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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/12 07:06:01 (permalink)
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will the new version include a 64bit OSD?


When PX 15 came out (briefly), it had 64bit support.  I would think when it gets re-released, it will again.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/12 07:47:14 (permalink)
Where can I find the link for the previous version please?
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/12 07:58:20 (permalink)


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/12 08:01:41 (permalink)
thank you
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/12 08:42:27 (permalink)
You're welcome...


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 11:10:49 (permalink)
Downloading afterburner for now , I hope this will re-release soon !

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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 17:25:11 (permalink)
Aside the fact that EVGA still hasn't sincerely apologized to Unwinder and bought him a new car and a house for stealing his work with no shame, I wanted to report that the latest EVGA Precision X 5.0.1 BLOWS! It won't even let me play BF4 as it makes it run at 4-5fps. Then I close the program and BF4 runs great again. With version 4.2.1, BF4 runs just fine, but PunkBuster detects it as a potential cheating tool (How ironic when you consider blatant RivaTuner theft?). 
 
Luckily, MSI AfterBurner 4.0.0 release candidate is out soon. You can check out some of its features running with EVGA Precision X 5 SKIN - LOLOLOLOLOL  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sCItCEbEM . In all honesty, Precision X 5 skin should be free and be adopted by every RivaTuner tool out there because of EVGA can just steal anything it wants, then anyone should steal from EVGA. 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 17:30:10 (permalink)
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Aside the fact that EVGA still hasn't sincerely apologized to Unwinder and bought him a new car and a house for stealing his work with no shame, I wanted to report that the latest EVGA Precision X 5.0.1 BLOWS! It won't even let me play BF4 as it makes it run at 4-5fps. Then I close the program and BF4 runs great again. With version 4.2.1, BF4 runs just fine, but PunkBuster detects it as a potential cheating tool (How ironic when you consider blatant RivaTuner theft?). 
 
Luckily, MSI AfterBurner 4.0.0 release candidate is out soon. You can check out some of its features running with EVGA Precision X 5 SKIN - LOLOLOLOLOL  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sCItCEbEM . In all honesty, Precision X 5 skin should be free and be adopted by every RivaTuner tool out there because of EVGA can just steal anything it wants, then anyone should steal from EVGA. 


Misinformed douchebags are so annoying.
 
Perhaps "misinformed" is too nice a word. Ignorant? Yes, that's better. Ignorant douchebags.
 
Crawl back under your rock MonarchX, and don't come back until you've at least bothered to read both sides of the story and the history of Precision before you make libelous statements. Moron.
 
 


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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 20:32:10 (permalink)
god i hope this comes out soon, i just don't care for afterburner as much! don't suppose there's any word on what time frame we might expect? thanks!
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 22:02:16 (permalink)
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Aside the fact that EVGA still hasn't sincerely apologized to Unwinder and bought him a new car and a house for stealing his work with no shame, I wanted to report that the latest EVGA Precision X 5.0.1 BLOWS! It won't even let me play BF4 as it makes it run at 4-5fps. Then I close the program and BF4 runs great again. With version 4.2.1, BF4 runs just fine, but PunkBuster detects it as a potential cheating tool (How ironic when you consider blatant RivaTuner theft?). 
 
Luckily, MSI AfterBurner 4.0.0 release candidate is out soon. You can check out some of its features running with EVGA Precision X 5 SKIN - LOLOLOLOLOL  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sCItCEbEM . In all honesty, Precision X 5 skin should be free and be adopted by every RivaTuner tool out there because of EVGA can just steal anything it wants, then anyone should steal from EVGA. 




 
Sorry to disappoint but after this drama, I'm pretty sure EVGA will change the skinning engine because using old Precision's skinning engine was the source of the main fuss. So, pretty sure AB and Precisions skins will be incompatible, on purpose.
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/13 22:24:50 (permalink)
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Aside the fact that EVGA still hasn't sincerely apologized to Unwinder and bought him a new car and a house for stealing his work with no shame, I wanted to report that the latest EVGA Precision X 5.0.1 BLOWS! It won't even let me play BF4 as it makes it run at 4-5fps. Then I close the program and BF4 runs great again. With version 4.2.1, BF4 runs just fine, but PunkBuster detects it as a potential cheating tool (How ironic when you consider blatant RivaTuner theft?). 

