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According to recent chatter around the tech-sphere, Nvidia’s biggest partner, EVGA may be jumping on the AMD Vega train this year. Industry speculation about the possibility of EVGA partnering with AMD to make and sell Radeon Graphics cards has been going on for many years. The subject has been brought up more frequently as of last year however. This particular rumor from bitsandchips.it, who have cited private sources, claims that the potential is very much real this year. Nvidia’s board partners are said to have raised grievances with the company as a result of its recent channel strategies which haven’t been very kind to them. Nvidia’s recent decisions to exclusively sell the highly profitable Titan X Pascal as well as price reference designed Founder’s Edition cards considerably higher than the base retail MSRP that its board-partners have to contend with have reportedly not sat well with EVGA in particular. ... http://wccftech.com/amd-evga-vega/
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
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Interesting, the last company to do this that was exclusively nvidia and one of their star companies had the nvidia rug pulled out from under them. XFX pushed radeon hard when nvidia was having problems with Fermi and nvidia cut them off for it.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 12:31:07
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Last 2 years NVIDIA didn't behave like EVGA is exclusive partner, they didn't give them special chips, they sell TITAN alone and from one side I support this. I'm not sure what will happen, and one part of me say this will not happen... Because for AMD this only could be win, I know and I hear from a lot of people who used EVGA NVIDIA in past and want to try Radeon because prices and everything what NVIDIA do last years with voltage limitation. EVGA Radeon will be trigger for them to buy Vega or some other Radeon. Same as I hear from people who hate NVIDIA who will buy EVGA Radeon immediately if they launch. But for EVGA as company could be "sword with two blades". NVIDIA could change strategy over night, but only if someone force them to do that. If we look on TITAN from one side I understand... Much less people will complain when better and almost double cheaper model show up. Because everything about TITAN Pascal and specification and performance and price and way how they sell is for rich people who don't care if tumorrow show up better for half price. I don't know maybe is time to NVIDIA pay for their arogancy and sabotage of overclocking and bad chips with no voltage increase. Everything what NVIDIA done last 2 years, maybe even 3 but let's say last 2 years hands of manufacturers are tight completely and they could work only how much chip allow with stock voltage. Customers used to increase from 1100-1300V with software under water without temp limitations. And after Kepler that was not possible with NVIDIA. Last 2 generations customers could increase so small amount of voltage with software that can't influence on stability of chip on higher frequency. Maybe up to 50MHz... When once card crash voltage increase didn't helped to people. Because drivers, BIOS or architecture NVIDIA know better why.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 13:50:32
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I will have a 590x or two if EVGA makes them I will have EVGA cards. Although I doubt this will ever seriously happen it could just be a ploy to gain some needed attention. One thing for sure Nvidia doesn't need EVGA to succeed too many fanboys for that but MSI Gigabyte & Asus, to name a few, sell both AMD & Nvidia GPUs and it shouldn't be any sweat off their back if EVGA decides to diversify. Hell maybe Ryzen is in EVGA's future as well. The worst that should happen is they loose their exclusivity connotation which as noted above doesn't amount to much these days. I think this would be very good for EVGA Ryzen (300 series MoBo) & Vega
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 14:28:34
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I only know that NVIDIA make huge favor to ASUS with GTX980Ti series and Matrix Gold.
Problem was because ROG graphic cards were not so popular and than everything pass with less attention than I expect...
People almost didn't notice, and ASUS didn't organize some nice presentation and marketing of such incredible model...
Only one advertising as Fastest Maxwell.
With EVGA that's would be madness and fighting for graphic cards and easy selling for 1000$....
They got so good chips that I never thought that something like that is possible to work like that.
And all of them worked stable, 260MHz overclocked model is highest overclocked card ever and that depend only from silicon quality.
Manufacturers can't do nothing if chips are not good.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 14:41:32
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Sad if it happens but we only have Nvidia to blame!
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:00:47
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Sad if it happens but we only have Nvidia to blame!
How would EVGA offering more than one card be sad? I would love to get a EVGA/AMD card. Lots of people are looking at MSI for mobos and cards that would otherwise be buying EVGA.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:07:50
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Sad if it happens but we only have Nvidia to blame!
How would EVGA offering more than one card be sad?
I would love to get a EVGA/AMD card. Lots of people are looking at MSI for mobos and cards that would otherwise be buying EVGA.
It would be like Intel selling AMD CPUs. EVGA has enough issues with GPU Bios on AMD Motherboards they have special support for them. But then maybe they will drop Intel Motherboards and make AMD Motherboards and Graphics Cards. I would rather have a Great Product then a Split Between OK Product is all. Also I am not looing at this from a Gamers Point of View. The even sadder news is that EVGA on the GTX 10xx Never Had them in Stock on their website and we had to live with the overpriced one from 3 party sellers. I Hope then if they do go AMD we will be able to go the website on any give day and be able to order what we would like to have and not what we have to live with.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:10:35
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Who knows what will happen if EVGA launch Vega for my next build, maybe I change decision for Pascal.
