EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 09:46:53 (permalink)
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I filled in a support ticket as well. I am getting fed up with of waiting and "begging" for an update...

Most probably I won't be answered in the ticket either, like the rest of you guys. It really is strarting to look that EVGA doesn't value their customers anymore...

If that's the case, what would be the difference by going for Asus or Gigabyte for my next rig? I have choosen EVGA mainly because their excellent support, however if that's gone, why should I stay and not decide to go for something else instead?


I recently jumped ship from EVGA to Asus, but mainly due to the fact that I screwed up and bent some of my socket pins and I needed a board fast and the E770 was nowhere to be found.  I got the Rampage III Extreme and its latest BIOS still has the Intel RAID ROM that EVGA was using up until BIOS 78.

So, if one is jumping ship, I recommend you do some research.  You might even take a step backward.  From other comments here it seems that Gigabyte does have the newer RAID ROM for Intel and also has a BIOS layout very similar to EVGA's.  Asus BIOS is very different than EVGA and I am still getting used to it.  The R3E also has a crazy issue with not remembering the boot drive sequence.

The Gigabyte X58 OC looks very interesting, but I could not wait anymore.


Stupid IE9. Causes me to post a blank message.

Anyways... If you did look around, you would have known it is possible to update the Asus motherboard bios with the latest Intel RAID ROM, with EVGAs bios this is not possible, or at least not possible for us users.

I have an Asus P5Q Deluxe modded with the latest Intel RAID ROM and it works perfectly!
post edited by MvdL79 - 2011/03/09 09:50:21
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 11:45:57 (permalink)
Cant they just replace the bios chip for a larger one and be done with this prob already? I know costly but they have done simular fixes in the past with the 680i MB.

  
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 14:01:58 (permalink)
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Cant they just replace the bios chip for a larger one and be done with this prob already? I know costly but they have done simular fixes in the past with the 680i MB.

No, it is not a chip size limitation, it is a BIOS limitation.  This version of Award BIOS is not compatible with the new ROM in its current form.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 15:31:35 (permalink)
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No, it is not a chip size limitation, it is a BIOS limitation.  This version of Award BIOS is not compatible with the new ROM in its current form.

 
And no other Award BIOS version is compatible with eVGA motherboards?

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 15:56:30 (permalink)
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dejanh

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No, it is not a chip size limitation, it is a BIOS limitation.  This version of Award BIOS is not compatible with the new ROM in its current form.


And no other Award BIOS version is compatible with eVGA motherboards?

No, that's not true.  The Award BIOS version used by Gigabyte is compatible.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 16:00:20 (permalink)
So my next board has to be a Gigabyte?

  
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 16:11:13 (permalink)
Mine will be. Your ex-980X is waiting for a board right now....

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 21:13:15 (permalink)
wewt got 4 brand new ssd drives from corsair, now to find a MB they will work on since eVGA wont fix thier junk.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/09 23:34:47 (permalink)
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 00:00:43 (permalink)
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wewt got 4 brand new ssd drives from corsair, now to find a MB they will work on since eVGA wont fix thier junk.


Nicely put. :P

I got 4x Mach Xtreme Technology DS Series SSD's and it's not being recognised by my EVGA E762, due to the f******* old Intel RAID Rom. On my updated Asus P5Q Deluxe (modded with the latest Intel RAID ROM) it works flawlessly. However that's my work PC and not my gaming PC.

I am now starting to get really pi$$ed at EVGA. It takes forever for a status update, let alone releasing an updated bios with the latest (or close to the latest) Intel RAID ROM. Bah...

I think I have been patient enough, almost 2 months ago when I (and others) started to talk about a updated Intel RAID ROM drivers. At first they said it was impossible and it wouldn't be updated at all. Then denjanh proved otherwise by updating the other ROMS and showing it is possible to update the Intel RAID ROM, however the bios needed to be redesigned (or something like that; look at denjanh posts).

Support tickets aren't answered, nobody of the staff keeps us informed about the progress on the forums. EVGA is starting to be completely useless. EVGA is starting to show their true colors; just a temporarily hype with a lot of false promises and trying to cash-out at the right time.

