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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 15:02:03 (permalink)
So that means 2063 without touching clocks and 2300 with overclock is faar better than your card!
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 16:51:59 (permalink)
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So that means 2063 without touching clocks and 2300 with overclock is faar better than your card!

Ok I read that article, and they did in fact say that they reached a stable overclock at 2323 Mhz. To that I say BULLHONKEY. I'd say something stronger but the mods would crucify me. I simply don't believe their claim. Nobody has claimed overclocks that high on straight up water. They also claimed that speeds of upwards of 2800 MHz can be had with LN2. As I recall, when K|ngp|n set the single-card record briefly (it was right before the Titan XPs came out, so it didn't last long) he "only" got his 1080 Classified up to 2594 MHz with LN2. That others are regularly hitting 2800 now I simply don't believe.
 
These guys will have to prove their 2323 MHz on water claim. Notice they didn't post any actual screenshots of any program showing that it was really running that fast, or that it actually successfully ran through all the various benchmarks at that speed. Until they do, I'm calling BS and simply not believing it. That's a higher OC than I have yet to see anyone else, anywhere, ever, report. These guys talk about it like this off-the-shelf watercooled Zotac hits that with ease. 

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 19:06:23 (permalink)
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So that means 2063 without touching clocks and 2300 with overclock is faar better than your card!

Ok I read that article, and they did in fact say that they reached a stable overclock at 2323 Mhz. To that I say BULLHONKEY. I'd say something stronger but the mods would crucify me. I simply don't believe their claim. Nobody has claimed overclocks that high on straight up water. They also claimed that speeds of upwards of 2800 MHz can be had with LN2. As I recall, when K|ngp|n set the single-card record briefly (it was right before the Titan XPs came out, so it didn't last long) he "only" got his 1080 Classified up to 2594 MHz with LN2. That others are regularly hitting 2800 now I simply don't believe.
 
These guys will have to prove their 2323 MHz on water claim. Notice they didn't post any actual screenshots of any program showing that it was really running that fast, or that it actually successfully ran through all the various benchmarks at that speed. Until they do, I'm calling BS and simply not believing it. That's a higher OC than I have yet to see anyone else, anywhere, ever, report. These guys talk about it like this off-the-shelf watercooled Zotac hits that with ease. 


True dat! Yeah I seen those shady cropped pics they used to show the benches at 2300+. Get real. It's a huge publicity stunt to get a bunch of clicks to your site.

  
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 20:03:29 (permalink)
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You guys wanna see an EVGA Hydro Copper that you can actually get, today?

 
 

 
 
 
Oh wait, that's a 1080 SC sporting an EK full cover water block and the original EVGA backplate. And I've had the 1080 for nearly three months now, and the EK block on it for several weeks.

At some point you guys suffering with several year old cards gotta make a decision whether you're going to poop or get off the pot. If you're still using a 580 and really want a Hydro Copper, and EVGA is simply failing to sell you one, you have to decide whether you just keep waiting forever, or help yourself. While it might not be called the Hydro Copper and come like this out of the box, you are in fact able to help yourself to the final product right now, today, if you really want to.

If you're holding on because you're convinced that EVGA's eventual Hydro Copper will be a "special" 1080 that works better, then just go buy a 1080 FTW and put EK's new FTW water block on it. From what I read EK has finally released them.
 
I have no idea why EVGA can't seem to get this product out to you guys. It may be simply 1080 supply problems in general, or it could be that EVGA is simply working on too many different products with too few people, or who knows what the problem is. At this point we're over three months into the 1080, and you Hydro Copper fanbois have been waiting for months and months with nothing to show for it.
 
Either EVGA gives you some real info to tide you over, or releases a product you can actually buy, or you take the problem into your own hands and get the product that will satisfy your needs using what's actually available on the market today. Or keep waiting and missing out on games. To the guy who can't play The Division because his card is too slow, I have bad news for you: you missed the boat. The Division is dying a death through lack of new content, and only a small fraction of its playerbase is still plugging away. Don't get me wrong, I loved that game, warts and all, and I played it far, far longer than most of my friends, but even I haven't logged in to the Division in weeks. I just played it out.


What is the part number on that block and the card? Thank you
 


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 20:31:29 (permalink)
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What is the part number on that block and the card? Thank you/

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 20:31:32 (permalink)
That's a evga 1080 sc card and the ek-fc 1080 water block. It's made to fit all founder editions 1080s. The evga 1080 super clock uses the same pcb as the founders edition so it will fit it.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc1080-gtx-acetal

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc1080-gtx-nickel

https://www.ekwb.com/shop...1080-gtx-acetal-nickel

They have backplatea as well but as you can see you can just us the evga 1080 sc backplate with the block insted.