NVIDIA really play A LOT with nerves of people, and I mean that. But EVGA should to think twice. You know ASUS had most exclusive cards for NVIDIA last years, that's not accidentaly... They didn't had R9-390X ROG or Gold, Fury X ROG or Gold...last was R9-290X Matrix and they had same cooler as GTX780Ti Matrix... Because demand for them. And we don't know what AMD have at the moment.
One thing is sure, EVGA done nothing, NVIDIA play hard and treat them less than they deserve for loyalty when situation on market was completey different.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:12:21
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This would be awesome!! I'm down for waiting on some Evega 
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:14:13
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Sad if it happens but we only have Nvidia to blame!
How would EVGA offering more than one card be sad?
I would love to get a EVGA/AMD card. Lots of people are looking at MSI for mobos and cards that would otherwise be buying EVGA.
I'm one of them
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:21:51
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That would be just about the only way for me to purchase an AMD card since I prefer my EVGA cards over anything else.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
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Vega with HBM2 could be between GTX1080 and TITAN. Did you saw video clip Ryzen + Vega... Some people and me immediately recognize that inside is some Radeon not GeForce. I think that good percent of old NVIDIA fans would be syrprised with picture immediately after they install driver even on desktop. Do you know what is VERY important... There are many, many monitors with Free Sync and they are cheaper. LG have great Curved models 34 and 38"... They are still expensive but no better high end monitors. One" 3440x1440 34UC98-W, other is full 4K 3840x1600 38UC99-W, same as affordable 27" full 4K 3840x2160 + Free Sync for 500$. Now is very hard to someone buy even 2560x1440p... even if want to use lower resolution in games. Because future, and if no more than 500$ no other solution than Free Sync and 4K. That monitor 3840x2160 need serious hardware but it's invest in future. Most people will look for bigger 3440x1440p but they still cost a lot.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:31:45
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Radeon not GeForce! How would anyone know that?
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:35:36
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Radeon not GeForce! How would anyone know that?
Color tones, colors on GeForce are somehow brighter, very hard to explain, here is little washed somehow but picture is cleaner... Looks like more details on same resolution.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:36:14
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To quote Jacob:
Yup. Fake news is fake.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:37:22
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Radeon not GeForce! How would anyone know that?
He is claiming that you can tell when a computer has a AMD card instead of an NVIDIA card instantly just by looking at a computer screen. He is claiming that the image quality -- even just when viewing the 2D desktop -- is noticeably better with AMD cards. Well, I can't pretend to be able to notice the difference.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:44:13
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Many people can't see difference, from other side there are many people who are disappointed after they changed AMD to NVIDIA with picture quality.
All of them mostly report same, like more blur and less sharpness, with default driver settings. You will see, if EVGA launch Vega and someone who always both NVIDIA probably will notice same. It's full net of us who can notice difference. Only in last generations difference almost gone completely but still is sometimes recognizable. It"s not conspiracy theory, real thing... People say that NVIDIA sacrifice details to improve smothness and present only 90% of details of Radeon.
AMD would never talk how they insist on picture quality before everything else...
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 16:59:12
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With the way Nvidia undercutting it's partners. It wouldn't surprise me if one day we do see evga selling AMD products. EVGATech_LeeM
To quote Jacob:
Yup. Fake news is fake.
I don't know, Jacob was playing DOOM yesterday, AMD was showing off Doom running 4k.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/06 21:53:34
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I knew right away it was fake. ;)
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
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Sad EVGA and I grow further and further apart. Source
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/07 12:00:01
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Would be a good step for EVGA. but then again EVGA is there own worst enemy.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/07 12:31:54
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every year this same rumor sticks its head out.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/08 03:46:53
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Even if the news is fake I would like EVGA to know that as a consumer, that has bought EVGA products, I would love it if they decided to sell Radeon cards!
I see no reason for them to remain an Nvidia exclusive company, especially with recent Nvidia tactics that have been mentioned in this thread. Maybe they are getting something out it that I just can't see.
Asus, Gigabyte and MSI sell both nvidia and amd cards but I guess they are way larger companies for Nvidia to mess around with.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/08 09:24:21
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Even if the news is fake I would like EVGA to know that as a consumer, that has bought EVGA products, I would love it if they decided to sell Radeon cards!
I see no reason for them to remain an Nvidia exclusive company, especially with recent Nvidia tactics that have been mentioned in this thread. Maybe they are getting something out it that I just can't see.
Asus, Gigabyte and MSI sell both nvidia and amd cards but I guess they are way larger companies for Nvidia to mess around with.