 
 
5.0.1 runs BF4 x64 just fine, with the OSD and all.  Clocks up nicely on my 780ti SLI setup.  Also.. 4.2.1 doesn't trip PB.
 
 
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post edited by XrayMan - 2014/08/28 22:24:04
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/14 23:51:51 (permalink)
@Nereus & micas
what's your reason for beeing so rude to other user?
there is a topc and everyone is free to post their opinions on that.
BUT no one is free to insult other user just like you do!
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/15 20:04:41 (permalink)
what has happened to the download links? I am getting nothing but the privacy statement. If we cant download it please remove the download links. It is extremely frustrating. 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/15 20:08:41 (permalink)
lol whoops! ignore previous post all! I just read in the Privacy statement at the end that it is temporarily disabled till they come up with a solution everyone is happy with XD 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 03:16:04 (permalink)
how to install precision x?
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 07:58:01 (permalink)
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how to install precision x?


Download and install it. But you won't find an official download link anywhere because the most recent version was removed (read the first post of this thread!).
Or install it from the CD which came with your EVGA graphics card.
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 08:09:42 (permalink)
Uhhhh
I understand the fuzz and all but when are we able to download the new software.
Next week of next year ?
 
A little timeframe would be nice
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 09:07:42 (permalink)
When is this software coming back out?

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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 10:13:44 (permalink)
EVGA will announce its near release when it is ready. Until you see an announcement from EVGA, it is pointless to ask over and over again because you will not get an answer. It will be ready when it is ready.
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 12:22:03 (permalink)
In case you folks are interested...in the meantime... you can use Precision versions 3 and 4 skins with the 4.0 Beta of Afterburner with full functionality.
 

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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/17 13:00:57 (permalink)
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In case you folks are interested...in the meantime... you can use Precision versions 3 and 4 skins with the 4.0 Beta of Afterburner with full functionality.
 



Thanks for the tip...  Didn't know that.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/18 21:33:31 (permalink)
ill just leave this here 
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-steals-the-rivatuner-rtss-design-concept-into-precisionx-15.html
 
"Update 6: this intersting post from Unwinder caught our attention:
Hope those are my last comments on this story. First, there are different rumors walking on the net related to the product licensing terms. Some people are trying to justify copying from the previous versions, so I’d like to clarify that to prevent any misunderstanding:
The agreement defines the following intellectual property ownership terms: software product which I develop remains my copyrighted property, but during the contract the company receives exclusive distribution rights on it. Besides exclusive software distribution rights the company exclusively owns all the rest intellectual property, which is not directly related to software and which I could create during the contract: i.e. product name, product logos, artwork. That’s all. There are absolutely no ways to fit any form of previous software copy-pasting into the licensing model.

Second, I just decided to peek inside "in-house" application EXE. I'd better avoid doing so: even my original EXE string table is inside new executable as is. Including all the messages of original application, including all the messages of my proprietary USF skin compiler / decompiler built into original RivaTuner skinning engine, even including the references to original RivaTuner core libraries (RTTSH.dll). Even including the messages related to RivaTuner’s G15 LCD output module, which the company probably also tried to clone but couldn’t get working yet. Really, EVGA? 

Dear company PRs, take a fair advice and simply stop giving any public comments with fake excuses. I’m not going to start a legal action against the company, I’m not asking for ANY compensation. I just want to let my users know the truth, protect my software, my ideas and technologies and then forget our past partnership. Just keep your lips sealed and let this story die istelf. Do not beat the dead horse.

 
Alexey Nicolaychuk aka Unwinder, RivaTuner creator"

 
 
 
I'm kinda shocked at this.
personally, i've been using rivaturner then afterburner (with evga cards) ever since the 7900 gt. so personally, i don't a big deal with the absents of the "new" precision x. But look at this from the devs eyes, i feel bad. 
 
im not the one who chooses what product from what brand to buy because of stuff like this, but after this, i kinda dont know where i stand.  parts of me wants me to say "never buying from evga again" but like i said, i dont know how i feel about this. I really appreciate unwinder and what hes done to make rivatuner. i've been using his software ever since rivatuner was in beta.  


