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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 09:40:58 (permalink)
What about the option to trade in GPU for newer model?

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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 09:41:13 (permalink)
I'd love to see a trade-up program...trade in your 1080 to get credit towards your 1180...
 
pipedreaming i bet but. 

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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 09:45:59 (permalink)
Let's stay a little basic:
+Exclusive Giveaways!
+Easy way to directly communicate with EVGA
+"Idea contests" for new "features" on products and if your Idea gets picked you'll get one of the products for free
+Higher availability for products that are new, hot and wanted! (queue system?)
+Premium Support 
 
Some other stuff mediocore ideas:
+Able to visit EVGA HQ
+Exclusive Meetups/Partys at Event 
+Interaction in the Podcast?
 
 
Ok outta ideas now, what do you think?
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 09:51:14 (permalink)
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I'd love to see a trade-up program...trade in your 1080 to get credit towards your 1180...
 
pipedreaming i bet but. 


I think it could be great for them and us. We all love newer GPUs so we can get latest and greatest and they could also start selling trade in ones refurbished on site for them to get more business for customers who don't or can't spend for latest and greatest GPUs. Everybody wins then. :) but I must agree with you probably a pipe dream..

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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 15:45:16 (permalink)
If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 17:59:11 (permalink)
Well EVGA shippingbrates to Canada are CRAZY!  I would of purchased 3 or 4 items from evga if it was free shipping.
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/14 23:09:06 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/15 04:28:10 (permalink)
I really like the "life time warranty", that is definitely a nice perk.
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/15 23:29:46 (permalink)
Thread clean up.  Please stay on topic with suggestions for an EVGA Membership Program.
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 03:35:08 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.




 
Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 04:24:31 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.




 
Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.
 
 
 
 


To get some of the premium perks that companies like to offer, it will indeed bring a price on consumers. If there is a free membership, I would expect and prepare for the "benefits" to be more miniscule, probably more BS, than paid subscriptions. We should understand and expect that EVGA won't give those nifty perks, we're all wanting to have, if they make it for free, they would lose money. I could be wrong though, and they're wanting to win more hearts for EVGA.

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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 05:18:35 (permalink)
I would like to see:
Priority on step ups
Free shipping
Special forum font or something for user names or maybe a special title
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 06:19:35 (permalink)
 
lehpron
How are the terms defined, I'm not talking about a user agreement, I mean:
  1. What conditions define a member?
  2. How is it different from a customer?
  3. Do frequent or legacy members get any priorities over new members?
I ask about the latter as they are the first ones to cry foul when someone random that just signed on wins the Scavenger Hunt prizes every year.  So in the defense of frequent or long-time forum visitors, random users have to be limited in what they get, unless this program is purely a money grab to help identify your baller customers' needs better since they'll be the ones to sign-on no question or hesitation...

In other words, since no one is asking, what is EVGA looking to gain out of this?


+1.... Some great points there lehpron. I'm not a big fan of membership clubs like this because usually they never tend to be worth the money in the end. Its usually more of a scam for the company to make free money while offering you all the peanuts in one package. Now, I wouldn't expect EVGA to do this because on the customer service end they are a very good company and very fair to us, but they are a business. Most of the stuff you guys are asking for we already get or have in some way and its pretty good the way it is. I was a big fan of the lifetime limited warranty because I actually keep and use my cards but since most people sell theres the same year they get them anymore I understand them going to the KR program and a optional buy in for a extended warranty, although you would think that they would be able to sell the card a little cheaper since now people are paying for a warranty for anything over three years and paying for EAR service. So if we have to pay a extra 60 bucks for the 10 year warranty on a 1080, which we used to get for just registering your card, at least split the difference and sell the card for 30 bucks cheaper!? Or give us 60 evga bucks upon registration maybe. Anyway, heres what I think on the rest so far, but what the heck do I know lol..........
 
 
1. I saw a "directline" or essentially a "redline" mentioned to reach EVGA direct which we already have, the 800 number, and the forums which work great too, sometimes better. They will never give the public Darwins or Jacobs cell numbers, so forget that guys, and that's about the only way you could get someone quicker, lol.  Although, it would be funny if..............  :P
 
2. Availability they cant really do too much about because that's in Nvidias hands and the fabs and every partner only gets so many cards depending on how badly NVidia has worked them over in there contracts. They already have the notifications for a product if you sign up for them but they are a little slow so that part they could work on. They already split the stock for preorders and steps ups, which get priority as it is, so im not sure really what more you could do with that.
 