EVGA may not have had it yet, but if Nvidia keeps down the path they are one, mark my words evga will start exploring other options. A company like Nvidia can only bend their customers over the table with pricing so many times, then bend their AIB partners over the table at the same time and keep good relations in the industry. The founders edition, Nvidia store, and titan handling was despicable. I hope AIB partners made that clear to Nvidia. I also hope amd is reading this and is reaching out to EVGA with an olive branch and some excellent offers to finally step in the Radeon ring. It wasn't all that long ago the EVGA made AMD motherboards, maybe its time the revived that department rather than continuing to jump into random items that really isn't their forte. I mean we have them jumping into mice, coolers, and more recently cases. The cases of which dont seem to sell at regular price. I was at microcenter last week they had a stack of the big evga case and the gentleman around them said they have sold one severely discounted in quite a while. Newegg was selling them for a significant discount plus a rebate the other day. Anyone remember this EVGA Gem? http://www.evga.com/interview/specifications.aspor this one http://www.evga.com/newsletter/pcoip/edition003/ Anyone wanna bet a Ryzen motherboard would outpace the case/mice/cooler sales?
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/08 09:32:28
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Fake or not I would love to see EVGA have team red on board. Nvidia is really starting to strike a nerve on this consumer. Waiting waiting.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/08 09:50:36
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Even if the news is fake I would like EVGA to know that as a consumer, that has bought EVGA products, I would love it if they decided to sell Radeon cards!
I see no reason for them to remain an Nvidia exclusive company, especially with recent Nvidia tactics that have been mentioned in this thread. Maybe they are getting something out it that I just can't see.
Asus, Gigabyte and MSI sell both nvidia and amd cards but I guess they are way larger companies for Nvidia to mess around with.
Do you remember what happened to XFX? They started selling AMD cards and then were promptly cut off by Nvidia. Now they only sell AMD. I'm not positive, but this is probably what would happen to EVGA as well. The other companies you mentioned are large and probably have more leverage with Nvidia. This rumor comes up every time AMD is going to release a new card that people are interested in. I'm pretty sure it's just wishful thinking on the part of some. I mean if you were an AMD fan I could see why you'd want to buy cards from EVGA. But I don't think EVGA would want to alienate Nvidia. Nvidia has (in my opinion) better GPUs and has better GPUs more consistently than AMD. If I was EVGA I would not jump ship to AMD because of a single generation of cards that may or may not even be better than Nvidia's. It would hurt them in the long run. Nvidia is likely to stay on top of the GPU game for the foreseeable future. The bottom line is Nvidia would most likely cut EVGA off if they started selling AMD cards. Personally I like that fact that EVGA seems to get preferential treatment amongst Nvidia's AIB partners, and I'd like to see that continue as my preference has always been Nvidia/EVGA and will continue to be. If EVGA didn't have Nvidia cards I (and many others) would have to look elsewhere.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/08 18:43:32
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Even if the news is fake I would like EVGA to know that as a consumer, that has bought EVGA products, I would love it if they decided to sell Radeon cards!
I see no reason for them to remain an Nvidia exclusive company, especially with recent Nvidia tactics that have been mentioned in this thread. Maybe they are getting something out it that I just can't see.
Asus, Gigabyte and MSI sell both nvidia and amd cards but I guess they are way larger companies for Nvidia to mess around with.
Do you remember what happened to XFX? They started selling AMD cards and then were promptly cut off by Nvidia. Now they only sell AMD. I'm not positive, but this is probably what would happen to EVGA as well. The other companies you mentioned are large and probably have more leverage with Nvidia.
This rumor comes up every time AMD is going to release a new card that people are interested in. I'm pretty sure it's just wishful thinking on the part of some. I mean if you were an AMD fan I could see why you'd want to buy cards from EVGA. But I don't think EVGA would want to alienate Nvidia. Nvidia has (in my opinion) better GPUs and has better GPUs more consistently than AMD. If I was EVGA I would not jump ship to AMD because of a single generation of cards that may or may not even be better than Nvidia's. It would hurt them in the long run. Nvidia is likely to stay on top of the GPU game for the foreseeable future. The bottom line is Nvidia would most likely cut EVGA off if they started selling AMD cards. Personally I like that fact that EVGA seems to get preferential treatment amongst Nvidia's AIB partners, and I'd like to see that continue as my preference has always been Nvidia/EVGA and will continue to be. If EVGA didn't have Nvidia cards I (and many others) would have to look elsewhere.
I think Nvidia cutting off EVGA is a BS explanation because it happened to XFX. That's like saying Intel would cut off EVGA if they started making AMD motherboards Or, somehow MSI, ASUS and GIGABYTE pays a penalty of some sort to retail both brands and EVGA isn't strong enough to do the same. Its also like saying Nvidia runs EVGA. Nvidia gives them orders and they march. NOT... For that matter it would make EVGA complicit with the Nvidia shenanigans... again NOT... I don't buy it. EVGA could diversify if they were strong enough, willing and it made financial sense. To me it makes more sense for EVGA to market both GPU & CPU brands than it does to sell dual monitors, fiber clients or Killer network cards so call me stupid.
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Re: EVGA Partnering With AMD On Vega & Radeon RX 500 Series Graphics Cards?
2017/01/09 14:51:37
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Ouch, shame that it is untrue. I would be happy to see EVGA selling both red and green GPUs. Particularly since it's been about two months before EVGA finally restocked a single non-hybrid 1080 on its own web store...  Kind of odd to be in the GPU business but not actually sell flagship GPUs...
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