  
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/14 20:35:55 (permalink)
Zotac 1080 arctic storm jayztwocents
https://youtu.be/MwQ4N8ogLl8
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/15 01:59:17 (permalink)
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Zotac 1080 arctic storm jayztwocents
https://youtu.be/MwQ4N8ogLl8

Yeah, he got it to 2164, which I can believe if it's a good card. I can get mine to 2152, but it's not entirely stable at that speed, so I keep it at 2139. What I don't believe, and cannot believe absent some really credible proof, is that this German website really took an off-the-shelf Zotac Arctic Storm and ran it stably (or at all) at 2323 Mhz.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 08:38:32 (permalink)
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What is the part number on that block and the card? Thank you/

The water block is the EK FC1080 GTX - Nickel
The card is the EVGA 1080 SC - P/N: 08G-P4-6183-KR.


Thank you sir :)


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 09:29:49 (permalink)
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You guys wanna see an EVGA Hydro Copper that you can actually get, today?

 
 

 
 
 
Oh wait, that's a 1080 SC sporting an EK full cover water block and the original EVGA backplate. And I've had the 1080 for nearly three months now, and the EK block on it for several weeks.

At some point you guys suffering with several year old cards gotta make a decision whether you're going to poop or get off the pot. If you're still using a 580 and really want a Hydro Copper, and EVGA is simply failing to sell you one, you have to decide whether you just keep waiting forever, or help yourself. While it might not be called the Hydro Copper and come like this out of the box, you are in fact able to help yourself to the final product right now, today, if you really want to.

If you're holding on because you're convinced that EVGA's eventual Hydro Copper will be a "special" 1080 that works better, then just go buy a 1080 FTW and put EK's new FTW water block on it. From what I read EK has finally released them.
 
I have no idea why EVGA can't seem to get this product out to you guys. It may be simply 1080 supply problems in general, or it could be that EVGA is simply working on too many different products with too few people, or who knows what the problem is. At this point we're over three months into the 1080, and you Hydro Copper fanbois have been waiting for months and months with nothing to show for it.
 
Either EVGA gives you some real info to tide you over, or releases a product you can actually buy, or you take the problem into your own hands and get the product that will satisfy your needs using what's actually available on the market today. Or keep waiting and missing out on games. To the guy who can't play The Division because his card is too slow, I have bad news for you: you missed the boat. The Division is dying a death through lack of new content, and only a small fraction of its playerbase is still plugging away. Don't get me wrong, I loved that game, warts and all, and I played it far, far longer than most of my friends, but even I haven't logged in to the Division in weeks. I just played it out.


You are right, I need to just get a card and slap a waterblock on it.  I originally had the gtx 480 hydrocopper but i got to do the stepup and got a reference gtx 580 that I put a massive copper waterblock on.  I am hesitant to get the gtx 1080 ftw because of all the forums reporting black screen issues.  I may just hold out for a classified ek block but i have a feeling that will just be the hydrocopper edition.  One of my coworkers talked me down last night from going balls deep and just ordering the titan xp and getting the block for it.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 12:15:01 (permalink)
Little advise from someone that's been around the block with 11 different 1080 cards trying to find 2 to play together.. buy the Titan xp and block forsure as the blower fan cooler is not going to cool it andoesn't call it done. Save yourself a lot of time thinking about it and issues dealing with finding a block to match your 1080 and the end result of overclocking poorly.

Out of 3 classifieds 1 is good the other 2 had voltage limit issues which I was told was basically the chip was not a good performer and could not be pushed past default clocks.

Returning the 2nd one is a row today.. might grab 2 evga 1080 sc cards with blocks this time but I'm trying to talk myself out of taking the gamble of a turd 1080 again. Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

So in the end the Titan is already well ahead of the game from the 1080 and if she overclocks it will really take off more then a overclocked 1080.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 13:23:37 (permalink)
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You are right, I need to just get a card and slap a waterblock on it.  I originally had the gtx 480 hydrocopper but i got to do the stepup and got a reference gtx 580 that I put a massive copper waterblock on.  I am hesitant to get the gtx 1080 ftw because of all the forums reporting black screen issues.  I may just hold out for a classified ek block but i have a feeling that will just be the hydrocopper edition.  One of my coworkers talked me down last night from going balls deep and just ordering the titan xp and getting the block for it.