3. Premium support I cant see getting cause its not going to get much better than it is already, and to degrade someone else's customer support experience just because now youa section of guys paying money isn't too fair. Really, your stepping on something EVGA is known for across the board so I don't think they would want to mess with that and jeopardize what they've earned so far. 
 
4. They already have the chat setup with the podcasts/twitch etc... I thought, right?!?
 
5. Going to evga HQ, I doubt they will ever do that. You could try though, just watch the guard towers. :P
 
6. LAN partys they could setup though. That's doable and pretty easy.
 
7. Longer step up program probably wont happen. The point of the step up was to cover you for 90 days in case another card dropped so close to your purchase. Originally that potential was there and it happened much more back then than it does today. GPU drops are pretty good at staying on a set schedule anymore. Plus for the sake of refurbishing/bstock sales/RMA's its much better to have a card come back with 90 days or less used on it, which is good for everyone involved.
 
8. Longtime or frequent forum contributors I think should def be considered when making a pay for membership program because without them there is no forum, help, advice etc... and EVGA's forum is quite well known which helps new builders , especially, get the correct info they need and be part of a good community. Although, I am one of those so I am def biased a little bit, admittedly.  :)  Evgas techs are on quite a bit but without the frequent members, a lot of questions wouldn't get answered cause they surely cant get to everyone, but you guys are welcome to try!!! I think well let ErinW handle all those, lol.
 
9. Shipping .....this is a big one that can def get improved in general. More options would be nice because depending where you are and what your shipping you may get a better deal with a different carrier.  Not that you haven't done some things EVGA, I understand, but sometimes the shipping prices are absurd for a cheap item you may need in a pinch so a alternative carrier may be able to fix that. Im sure they've looked into this but we all need to understand that its about covering there butts as much as its about our butts. No one wants to take the hit on losing things worth more than just a few dollars.
 
10. EVGA NEEDS to incorporate our over seas brothers and sisters in more of the promotions and perks that the US and Canada customers enjoy. They need to put us all on equal footing and spread the joy to all! :) Seriously. They really are a very good customer service company, but that service hasn't seemed to transfer well to other countrys, since day one, which is a crying shame for the users being beat over the head by a ASUS warranty nightmare, although maybe over seas and closer to ASUS HQ its not as bad like with the US and EVGA?! They do get there own exclusive promos and perks but they don't seem to see as many of them as we do. 
 
Well, that's all I got.... this wall of text ends now. Thank god, huh?  \m/
 




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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 08:54:05 (permalink)
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lehpron
How are the terms defined, I'm not talking about a user agreement, I mean:
  1. What conditions define a member?
  2. How is it different from a customer?
  3. Do frequent or legacy members get any priorities over new members?
I ask about the latter as they are the first ones to cry foul when someone random that just signed on wins the Scavenger Hunt prizes every year.  So in the defense of frequent or long-time forum visitors, random users have to be limited in what they get, unless this program is purely a money grab to help identify your baller customers' needs better since they'll be the ones to sign-on no question or hesitation...

In other words, since no one is asking, what is EVGA looking to gain out of this?


+1.... Some great points there lehpron. I'm not a big fan of membership clubs like this because usually they never tend to be worth the money in the end. Its usually more of a scam for the company to make free money while offering you all the peanuts in one package. Now, I wouldn't expect EVGA to do this because on the customer service end they are a very good company and very fair to us, but they are a business. Most of the stuff you guys are asking for we already get or have in some way and its pretty good the way it is. I was a big fan of the lifetime limited warranty because I actually keep and use my cards but since most people sell theres the same year they get them anymore I understand them going to the KR program and a optional buy in for a extended warranty, although you would think that they would be able to sell the card a little cheaper since now people are paying for a warranty for anything over three years and paying for EAR service. So if we have to pay a extra 60 bucks for the 10 year warranty on a 1080, which we used to get for just registering your card, at least split the difference and sell the card for 30 bucks cheaper!? Or give us 60 evga bucks upon registration maybe. Anyway, heres what I think on the rest so far, but what the heck do I know lol..........
 
 
1. I saw a "directline" or essentially a "redline" mentioned to reach EVGA direct which we already have, the 800 number, and the forums which work great too, sometimes better. They will never give the public Darwins or Jacobs cell numbers, so forget that guys, and that's about the only way you could get someone quicker, lol.  Although, it would be funny if..............  :P
 
2. Availability they cant really do too much about because that's in Nvidias hands and the fabs and every partner only gets so many cards depending on how badly NVidia has worked them over in there contracts. They already have the notifications for a product if you sign up for them but they are a little slow so that part they could work on. They already split the stock for preorders and steps ups, which get priority as it is, so im not sure really what more you could do with that.
 