And yet, still the computer scene wonders why so many people are going over to consoles. That's easy, when you get a treatment like this, after spending thousands of Euro's on getting your rig the way you want it to be, by buying the best of the best, you cannot escape the fact that it feels like an a$$ rape.

I think I have been to patient long enough, now I am going to share my experience and my opinion on several other forums and put in some reviews as well.

Oh well, EVGA probably doesn't care, cause they hardly visit the forums anyways. Their are to pre-occupied by their personal $hit, instead of caring about loyal customers. As long as they can post a few pictures on their Twitter-accounts of their new rig, they are happy. And the customers? Who cares. They have already paid top-money for their products and now they see the true face of EVGA. Intelligent Innovations? Nah... More likely; Intelligent Scamming. And Compromise if for losers, should be fixed to EVGA is for losers and their money.

As you can understand after 2 months, with hardly any updates, progress updates or released updated Intel RAID ROM biosses, I really really *f-word here* pi$$ed.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 00:17:06 (permalink)
This whole fiasco sounds very familiar to me.
Those of you that know me, know that for years i used DFI mobo's.
Because EVGA messed us around in Europe with the release (or non realease) of the Classified, i went with the DFI UT x58.
It worked fine with CO's, but as soon as the DO's were released the board simply did not work properly with them. WE were constantly being told by DFI "we are working on it". To this day there has been no solution. And we all know what has happened to DFI since.
I now have an E760, that should i want to buy and install the latest of SSD's in Raid, i'm up the creek without a paddle.
My guess is that this will Never be fixed, because just like DFI, EVGA don't give a monkey's arse. Needless to say my next mobo will not be an EVGA, and in all likelyhood i will never buy one again.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 00:28:40 (permalink)
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This whole fiasco sounds very familiar to me.
Those of you that know me, know that for years i used DFI mobo's.
Because EVGA messed us around in Europe with the release (or non realease) of the Classified, i went with the DFI UT x58.
It worked fine with CO's, but as soon as the DO's were released the board simply did not work properly with them. WE were constantly being told by DFI "we are working on it". To this day there has been no solution. And we all know what has happened to DFI since.
I now have an E760, that should i want to buy and install the latest of SSD's in Raid, i'm up the creek without a paddle.
My guess is that this will Never be fixed, because just like DFI, EVGA don't give a monkey's arse. Needless to say my next mobo will not be an EVGA, and in all likelyhood i will never buy one again.


Yup... The similarities between EVGA, Abit and DFI are frightning... :S

I have used Abit in the past (which went down the drain) and than I moved over to DFI. First a nforce 4 board (DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert) and then followed by a DFI Lanparty UT X58 T3eH8. While the nforce 4 board was pretty good, the T3eH8 sucked in every way. At first it was al right, but then I noticed increased temperatures on the chipsets and making my system completely unstable. Hitting almost 100 degrees Celsius and their stupid so-called "Freezer"-solution didn't do anything. After contacting support, which was pointless, I decided to remove the chipset heatsinks, cleaning them and replace them with better TIM. This resulted in lower temperatures, but still pretty high.

After a short while, again I noticed similiar problems concerning heat. I wanted to RMA the board, but DFI wasn't willing to. I took my losses and used the DFI for a short while. Not long after DFI, or at least the Lanparty part, went bankrupt.

With EVGA it's like history repeats itself. I think in the near future I am better off by picking a motherboard from the big 2 (Asus or Gigabyte), instead of trusting my feeling and go for the so-called "best"....
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 01:54:09 (permalink)
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This whole fiasco sounds very familiar to me.
Those of you that know me, know that for years i used DFI mobo's.
Because EVGA messed us around in Europe with the release (or non realease) of the Classified, i went with the DFI UT x58.
It worked fine with CO's, but as soon as the DO's were released the board simply did not work properly with them. WE were constantly being told by DFI "we are working on it". To this day there has been no solution. And we all know what has happened to DFI since.
I now have an E760, that should i want to buy and install the latest of SSD's in Raid, i'm up the creek without a paddle.
My guess is that this will Never be fixed, because just like DFI, EVGA don't give a monkey's arse. Needless to say my next mobo will not be an EVGA, and in all likelyhood i will never buy one again.


