest in it, they would have done it a long time ago. In the meantime they can only keep our hopes up for another year until Intel releases the new platform and they can release new hardware. This "we are working on it" for this many months makes no sense. Either you eVGA is not working very hard or they are not working on it at all.  In either case, Gigabyte is looking better and better to me. The BIOS could and should have been completely rewritten by now had they put a couple of guys on it.

I too believe this unless EVGA actually manages to fix the bios with the latest everything on it. I really hope we don't get half done updated bios. I really would like to see my Classified updated as much as possible just as other motherboard manufacturers are able to do so in their current/new X58 motherboards. I for one do not plan to upgrade my whole system till the X68 comes out and that is still a year+ away. Also we have to remember that they don't release their "Classified" boards right away so we probably going to have to wait even longer. So that is why I really want my board to be with the latest everything so it can compete with other systems till then.
 
Yes, Gigabyte and Asus boards looking really nice right about now. For me at least it will depend on what EVGA can come up with when they release the news about the bios update. If their response is not good enough it might be time for me to jump ship.
 
I still have faith in EVGA and their team and that is why I'm still waiting. I hope they can come through with the update.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:51:32 (permalink)
Kamarad

This may sould like a strange questions, but I gotta ask it:

Is it possible to replace the chip itself with one that has more space?


That might be the answer, the EVGA lads and lasses along with Award and Intel techs have been looking at all the hard complicated stuff and the answer might be so simple like you said its been overlooked

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:55:14 (permalink)
oh well dejanh has answered that  quick as a flash it could of been an option


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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:55:59 (permalink)
EVGA_JacobF

<SNIP>

Gigabyte owns the Award code.

 
If I understand correctly; the Gigabyte BIOS is proprietary, then?
 
And therefore, eVGA has not a hope in hell of using said code to update their BIOS?

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:57:23 (permalink)
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dejanh

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It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

Jacob, can you please answer the questions below directly...

Gigabyte is using a different version of Award BIOS, but Award BIOS nonetheless, 1MB (8Mbit) in size, and they are able support *all* of the features that EVGA offers in addition to supporting the latest RAID ROM.  Their BIOS is packed (only a few KB left) but everything is there.  They even have their logo in there (useless, but just illustrating a point).  So, with that in mind...

1. Why do you keep insisting on the BIOS not having enough space?
2. Why do we have two seemingly identical BIOSINIT.BIN modules in the BIOS, one living in the BIOS HOLE and the other in the compressed space, each taking up ~180K of BIOS space?

So far these has been no explanation on this.  I will reiterate again, just because some Joe from Taiwan is telling you that the BIOS does not have enough space, does not mean that it really does not have enough space.  They could be simply trying to brush you off.

Dejan


Gigabyte owns the Award code.


Lol! That sucks! I did not know that. Maybe you guys can ask them for help?  I hope in your future motherboard designs you do not use a bios that is owned by your competition! Lol! For real though that sucks big time. No wonder you guys haven't found a solution. Wow.
post edited by lcabezas - 2011/03/10 10:01:06

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:57:51 (permalink)
@EVGA_JacobF
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dejanh

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EVGA_JacobF

It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

Jacob, can you please answer the questions below directly...

Gigabyte is using a different version of Award BIOS, but Award BIOS nonetheless, 1MB (8Mbit) in size, and they are able support *all* of the features that EVGA offers in addition to supporting the latest RAID ROM.  Their BIOS is packed (only a few KB left) but everything is there.  They even have their logo in there (useless, but just illustrating a point).  So, with that in mind...

1. Why do you keep insisting on the BIOS not having enough space?
2. Why do we have two seemingly identical BIOSINIT.BIN modules in the BIOS, one living in the BIOS HOLE and the other in the compressed space, each taking up ~180K of BIOS space?

So far these has been no explanation on this.  I will reiterate again, just because some Joe from Taiwan is telling you that the BIOS does not have enough space, does not mean that it really does not have enough space.  They could be simply trying to brush you off.

Dejan


Gigabyte owns the Award code.

Wow, this just blew me away...are you saying that their BIOS is fully proprietary or that they have an exclusive license with Phoenix-Award that only they are allowed to use the specific BIOS?
 