3. Premium support I cant see getting cause its not going to get much better than it is already, and to degrade someone else's customer support experience just because now youa section of guys paying money isn't too fair. Really, your stepping on something EVGA is known for across the board so I don't think they would want to mess with that and jeopardize what they've earned so far. 
 
4. They already have the chat setup with the podcasts/twitch etc... I thought, right?!?
 
5. Going to evga HQ, I doubt they will ever do that. You could try though, just watch the guard towers. :P
 
6. LAN partys they could setup though. That's doable and pretty easy.
 
7. Longer step up program probably wont happen. The point of the step up was to cover you for 90 days in case another card dropped so close to your purchase. Originally that potential was there and it happened much more back then than it does today. GPU drops are pretty good at staying on a set schedule anymore. Plus for the sake of refurbishing/bstock sales/RMA's its much better to have a card come back with 90 days or less used on it, which is good for everyone involved.
 
8. Longtime or frequent forum contributors I think should def be considered when making a pay for membership program because without them there is no forum, help, advice etc... and EVGA's forum is quite well known which helps new builders , especially, get the correct info they need and be part of a good community. Although, I am one of those so I am def biased a little bit, admittedly.  :)  Evgas techs are on quite a bit but without the frequent members, a lot of questions wouldn't get answered cause they surely cant get to everyone, but you guys are welcome to try!!! I think well let ErinW handle all those, lol.
 
9. Shipping .....this is a big one that can def get improved in general. More options would be nice because depending where you are and what your shipping you may get a better deal with a different carrier.  Not that you haven't done some things EVGA, I understand, but sometimes the shipping prices are absurd for a cheap item you may need in a pinch so a alternative carrier may be able to fix that. Im sure they've looked into this but we all need to understand that its about covering there butts as much as its about our butts. No one wants to take the hit on losing things worth more than just a few dollars.
 
10. EVGA NEEDS to incorporate our over seas brothers and sisters in more of the promotions and perks that the US and Canada customers enjoy. They need to put us all on equal footing and spread the joy to all! :) Seriously. They really are a very good customer service company, but that service hasn't seemed to transfer well to other countrys, since day one, which is a crying shame for the users being beat over the head by a ASUS warranty nightmare, although maybe over seas and closer to ASUS HQ its not as bad like with the US and EVGA?! They do get there own exclusive promos and perks but they don't seem to see as many of them as we do. 
 
Well, that's all I got.... this wall of text ends now. Thank god, huh?  \m/
 








Very well said wmmills. I don't think too many people would disagree with you.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 09:38:51 (permalink)
If there's say a monthly subscription, what about "free" EVGA bucks equal to the sub fee? say 4.49 a month sub, with 5 EVGA bucks a month (kind of like how they sell gift cards, with $20 cards sold for $19, as it locks in that money to be spent at the place the card is for.
 
then tack on a few minor things like forum badge and maybe an extra entry to some of the contests/giveaways.
 




 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 09:43:13 (permalink)
My thoughts:
  • Amazon Prime benefits.
  • Exclusive stock/priority to items and step-ups
  • Improved Blue Ribbon system/monthly "bucks" to reduce checkout.
  • Limited edition items with purchase. stickers/trinkets/swag gear, etc.
  • Exclusive EVGA in game items (similar to twitch)
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 13:24:35 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.
 
 


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 13:58:09 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.
 
 




If I pay to join a club, I do not want "FREE" stuff. But why join a club if there will be no reason to.
To a some extent, everyone reading this that can reply already is a member.
If I have to pay to be a member a step up the ladder, of course we should get some thing in return. Or why do it?
The big question is how much in return.
I myself would like to see more shipping options, USPS, UPS and FedX. 2 day 3 day, ground, priority ECT...
I have newegg membership and I save a ton on shipping. Newegg has always been good to me. EVGA too, for that matter!!!

 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 14:16:02 (permalink)
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If I pay to join a club, I do not want "FREE" stuff. But why join a club if there will be no reason to.
To a some extent, everyone reading this that can reply already is a member.
If I have to pay to be a member a step up the ladder, of course we should get some thing in return. Or why do it?
The big question is how much in return.
I myself would like to see more shipping options, USPS, UPS and FedX. 2 day 3 day, ground, priority ECT...
I have newegg membership and I save a ton on shipping. Newegg has always been good to me. EVGA too, for that matter!!!