Yup... The similarities between EVGA, Abit and DFI are frightning... :S

I have used Abit in the past (which went down the drain) and than I moved over to DFI. First a nforce 4 board (DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert) and then followed by a DFI Lanparty UT X58 T3eH8. While the nforce 4 board was pretty good, the T3eH8 sucked in every way. At first it was al right, but then I noticed increased temperatures on the chipsets and making my system completely unstable. Hitting almost 100 degrees Celsius and their stupid so-called "Freezer"-solution didn't do anything. After contacting support, which was pointless, I decided to remove the chipset heatsinks, cleaning them and replace them with better TIM. This resulted in lower temperatures, but still pretty high.

After a short while, again I noticed similiar problems concerning heat. I wanted to RMA the board, but DFI wasn't willing to. I took my losses and used the DFI for a short while. Not long after DFI, or at least the Lanparty part, went bankrupt.

With EVGA it's like history repeats itself. I think in the near future I am better off by picking a motherboard from the big 2 (Asus or Gigabyte), instead of trusting my feeling and go for the so-called "best"....

I totally appreciate where you are coming from. I can honestly tell you though that the BIOS is one of the top priority things the company is dealing with right now. Hurdles. Also, EVGA in the end, will ultimately not forget about you.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 02:13:13 (permalink)
thinking its time to go back to old faithful in asus, they been around forever, and i've never had an issue with them a buddy of mine turned me onto evga. tbh i wonder if they are following the path of dfi tbh you hardly see any evga stock at any stores any more, several major retailers drop them. It wouldn't surprise me to see that announcement any time soon.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 02:36:28 (permalink)
Well I received an "answer" on my ticket I submitted. Pretty useless, however I will post it here.

My original question was:

When will there be an updated bios?!

We are kept in the dark on the forums and people are getting very disappointed with EVGA's lack of support.

If this keeps up, myself and others will start looking for different brand hardware for our new rigs.

I always thought EVGA to be excellent, but it's starting to look like Abit and DFI. And we all know where that ended... Sigh...



EVGA (Nick) responded:

EVGA is looking at all options to update the raid rom and if possible, it will be updated.



And I replied back on that, just a minute go, with:

If it's not updated, this will be last EVGA purchase I ever made. I am really disappointed how loyal customers are treated. We are completely left in the dark on the forums. No updates, no progress reports, no nothing.

It seems a lot of people are already getting fed up because of the lack of updates and progress. I am very disappointed in EVGA at the moment, cause my 4 SSD's aren't recognised by the current Intel RAID ROM supplied by EVGA, while the 4 SSD's in RAID 0 work flawlessly on my Asus P5Q Deluxe (which I modded to the latstest version of the Intel RAID ROM available).

Maybe it's good to remind you, that if this doesn't get resolved, or we are kept in the dark, than a lot of customers will completely lose faith in EVGA and move to other brands? The only reason I have chosen EVGA is because of their "great" support and their loyalty towards customers. When this is gone, what other choice do I have except for moving on?

It's weird that EVGA advertises everywhere with bold one-liners as: "Intelligent Innovations" and "Compromise is for losers". I cannot qualify the current bios and it's layout as an so-called "intelligent innovation" and if the bios cannot be updated that EVGA is the one who is compromising and that makes EVGA the biggest loser here.

Oh well, I can only hope on monday there will be a new bios available, with the latest (or next to latest) Intel RAID ROM, so I can finally enjoy my 4 (very) expensive SSD's in RAID 0.


Oh and on the sidenote; this EVGA staff member (Nick) was exactly the same person who said that it was completely impossible to update the Intel RAID ROM 2 months ago. Denjanh proved that otherwise.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 04:11:27 (permalink)
It's not about keeping customers in the dark. EVGA has been and still currently is looking at all possible solutions for this, including working directly with Award as Jacob previously stated, and if it can be updated, it will.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 04:24:55 (permalink)
Oh man... how long does it take to give us an answer to simple question:
 
Q: Is it possible to update RAID ROM ?
 