Also, I really think that I may be able to help you guys brainstorm a solution to this problem.  I'm pretty good with breaking down complicated issues into something that can be solved and while I do not have direct hardware engineering experience, I am a software engineer by training so that bit of knowledge helps as well.  If you can give me details on the problem and what you have tried so far unsuccessfully I am sure that I can somehow help...more heads at this the better.  I am not even asking to be paid for it.  I just literally want to help if I can at all.
post edited by dejanh - 2011/03/10 10:00:50
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:02:53 (permalink)
Well, if Gigabyte can buy a BIOS from Award...
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:04:04 (permalink)
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<SNIP>

Gigabyte owns the Award code.


If I understand correctly; the Gigabyte BIOS is proprietary, then?

And therefore, eVGA has not a hope in hell of using said code to update their BIOS?


It seems like it. That is why they have to find a work around instead. That was  disappointing news right there.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:09:44 (permalink)
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 Gigabyte owns the Award code.

 
Jacob, thank you very much for all the work you have done.
 
everything is clear now...
 
 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:11:27 (permalink)
Dejanh has got around and moded the BIOS can yourself Dejanh and Evga work together on a way to fix it, or is this to much time cost and effort for Evga and Dejanh to do

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:36:33 (permalink)
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Gigabyte owns the Award code.


Now that's really an "Intelligent Innovation"... Just use your competitor's bios.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:42:05 (permalink)
dejanh

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It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.

Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.

Jacob, can you please answer the questions below directly...

Gigabyte is using a different version of Award BIOS, but Award BIOS nonetheless, 1MB (8Mbit) in size, and they are able support *all* of the features that EVGA offers in addition to supporting the latest RAID ROM.  Their BIOS is packed (only a few KB left) but everything is there.  They even have their logo in there (useless, but just illustrating a point).  So, with that in mind...

1. Why do you keep insisting on the BIOS not having enough space?
2. Why do we have two seemingly identical BIOSINIT.BIN modules in the BIOS, one living in the BIOS HOLE and the other in the compressed space, each taking up ~180K of BIOS space?

So far these has been no explanation on this.  I will reiterate again, just because some Joe from Taiwan is telling you that the BIOS does not have enough space, does not mean that it really does not have enough space.  They could be simply trying to brush you off.

Dejan


Gigabyte owns the Award code.

Wow, this just blew me away...are you saying that their BIOS is fully proprietary or that they have an exclusive license with Phoenix-Award that only they are allowed to use the specific BIOS?

Also, I really think that I may be able to help you guys brainstorm a solution to this problem.  I'm pretty good with breaking down complicated issues into something that can be solved and while I do not have direct hardware engineering experience, I am a software engineer by training so that bit of knowledge helps as well.  If you can give me details on the problem and what you have tried so far unsuccessfully I am sure that I can somehow help...more heads at this the better.  I am not even asking to be paid for it.  I just literally want to help if I can at all.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 10:43:02 (permalink)
BIOS is gone anyway. Welcome EFI.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 11:15:03 (permalink)
I don't think it means that Gigabyte own AWARD. Just that they own the code they are using. They probably modified it on their own. That being said, ASUS uses different (newer) BIOS versions on their old boards (P6T Deluxe). This makes me wonder why eVGA chose to use this rev of the AWARD bios which had so many limitations and why it cannot be changed.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 11:15:20 (permalink)
Since the rom update is looking quite difficult to achieve, is there any chance the rest of the issues will be resolved in the meantime?
(ie double pump when virtualisation is enabled, vcore not dropping with multiplier when using anything but auto, error when using certain external raid cards and not being able to boot to os , resume from sleep problems etc etc)
This is the flagship series motherboards from evga and in actuality suffer from problems not even cheap motherboards from competitors have.
The boards are gems under extreme cooling and for competitive benchmarking, but once you are done with that and would like to use the boards for building a fast 24/7 gaming-machine/workstation they are simply a torture to work with.
If we cannot get the updated raid rom in a timely fashion could we at least get the rest of the issues fixed?
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 11:32:36 (permalink)
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ASUS uses different (newer) BIOS versions on their old boards (P6T Deluxe).

They use AMI, as do newer EVGA boards like P55 and P67.
 
Anyways I didn't say all hope is lost, like I said we have made some real progress and may have a workaround soon, but right now it is too early for me to say a definitive yes or give any ETA.