Nah man, go for it! Don't be talked down from that ledge! If you have the money, I'm sure you'd love the Titan XP with a water block on it. EK has already released one. If you don't want to go with the Titan though then yeah, just pick a 1080 (hopefully from EVGA), slap an EK or other water block on it, and drive on. I have no idea why EVGA hasn't been able to deliver this yet. I am a big EVGA fan, and I truly want them to succeed, and have put my own money where my mouth is (I'm on my third EVGA video card that I can remember, my second EVGA motherboard, and an EVGA power supply), but for whatever reasons they can't seem to get their hydro copper out. So wait if you really want to, but there are great solutions available right now. The only thing (besides lack of money...) making me hesitate to pull the trigger on another 1080 SC/EK combo is worry that I might not do as well in the silicon lottery on a second 1080 SC as I seem to have done on the first one. Oh, and curiosity about what EVGA will release in a few months. There is that.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 13:31:01 (permalink)
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Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

I think about that, and worry that a second 1080 SC wouldn't turn out as well as my first one did, but two things make me think more positively about this:
 
1) we typically hear more of the bad than of the good on boards like this, so I'm not convinced the 1080 dud situation is as bad as it's made out to be, and
 
2) in SLI I'd probably be very satisfied with cards even if they don't clock as well as my 1080 SC does right now. I run this at 2139Mhz rock stable in various games and benchmarks (2152 but not rock stable), but with SLI I'd probably be more than satisfied just running the pair at 2025 or 2050. I mean, for my purposes, that would be a dream solution. I push for 2139 right now only because I have a single card and am not quite there yet for 4k/60 in some games. For lots of games though I'm well past 4K/60 with the single card. I was playing a game last night (granted, not modern AAA graphics quality) where I was getting 95-125 fps at 4K/ultra.
 
I play games that are fun to me, and it's a bonus if they look great too. I can't say that with my choice of games I'm not already well served by the single 1080. Two would be fantastic overkill, and even with a hypothetical future 120hz 4K gsync monitor I'd still be hitting 90-100 in the games that are currently not quite at 4K/60, and the rest would be pegged. That's certainly good enough for me for several years to come.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 13:54:46 (permalink)
I will say this with the sli. Generally, sli works fine with games that support it. If I was to use my old 980tis as an example, both were stud overclockers when not configured in sli. I had two classys that clocked to 2100 and thats its. One card obviously got hotter than the other so i ended up settling at around 2025ish. When there was one card, settled generally around 2088 but held 2100 pretty steadily. I dropped sli because it just didnt make sense to me to keep it. One 1080 classy was rocking all my games and newer AAA titles dont even have sli support, so it was all a waste of money if you think of it that way.

I would say just ditch sli and run one card or just get the titan and be done with it. Most are having good luck with their cards.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/16 23:32:59 (permalink)
Try to resist to the strix + bitspower waterblock plz evga gave me some infos :'((((


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/17 07:29:14 (permalink)
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Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

I think about that, and worry that a second 1080 SC wouldn't turn out as well as my first one did, but two things make me think more positively about this:
 
1) we typically hear more of the bad than of the good on boards like this, so I'm not convinced the 1080 dud situation is as bad as it's made out to be, and
 
2) in SLI I'd probably be very satisfied with cards even if they don't clock as well as my 1080 SC does right now. I run this at 2139Mhz rock stable in various games and benchmarks (2152 but not rock stable), but with SLI I'd probably be more than satisfied just running the pair at 2025 or 2050. I mean, for my purposes, that would be a dream solution. I push for 2139 right now only because I have a single card and am not quite there yet for 4k/60 in some games. For lots of games though I'm well past 4K/60 with the single card. I was playing a game last night (granted, not modern AAA graphics quality) where I was getting 95-125 fps at 4K/ultra.
 
I play games that are fun to me, and it's a bonus if they look great too. I can't say that with my choice of games I'm not already well served by the single 1080. Two would be fantastic overkill, and even with a hypothetical future 120hz 4K gsync monitor I'd still be hitting 90-100 in the games that are currently not quite at 4K/60, and the rest would be pegged. That's certainly good enough for me for several years to come.


Very true, very true.. just 2 runing 2050-2100 would be just fine with me.

Going to test my 4th classified here shorty and hoping it's a good one with no dreaded voltage limit "1" coming in at below -200 stock clocks like the last 2!