I agree - certainly it's a quid pro quo, but as you said, the big question is how much in return. EVGA will benefit from increased member loyalty for ongoing purchases, but at the same time offering immediate freebies worth more than the subscription fee just for joining up (suggested earlier in this thread) is silly - people will join just for that and you'll never hear from them again. That is of no benefit to EVGA whatsoever. Definitely agree, more shipping options and reasonable shipping prices has been mentioned by many people on this thread. I'm now aware that the Powerlink retail packaging *does* fit nicely into a USPS small flat rate priority mail box, and USPS supplies the boxes for free.. retail shipping anywhere in US48 is $6.80 using those, and tracking is included plus I think up to $50 insurance. I use Amazon Prime and man I do save a lot out of that, but Amazon gets a lot out of it as well as we purchase much of our household items through there. Volume is where the subscription model really starts to pay off for both seller and purchaser, and that may be an issue for EVGA.


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 14:54:59 (permalink)
"Lifetime Guarantee" might work for those who keep their cards forever, but most AFAIK swap out every few years or so enthusiast wise . I am at least a gen or 2 behind, I also have 2 480's along with some other GPUs that I just couldn't kill off with OCing and folding the bajeesus with......lifetime warranty........ I have upgraded (for me to 980's) so basically including a warranty like that would (in my situation) not have any added value since I do upgrade in 2-3 years anyway due to gaming requirements and the added efficiency of the newer gen of GPUs. 

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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:04:39 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.
 
 




No one believes that and you know it.  You clearly don't know how to attract people with a membership. You do know evga gives out tons of evgabuck (folding@evga) as a promotion to attract customers. Yet you don't think the would give away item that costs around $5 to mfg.
 
What kind of membership charges 10x more than topical member will get out of it.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:07:42 (permalink)
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If I pay to join a club, I do not want "FREE" stuff. But why join a club if there will be no reason to.
To a some extent, everyone reading this that can reply already is a member.
If I have to pay to be a member a step up the ladder, of course we should get some thing in return. Or why do it?
The big question is how much in return.
I myself would like to see more shipping options, USPS, UPS and FedX. 2 day 3 day, ground, priority ECT...
I have newegg membership and I save a ton on shipping. Newegg has always been good to me. EVGA too, for that matter!!!




Didn't you know, were here for evga to milk us only. How dare we expect to receive a good value for our hard earned money.     
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:37:02 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.


No one believes that and you know it.  You clearly don't know how to attract people with a membership. You do know evga gives out tons of evgabuck (folding@evga) as a promotion to attract customers. Yet you don't think the would give away item that costs around $5 to mfg.
 
What kind of membership charges 10x more than topical member will get out of it.


Clearly you have not looked at the Powerlink thread and all the entitled rants in there. I am amazed there is even one person alive that isn't aware of the entitlement mentality rampant in our society today - well, except for those who believe they are entitled to everything for next to nothing....
 
You need to realize that there are TWO SIDES to consider when looking at a subscription model, not just ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW... sheesh     ..and as it happens, many years ago one of my positions was as a product manager designing a extremely successful incentive program for a company with over 15,000 employees, plus I have 2 degrees majoring in accounting and economics, both with honors, which included cost accounting and finance which is relevant to this, and my employment for the last 6+ years is as an auditor, so yes, I do have a few clues.. the big difference between us is that I am looking at it to be mutually beneficial, whereas you're apparently just out for as much as you can get personally and are possibly butthurt that I pointed out issues with your proposal earlier that gave extremely large benefits to members right from joining up. Again, look up what opportunity costs mean in relation to cost accounting when you keep going on about $5 manufacturing costs, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I am not the only one who thought you were expecting to much, again, go back on this thread and see for yourself. Constructive criticism is not only valid but also vital when considering such models.
 
Nowhere did I or anyone else ever say anything about membership charges 10x more than typical member will get out of it, once again you're just making things up... GROW UP.
 
You've already been warned to stop this sniping bs, so freaking cut it out already.
 
 


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:37:27 (permalink)
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If I pay to join a club, I do not want "FREE" stuff. But why join a club if there will be no reason to.
To a some extent, everyone reading this that can reply already is a member.
If I have to pay to be a member a step up the ladder, of course we should get some thing in return. Or why do it?
The big question is how much in return.
I myself would like to see more shipping options, USPS, UPS and FedX. 2 day 3 day, ground, priority ECT...
I have newegg membership and I save a ton on shipping. Newegg has always been good to me. EVGA too, for that matter!!!