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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 11:39:23 (permalink)
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Since the rom update is looking quite difficult to achieve, is there any chance the rest of the issues will be resolved in the meantime?
(ie double pump when virtualisation is enabled, vcore not dropping with multiplier when using anything but auto, error when using certain external raid cards and not being able to boot to os , resume from sleep problems etc etc)
This is the flagship series motherboards from evga and in actuality suffer from problems not even cheap motherboards from competitors have.
The boards are gems under extreme cooling and for competitive benchmarking, but once you are done with that and would like to use the boards for building a fast 24/7 gaming-machine/workstation they are simply a torture to work with.
If we cannot get the updated raid rom in a timely fashion could we at least get the rest of the issues fixed?

 
Our focus right now is getting all the latest microcode, RAID Roms, etc.
 
After that we will tackle the other requests.


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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 11:40:31 (permalink)
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 Wow, this just blew me away...are you saying that their BIOS is fully proprietary or that they have an exclusive license with Phoenix-Award that only they are allowed to use the specific BIOS?

Also, I really think that I may be able to help you guys brainstorm a solution to this problem.  I'm pretty good with breaking down complicated issues into something that can be solved and while I do not have direct hardware engineering experience, I am a software engineer by training so that bit of knowledge helps as well.  If you can give me details on the problem and what you have tried so far unsuccessfully I am sure that I can somehow help...more heads at this the better.  I am not even asking to be paid for it.  I just literally want to help if I can at all.

 
It would be nice, but there's gotta be some legal issue we're not aware of that would keep EVGA from being able to do something like this. What dejanh has done is a great thing for sure, but there has to be a reason as to why EVGA can't simply do the same thing, and perhaps it may involve legalities with Gigabyte owning the code? Who knows, but it's nice that there's at least progress being made (as per Jacob's earlier post).

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 12:18:12 (permalink)
My new board is going through customs these days and I think I will have it next week. So, according to my plan,  that would be the time to expect the new bios
lol
ps: thanks, Jacob, for the situation update 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 13:25:21 (permalink)
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hadji_a

Since the rom update is looking quite difficult to achieve, is there any chance the rest of the issues will be resolved in the meantime?
(ie double pump when virtualisation is enabled, vcore not dropping with multiplier when using anything but auto, error when using certain external raid cards and not being able to boot to os , resume from sleep problems etc etc)
This is the flagship series motherboards from evga and in actuality suffer from problems not even cheap motherboards from competitors have.
The boards are gems under extreme cooling and for competitive benchmarking, but once you are done with that and would like to use the boards for building a fast 24/7 gaming-machine/workstation they are simply a torture to work with.
If we cannot get the updated raid rom in a timely fashion could we at least get the rest of the issues fixed?


Our focus right now is getting all the latest microcode, RAID Roms, etc.

After that we will tackle the other requests.


Sounds good to me. I hope maybe we can get Intel AHCI update too with Raid Rom. One step at a time though.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 13:29:23 (permalink)
Hello Jacob,
 
There is one saying:
 
"Do not kick someone if you already knocked him down"
 
With this in mind I would not post a single word of criticism regarding this issue :)
I have full respect for EVGA having guts to admit that X58 line is permanently screwed with such poor BIOS choice.
 
Hat down to Jacob for his involvement and all the efforts in community. I hope some EVGA big shots are reading forums, because Jacob is the ONLY reason why I would stick with EVGA in the future.
 
With this being said Jacob please do inform me if you plan to leave EVGA :)
 
good luck with  BIOS and everything,
Mirko
 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 13:58:22 (permalink)
mipko

Hello Jacob,

There is one saying:

"Do not kick someone if you already knocked him down"

With this in mind I would not post a single word of criticism regarding this issue :)
I have full respect for EVGA having guts to admit that X58 line is permanently screwed with such poor BIOS choice.

Hat down to Jacob for his involvement and all the efforts in community. I hope some EVGA big shots are reading forums, because Jacob is the ONLY reason why I would stick with EVGA in the future.

With this being said Jacob please do inform me if you plan to leave EVGA :)

good luck with  BIOS and everything,
Mirko



I fully agree with you. After this fiasco if it wasn't for Jacob I would jump ship. Thanks Jacob for your work. Hope everything turns out good with the Bios updates.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 14:03:14 (permalink)
Well, my offer to help is still on the table.  Also, it would be nice if my second set of questions got answered
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 14:15:37 (permalink)
Cheers. Let's see what comes out of all of this.

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