if i were you guys. i would stop waiting for this "new" program to come out and just use the really deal. afterburner. (or even gpu tweak (asus)) if you compare afterburner or gpu tweak to the last build unwinder did for evga precision x. they did the same thing. only difference was afterburner supported 64 bit OSD and video recording, while gpu tweak supported game streaming (i think to twitch or ustream cant remember) within the app.  just choose what's more important to you and boom done. this is not some sort of proprietary software that you MUST use to get the most out of your evga product. only difference is the evga logo and skin on for the GUI. and with what HeavyHemi just posted. if you have to have the program have the same layout. boom. there you have it. 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/19 05:43:52 (permalink)
Yawn.  Already posted and discussed in a different thread.
http://forums.evga.com/Did-EVGA-just-Steal-the-Rivatuner-RTSS-design-concept-into-PrecisionX-15-m2191513.aspx
 
All the "proprietary" USF skin stuff has already been discussed.  The "proprietary" language translation file which EVGA originally wrote and reused is also already discussed.
 
only difference is the evga logo and skin on for the GUI.

 
That's not the only difference.  The other difference is that EVGA's Precision came out before the other two and that Unwinder stopped supporting Precision.  Because Unwinder stopped supporting Precision and since Precision was the original, EVGA wanted to keep Precision going and wanted to be able to have control of Precision so that they could add the features the community requested.  The only other alternative was to let Unwinder control them and let Unwinder cause their software to no longer be updated or relevant.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2014/08/19 05:57:17
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/19 16:20:46 (permalink)
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ill just leave this here 
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-steals-the-rivatuner-rtss-design-concept-into-precisionx-15.html
 
"Update 6: this intersting post from Unwinder caught our attention:
Hope those are my last comments on this story. First, there are different rumors walking on the net related to the product licensing terms. Some people are trying to justify copying from the previous versions, so I’d like to clarify that to prevent any misunderstanding:
The agreement defines the following intellectual property ownership terms: software product which I develop remains my copyrighted property, but during the contract the company receives exclusive distribution rights on it. Besides exclusive software distribution rights the company exclusively owns all the rest intellectual property, which is not directly related to software and which I could create during the contract: i.e. product name, product logos, artwork. That’s all. There are absolutely no ways to fit any form of previous software copy-pasting into the licensing model.

Second, I just decided to peek inside "in-house" application EXE. I'd better avoid doing so: even my original EXE string table is inside new executable as is. Including all the messages of original application, including all the messages of my proprietary USF skin compiler / decompiler built into original RivaTuner skinning engine, even including the references to original RivaTuner core libraries (RTTSH.dll). Even including the messages related to RivaTuner’s G15 LCD output module, which the company probably also tried to clone but couldn’t get working yet. Really, EVGA? 

Dear company PRs, take a fair advice and simply stop giving any public comments with fake excuses. I’m not going to start a legal action against the company, I’m not asking for ANY compensation. I just want to let my users know the truth, protect my software, my ideas and technologies and then forget our past partnership. Just keep your lips sealed and let this story die istelf. Do not beat the dead horse.


Alexey Nicolaychuk aka Unwinder, RivaTuner creator"

 
 
 
I'm kinda shocked at this.
personally, i've been using rivaturner then afterburner (with evga cards) ever since the 7900 gt. so personally, i don't a big deal with the absents of the "new" precision x. But look at this from the devs eyes, i feel bad. 
 
im not the one who chooses what product from what brand to buy because of stuff like this, but after this, i kinda dont know where i stand.  parts of me wants me to say "never buying from evga again" but like i said, i dont know how i feel about this. I really appreciate unwinder and what hes done to make rivatuner. i've been using his software ever since rivatuner was in beta.  


if i were you guys. i would stop waiting for this "new" program to come out and just use the really deal. afterburner. (or even gpu tweak (asus)) if you compare afterburner or gpu tweak to the last build unwinder did for evga precision x. they did the same thing. only difference was afterburner supported 64 bit OSD and video recording, while gpu tweak supported game streaming (i think to twitch or ustream cant remember) within the app.  just choose what's more important to you and boom done. this is not some sort of proprietary software that you MUST use to get the most out of your evga product. only difference is the evga logo and skin on for the GUI. and with what HeavyHemi just posted. if you have to have the program have the same layout. boom. there you have it. 