Didn't you know, were here for evga to milk us only. How dare we expect to receive a good value for our hard earned money.     


Cut it out MSim.
 


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:50:17 (permalink)
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.


No one believes that and you know it.  You clearly don't know how to attract people with a membership. You do know evga gives out tons of evgabuck (folding@evga) as a promotion to attract customers. Yet you don't think the would give away item that costs around $5 to mfg.
 
What kind of membership charges 10x more than topical member will get out of it.


Clearly you have not looked at the Powerlink thread and all the entitled rants in there. I am amazed there is even one person alive that isn't aware of the entitlement mentality rampant in our society today - well, except for those who believe they are entitled to everything for next to nothing....
 
You need to realize that there are TWO SIDES to consider when looking at a subscription model, not just ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW... sheesh     ..and as it happens, many years ago one of my positions was as a product manager designing a extremely successful incentive program for a company with over 15,000 employees, plus I have 2 degrees majoring in accounting and economics, both with honors, which included cost accounting and finance which is relevant to this, and my employment for the last 6+ years is as an auditor, so yes, I do have a few clues.. the big difference between us is that I am looking at it to be mutually beneficial, whereas you're apparently just out for as much as you can get personally and are possibly butthurt that I pointed out issues with your proposal earlier that gave extremely large benefits to members right from joining up. Again, look up what opportunity costs mean in relation to cost accounting when you keep going on about $5 manufacturing costs, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I am not the only one who thought you were expecting to much, again, go back on this thread and see for yourself. Constructive criticism is not only valid but also vital when considering such models.
 
Nowhere did I or anyone else ever say anything about membership charges 10x more than typical member will get out of it, once again you're just making things up... GROW UP.
 
You've already been warned to stop this sniping bs, so freaking cut it out already.
 
 




If you bother to think without bashing my idea because you have a grudge against me. You would of seen it was only for new members, the other ideas i added would of helped people renew it for years to come if they always buy latest gpu.
 
Snpping??? nothing in the ToS about snipping at all.  I haven't made any personal attacks towards you or insult you at all. 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 15:50:51 (permalink)
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If I pay to join a club, I do not want "FREE" stuff. But why join a club if there will be no reason to.
To a some extent, everyone reading this that can reply already is a member.
If I have to pay to be a member a step up the ladder, of course we should get some thing in return. Or why do it?
The big question is how much in return.
I myself would like to see more shipping options, USPS, UPS and FedX. 2 day 3 day, ground, priority ECT...
I have newegg membership and I save a ton on shipping. Newegg has always been good to me. EVGA too, for that matter!!!




Didn't you know, were here for evga to milk us only. How dare we expect to receive a good value for our hard earned money.     


Cut it out MSim.
 




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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 16:29:15 (permalink)
 
We're just going around in circles. A Mod has warned you.
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If the membership fee is on a monthly basis... lifetime warranty on video cards as long as you're a member? 


+1 to this. But dont forget about motherboards and PSUs as well.
 
No monthly membership. Its better if its a one time fee with every product you have registered/own. Of course the one time fee should not be ridiculously overpriced.  We are in fact paying alot of money already for said products such as GPUs, PSUs, and motherboards. EVGA can do something such as any product from 2010 till now should be a base for what qualifies for the lifetime warranty. If I recall the 580 GPUs had lifetime warranty on them already and they were released in 2010 or 2011?
 
Now if you get a new card, motherboard and PSU in the future just pay a extra $5 towards each new product to get the lifetime warranty while having the premium membership. That means if you get 3 GPUs you pay a total of $15. Then another things comes to mind is what if I sell said GPU, PSU or motherboard in the market place, will that lifetime warranty be transferable to another premium member who has a membership? Or would they too pay the extra $5 on said product to get the lifetime warranty? That's my two cents.


Some people think we should pay 10x more for a membership than what we get out of it. How dare we expect to receive any kind of value for our hard earned money.


Similarly, some entitled people think we should get everything for free and EVGA is a charity and not a for-profit business. How dare they not give us free stuff when we purchase items from them at market value and enjoy the best after-sale service in the industry included with that purchase.


No one believes that and you know it.  You clearly don't know how to attract people with a membership. You do know evga gives out tons of evgabuck (folding@evga) as a promotion to attract customers. Yet you don't think the would give away item that costs around $5 to mfg.
 