  
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/17 09:24:17 (permalink)
4th classified is good! No limits at 1 so 0 down clocking of the core just like my first card. Default out od rhe box will run 2025mhz at 1.43v and climbs slowly to 1.05v i believe. Almost ran a bench at 2190mhz at 1.093v but locks up after 5 mins or so. 2164mhz is fine at 1.083v.

So the hunt is over finally.. hopefully they don't cook eachother with 1 slot in between but I'm sure it will happen if the first card will max out at 59c after an hour of witcher 3.

Only flaw on the 2nd card I found so far is that the max the ram wants to do before artifacts is +500. At 600 I get slight screen flashing every now and then. The first card will run around 900+ almost 12k! No big deal. Water cooling may fix that but crap would cost me another $260 for ek blocks and $34 for a bridge and another $80 for a 120.3 rad. Wife won't let me. Could go custom old school swiftech universal vga water blocks and just keep the black aluminum plate on there to cool the mem and vreg and point a powerful fan at the end of the cards but I feel it's risky.. though the overkill 14.3 phase controller does as I've read run much cooler but cool enough?

  
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/22 15:59:55 (permalink)
Any update on the 1080 waterblock ? EVGA are you waiting for the 1080 Ti? No 1080 Hydro Copper?
 
Let me spend my money :'(


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/23 19:20:13 (permalink)
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Any update on the 1080 waterblock ? EVGA are you waiting for the 1080 Ti? No 1080 Hydro Copper?
 
Let me spend my money :'(




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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/24 06:57:24 (permalink)
Also waiting on update on Hydro Copper card...
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/25 10:39:54 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/26 13:44:04 (permalink)
Also still waiting on info about this!
 

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/26 13:53:38 (permalink)
still not released? Guys 1080ti is real or no?
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/26 19:56:51 (permalink)
Can we please get a simple YES or NO, should we wait for hydro copper or just move on and get something else and a water block? Jacob it's been 5 months and not a single word on that, is this how EVGA treats their loyal customers now days? It gotten pretty ridicules... Not sure what else to say/// 


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/26 20:53:03 (permalink)
WE WANT MEAT!! ...ehhhh no i want an hydro copper GC :'(


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/27 07:47:31 (permalink)
Battlefield 1 incomming and still don't have EVGA GTX 1080 Hydro Copper :D
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/27 19:54:09 (permalink)
I bit the bullet bought a 1080FTW in spite of all the reported problems and an EK FTW waterblock.  Tested the card for 4 days BF4, Folding, Overwatch etc. absolutely no issues.  Slapped on the waterblock today (kept the stock backplate, not difficult) and cranked it up to +152 Gpu +150 Mem. (130% power target) resulting in 2151 @ 42 deg. c.  As usual the quality of the EK block is great, however the stock cooler had a few scratches on the GPU contact surface I haven't seen that before.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/28 13:19:33 (permalink)
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I bit the bullet bought a 1080FTW in spite of all the reported problems and an EK FTW waterblock.  Tested the card for 4 days BF4, Folding, Overwatch etc. absolutely no issues.  Slapped on the waterblock today (kept the stock backplate, not difficult) and cranked it up to +152 Gpu +150 Mem. (130% power target) resulting in 2151 @ 42 deg. c.  As usual the quality of the EK block is great, however the stock cooler had a few scratches on the GPU contact surface I haven't seen that before.




Whelp... I finally did the same.  I followed your lead and I just bought the 1080FTW and an EK FTW waterblock and nickel backplate as well.  After 4 months of waiting, I finally gave up since there have been zero updates on a card that we hardly believe even exists at this point.  Newegg will be shipping my FTW card out today to hopefully be received by the weekend, and then Performance-PC's is shipping my waterblock to be here late next week (side note: Why does Performance-PC not have better shipping options to California... come on with that $18 minimum shipping cost). 
 
I hope I can see similar results as you did once everything is connected to the loop.  Here's to a free copy of Gears of War 4 too
 
 

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/28 20:01:51 (permalink)
I managed to get it to 2164 while folding however I had to crank up the GPU overclock a LOT!  I don't remember the actual offset but I was surprised it didn't crash.  The temperature went up about 3 degrees as well, these cards are interesting as they take a large amount of gpu offset once you pass a certain threshold for very little gain.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/09/30 15:09:44 (permalink)
Finally got an answer from the man, we getting HydroCopper soon!


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