Please be aware that I'm not asking WHEN you will do that. I'm asking you directly about EVGA product not about Gigabyte or Asus product.
It is pretty embarrassing not being able to give us the answer to that question.
As I said many times, I would gladly accept the answer that EVGA is NOT capable of providing RAID ROM update. But please for God sake tell us that. 
I have 2 RAID controllers sitting in my desk because EVGA BIOS is  not compatible with them. I have 600 euros SSD RAID which is not fully used due to obsolete RAID ROM... 
 
thank you in advance for answering the question
M
 
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I do not find the generic sentence "EVGA is looking into this" as an answer. You should know if it is or it is not possible to update ROM. 

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 04:29:36 (permalink)
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Oh man... how long does it take to give us an answer to simple question:

Q: Is it possible to update RAID ROM ?

Please be aware that I'm not asking WHEN you will do that. I'm asking you directly about EVGA product not about Gigabyte or Asus product.
It is pretty embarrassing not being able to give us the answer to that question.
As I said many times, I would gladly accept the answer that EVGA is NOT capable of providing RAID ROM update. But please for God sake tell us that. 
I have 2 RAID controllers sitting in my desk because EVGA BIOS is  not compatible with them. I have 600 euros SSD RAID which is not fully used due to obsolete RAID ROM... 

thank you in advance for answering the question
M

P.S.
I do not find the generic sentence "EVGA is looking into this" as an answer. You should know if it is or it is not possible to update ROM. 


I doubt you can expect another "educated" answer from Nick. :P
Since EVGA staff have replied in this thread today, the next response will probably be within 3 or 4 weeks if we are lucky.

I already know the next response as well "We are working on it!" or "We are still looking into it!"
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 04:38:28 (permalink)
mipko

Oh man... how long does it take to give us an answer to simple question:

Q: Is it possible to update RAID ROM ?


 
That's what we are working on figuring out and this question has been answered each time it has been asked.
 

 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 05:14:22 (permalink)
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That's what we are working on figuring out and this question has been answered each time it has been asked.
 

 
Hello Nick,
 
Thank you for prompt answer.
I really do appreciate all hard work you and your colleagues are putting into this issue since DejanH made moded BIOS. I strongly disagree with harsh attitude pointed toward EVGA reps that provides us with info on this forum.
 
However, it is a bit strange to me that EVGA was not aware of the issue prior dejanh BIOS mod. It is even worse that after almost two months EVGA is not aware if it is possible to provide ROM update. That's what bothers me the most. Prior dejanh BIOS mod EVGA was clear that it is not possible to do any RAID ROM upgrade.
 
It insults my IQ if you think you can sell us these generic sentences as answers after this chain of events and this much time since this issue erupted. 
It leaves me with conclusion that EVGA does not have a clue what to do with its own product... 
 
It is no big deal to figure If EVGA decides to do complete BIOS rewrite than it would be 100% possible to get latest RAID ROM. But it costs the money and requires man power. I do not want to know EVGA business policy and I do not have intention of getting into prognosis and predictions what is going on in EVGA. I do not want to know about any potential problems that EVGA has.
 
All that I want as loyal customer is simple answer to my question
 
A1: EVGA WILL FIX the BIOS (I do not care how long does it take)
A2: EVGA CAN NOT FIX THE BIOS (I do not care for reasons why not)
 
Depending on the A1 or A2 I will know what to do. No hard feelings about EVGA in any case. The point is that it would be FAIR treatment of EVGA customers, not generic sentences we are looking into it.  Those sentences were ok two months ago. I really do respect the quality, devotion and knowledge of EVGA reps and that's why I have problem with such answers at this moment.
 
In case you can't give us A1 or A2 after this much time - than it leaves too much space for all sorts of speculations and justified anger as well. 
 
So, please take your time before you shoot another generic PR answer to the community.
 
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 05:23:28 (permalink)
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EVGA_NickM
That's what we are working on figuring out and this question has been answered each time it has been asked.