What kind of membership charges 10x more than topical member will get out of it.


Clearly you have not looked at the Powerlink thread and all the entitled rants in there. I am amazed there is even one person alive that isn't aware of the entitlement mentality rampant in our society today - well, except for those who believe they are entitled to everything for next to nothing....
 
You need to realize that there are TWO SIDES to consider when looking at a subscription model, not just ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW... sheesh     ..and as it happens, many years ago one of my positions was as a product manager designing a extremely successful incentive program for a company with over 15,000 employees, plus I have 2 degrees majoring in accounting and economics, both with honors, which included cost accounting and finance which is relevant to this, and my employment for the last 6+ years is as an auditor, so yes, I do have a few clues.. the big difference between us is that I am looking at it to be mutually beneficial, whereas you're apparently just out for as much as you can get personally and are possibly butthurt that I pointed out issues with your proposal earlier that gave extremely large benefits to members right from joining up. Again, look up what opportunity costs mean in relation to cost accounting when you keep going on about $5 manufacturing costs, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I am not the only one who thought you were expecting to much, again, go back on this thread and see for yourself. Constructive criticism is not only valid but also vital when considering such models.
 
Nowhere did I or anyone else ever say anything about membership charges 10x more than typical member will get out of it, once again you're just making things up... GROW UP.
 
You've already been warned to stop this sniping bs, so freaking cut it out already.



If you bother to think without bashing my idea because you have a grudge against me. You would of seen it was only for new members, the other ideas i added would of helped people renew it for years to come if they always buy latest gpu.
 
Snpping??? nothing in the ToS about snipping at all.  I haven't made any personal attacks towards you or insult you at all. 

AGAIN, I pointed out some issues with your proposal, and AGAIN, the main issue was of offering a reward just for joining that is worth more than the subscription fee - that is ludicrous, and invites abuse at EVGA's expense, and there were other issues as was pointed out clearly and logically and without any malice. I was not alone in thinking that, so why are you posting sarcastic sniping comments at me over and over after a Mod has asked for it to stop? Just because each post is not breaking ToS per se by itself does not mean you can continue doing it after a warning from a Mod to cut it out - Mods are not stupid, they can see what you are doing, furthermore, this is a private forum, and if the Mods/Admin decide that using the word 'Belgium' in a sentence is grounds for a permanent ban, then they can do it, regardless of your claims of not breaching ToS. Do you understand this at all?
 
Again I am asking you politely to STOP this sarcastic sniping bs over and over.
 
 


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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 16:51:50 (permalink)
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AGAIN, I pointed out some issues with your proposal, and AGAIN, the main issue was of offering a reward just for joining that is worth more than the subscription fee - that is ludicrous, and invites abuse at EVGA's expense, and there were other issues as was pointed out clearly and logically and without any malice. I was not alone in thinking that, so why are you posting sarcastic sniping comments at me over and over after a Mod has asked for it to stop? Just because each post is not breaking ToS per se by itself does not mean you can continue doing it after a warning from a Mod to cut it out - Mods are not stupid, they can see what you are doing, furthermore, this is a private forum, and if the Mods/Admin decide that using the word 'Belgium' in a sentence is grounds for a permanent ban, then they can do it, regardless of your claims of not breaching ToS. Do you understand this at all?
 
Again I am asking you politely to STOP this sarcastic sniping bs over and over.
 
 





I don't see "snipping" in the ToS.
Did i make a personal attack.... NO
Did i insult anyone.... NO
 
I'm just joining in the discussion like everyone else is free to do. My comment is valid, some people do think we should have to pay more for a membership than we get out of it.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 17:58:31 (permalink)
I can see this idea getting tossed out before it begins...... Congrats



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Re: EVGA Membership Program? 2016/11/16 19:08:50 (permalink)
It's going to have to offer meaningful things that people will want but doesn't cost EVGA a mint in the process. Things like a quarterly membership only design t-shirt, access to various game closed betas, maybe one cross ship RMA per x months of accrued membership, advanced information on upcoming EVGA convention/LAN events they're participating in, etc...
 
I wouldn't call it a "membership" program though. Bad name for it. I like what WSGF did for their group, they called them "Insiders". An EVGA Insider would have a slightly different definition here though. Insider status on WSGF was earned through merit by consistently assisting people. Maybe tie in the blue-ribbon program as a minimum requirement.
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