 
That "Update" is really really old by any standard, but you may have just seen it.
Here is the summary: EVGA wanted to support the USF skin format which was made public by its developer, Unwinder (http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3316361&postcount=8). In order to do that, they had to use the same skinning framework (duh!) and so they did. Seems like Unwinder is playing stupid in that message, acting like he doesn't know they had to use the same references to support the same skinning format, which he made public. Idk, but sounds like a move to further appear like a victim and make EVGA look evil. Issue there is otherwise quite clear: EVGA wanting to support the same old, public skinning format. 
 
Note, it's all about the skinning and references (as in citing, using the word in a sentence, etc) to a dll file, nothing about actually reverse engineering that dll file, or any other RTSS component. They further made the hardware monitoring window look very much like the previous Precision, which was the biggest fault on EVGA's part. They did not need to do that, and that's the most important thing that they need to fix. Again, it's all about the looks, the visuals, nothing about the actual working components or code that was "copied" or "reused." If anything working component or code was copied, Precision X 15 would have every single bit of functionality as the old Precision, AND it would not have some bugs on supported functionality as reported by some, AND it would not have the additional features on top of the old Precision (64 bit OSD, etc).
 
Internet is filled with people who either don't know what they're talking about, or those who knowingly manipulate the ignorant crowds into their agenda, which was, in this case "We hate EVGA!"
 
  1. Did EVGA do something wrong?
    Yes, they made parts (hardware monitoring) of their software look too much like another. On top of that, it seems like there were some programmer clumsiness/laziness involved, which further exacerbated the situation. To me, trying to support a publicly-made-available skinning format was NOT wrong in any sense of the word.
  2. Did EVGA actually copy or reuse any code from old Precision?
    With any reason, no, it doesn't seem like it, as otherwise, their new software would work perfectly, which was not the case. Further, Unwinder himself said repeatedly and EVGA confirmed repeatedly that EVGA never had access to any source code of RTSS or Precision.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/21 11:56:47 (permalink)
Just going to move onto MSI Afterburner 4 while we figure this one out.

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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/23 09:28:42 (permalink)
Ownership situation aside, the absence of an official link to download a fully-working, updated version of Precision is making EVGA - an otherwise remarkable enterprise - look really bad.

We, users, can sympathize - or not - with EVGA, but this issue has gone too far, and, as client, I have a right to expect proper support from the brand I am buying from.

We should not need to care about internal issues (even though some of us actually do);  we are just clients who have spent a lot of money on EVGA cards for a reason, and this utterly disappointing.

Please, stand up for your name as a respectable institution, cut this "Facebookesque" b*tching and release the piece of software we have also payed for.

Thank you!
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/23 10:14:08 (permalink)
^ What he said! I don't need drama, I just need working 64 bit supported SW to support the overclocking of my two EVGA Classified 780's. I was using Afterburner, but deleted it when the new Precision came out, only to then find I couldn't actually download it. Of course I said to not keep all of my Afterburner settings because I wasn't expecting to run into this mess.
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/23 17:21:10 (permalink)
yes, the evga page just now shows what appears to be 3 distinct download links, none of which result in the start of a download, each of which dramatically pops-up the official disclaimer that is so past-history as to be rather suspicious instead of reassuring, and it is this pop-up that "appears" to block the start of the download.
 
looks like this is already old news for those already here, I only now became aware a new download was announced and came here to download this afternoon, and instead make a post before I log out
 
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/25 10:00:12 (permalink)
Hi, Jacob for the 1st time ever using EVGA Precision made my bf4 crash & my Pc blue screen. Read the log files it said hook found on precision app. I have stop all my app from running to see if it's a combination from it and no on;y precision . Pre X alone it still made my bf4 like I said earlier crash/blue screen pc at same time. than try run other Origin games & did same. U know i been here for years 1 st time ever this has happen to me while running precision. sad i have long time ago uninstall. Game run perfect now. Had to say goodbey  to a long time app i love to have. using still EVGA GTX 570 HD intel i5 3570K @ 3.40Ghz "no overclock" Mobo: Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3. i have never O/C this pc. Yes I have reinstall OS just in case.
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Re: EVGA PrecisionX 15 Update 2014/08/27 07:27:17 (permalink)
Starting to feel like its gonna be a long while before EVGA releases a new version unfortunately. Kinda surprised though Jacob (or anyone) hasnt come back in to respond to the question thats been asked 30 times.


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