Hello Nick,

Thank you for prompt answer.
I really do appreciate all hard work you and your colleagues are putting into this issue since DejanH made moded BIOS. I strongly disagree with harsh attitude pointed toward EVGA reps that provides us with info on this forum.

However, it is a bit strange to me that EVGA was not aware of the issue prior dejanh BIOS mod. It is even worse that after almost two months EVGA is not aware if it is possible to provide ROM update. That's what bothers me the most. Prior dejanh BIOS mod EVGA was clear that it is not possible to do any RAID ROM upgrade.

It insults my IQ if you think you can sell us these generic sentences as answers after this chain of events and this much time since this issue erupted. 
It leaves me with conclusion that EVGA does not have a clue what to do with its own product... 

It is no big deal to figure If EVGA decides to do complete BIOS rewrite than it would be 100% possible to get latest RAID ROM. But it costs the money and requires man power. I do not want to know EVGA business policy and I do not have intention of getting into prognosis and predictions what is going on in EVGA. I do not want to know about any potential problems that EVGA has.

All that I want as loyal customer is simple answer to my question

A1: EVGA WILL FIX the BIOS (I do not care how long does it take)
A2: EVGA CAN NOT FIX THE BIOS (I do not care for reasons why not)

Depending on the A1 or A2 I will know what to do. No hard feelings about EVGA in any case. The point is that it would be FAIR treatment of EVGA customers, not generic sentences we are looking into it.  Those sentences were ok two months ago. I really do respect the quality, devotion and knowledge of EVGA reps and that's why I have problem with such answers at this moment.

In case you can't give us A1 or A2 after this much time - than it leaves too much space for all sorts of speculations and justified anger as well. 

So, please take your time before you shoot another generic PR answer to the community.

kind regards
Mirko Cetkovic


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So, please take your time before you shoot another generic PR answer to the community.


ROFL
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 06:07:12 (permalink)
Not to rain on your parade, guys, but I've been asking for this since June '10... Pretty sure it'd been mentioned before that, too...
zalbardWhat's the RAID ROM version of this BIOS? Is it still 8.0.0.1038? The latest one is v8.9.x.x.xxxx...
If it's 8.0, then why has it not been updated for ages? The new one is much faster.
BIOS 64 still uses the old one...

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=389615&mpage=5#411301
It really is not looking good...
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 06:12:09 (permalink)
zalbard
Not to rain on your parade, guys, but I've been asking for this since June '10... Pretty sure it'd been mentioned before that, too...
zalbardWhat's the RAID ROM version of this BIOS? Is it still 8.0.0.1038? The latest one is v8.9.x.x.xxxx...
If it's 8.0, then why has it not been updated for ages? The new one is much faster.
BIOS 64 still uses the old one...

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=389615&mpage=5#411301
It really is not looking good...


Luckily I brought my umbrella with me... ;)

Not only to mention the new ROM is much faster, it also is more compatible with lesser known SSD's. Especially the last part is important to me. :S
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 06:49:11 (permalink)
MvdL79 <SNIP>
Oh well, EVGA probably doesn't care, cause they hardly visit the forums anyways. Their are to pre-occupied by their personal $hit, instead of caring about loyal customers. As long as they can post a few pictures on their Twitter-accounts of their new rig, they are happy. <SNIP>

 
Actually, they are all busy gearing up for this.
 
You know, important stuff.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 07:57:43 (permalink)
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Oh man... how long does it take to give us an answer to simple question:

Q: Is it possible to update RAID ROM ?



That's what we are working on figuring out and this question has been answered each time it has been asked.




Ok but what's the hold up? It's taking hecka long already just to find out if it is possible or not. Jacob said you guys are working with Award and Intel. Haven't you guys gotten an answer from them yet? You guys have been saying "working on it" for the pass month or more. We get it but we need more information than "we are working on it." I'm sure Award and Intel would tell you by now, "look it can be done but it's going to take this ________ amount of time." Or "this bios chip sucks a$$, we cannot update anything." Don't keep us waiting so freaking long for answer.

We want the updated bios with everything updated. If not, I hope you guys sell bios chips with enough space to fit all the updates that we asked and Jacob mention you guys are trying to fix.

Seems so simple to me I don't get what's the hold up. If it's so complicated then sorry but still.

Thanks!
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:08:02 (permalink)
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MvdL79

kitfit1
This whole fiasco sounds very familiar to me.
Those of you that know me, know that for years i used DFI mobo's.
Because EVGA messed us around in Europe with the release (or non realease) of the Classified, i went with the DFI UT x58.
It worked fine with CO's, but as soon as the DO's were released the board simply did not work properly with them. WE were constantly being told by DFI "we are working on it". To this day there has been no solution. And we all know what has happened to DFI since.
I now have an E760, that should i want to buy and install the latest of SSD's in Raid, i'm up the creek without a paddle.
My guess is that this will Never be fixed, because just like DFI, EVGA don't give a monkey's arse. Needless to say my next mobo will not be an EVGA, and in all likelyhood i will never buy one again.


Yup... The similarities between EVGA, Abit and DFI are frightning... :S

I have used Abit in the past (which went down the drain) and than I moved over to DFI. First a nforce 4 board (DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert) and then followed by a DFI Lanparty UT X58 T3eH8. While the nforce 4 board was pretty good, the T3eH8 sucked in every way. At first it was al right, but then I noticed increased temperatures on the chipsets and making my system completely unstable. Hitting almost 100 degrees Celsius and their stupid so-called "Freezer"-solution didn't do anything. After contacting support, which was pointless, I decided to remove the chipset heatsinks, cleaning them and replace them with better TIM. This resulted in lower temperatures, but still pretty high.

After a short while, again I noticed similiar problems concerning heat. I wanted to RMA the board, but DFI wasn't willing to. I took my losses and used the DFI for a short while. Not long after DFI, or at least the Lanparty part, went bankrupt.

With EVGA it's like history repeats itself. I think in the near future I am better off by picking a motherboard from the big 2 (Asus or Gigabyte), instead of trusting my feeling and go for the so-called "best"....

I totally appreciate where you are coming from. I can honestly tell you though that the BIOS is one of the top priority things the company is dealing with right now. Hurdles. Also, EVGA in the end, will ultimately not forget about you.

I second this.  I still have full confidence that they will have a fix for us soon (it's possible and it is not that difficult; maybe it requires a BIOS version update, but so what).  However, I do agree that keeping us more informed in the meantime would help.  Generic PR answers do not sadly.
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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:15:53 (permalink)
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Arctucas

dejanh

<SNIP>
No, it is not a chip size limitation, it is a BIOS limitation.  This version of Award BIOS is not compatible with the new ROM in its current form.


And no other Award BIOS version is compatible with eVGA motherboards?

No, that's not true.  The Award BIOS version used by Gigabyte is compatible.

 
And...?

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:25:37 (permalink)
It is not a simple yes/no answer right now. There are many challenges in implementing the latest RAID ROM in the specific Award BIOS that is used, #1 is the ROM size. It is not possible to use a different or newer version of the Award BIOS.
 
Once we are able to find a workaround, we will know if it is possible. With that being said, we have made some progress recently and I hope to give some news on this soon.


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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:26:46 (permalink)
My gut feeling was that the BIOS in its initial design was written based on very old components and that eVGA did not leave room for future upgrades with varying size of different components. For proof, they had to remove even the BIOS logo very shortly after the release of these boards to make room for elements in BIOS they did not plan for. I think the BIOS cannot be upgraded unless they completely rewrite it with a different structure and eVGA is not going to do that. If they were going to invest in it, they would have done it a long time ago. In the meantime they can only keep our hopes up for another year until Intel releases the new platform and they can release new hardware. This "we are working on it" for this many months makes no sense. Either you eVGA is not working very hard or they are not working on it at all.  In either case, Gigabyte is looking better and better to me. The BIOS could and should have been completely rewritten by now had they put a couple of guys on it.

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Re:EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 78 Released 2011/03/10 09:32:50 (permalink)
This may sould like a strange questions, but I gotta ask it:
 
Is it possible to replace the chip itself with one that has more space?


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