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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/28 02:03:27 (permalink)
I can't believe, I must buy one of that two version HydroCopper or Hybrid.
I'm in loved... in their look. My God both are so beautifull.
I saw and ACX 3.0... OK it's cool, innovation, Classified look powerful and they are nicer than any competition, but these two...
I would like so much one first Hydro Copper card on EKWB Predator, at least 240mm. If not I will buy Hybrid.
I hope that's aluminum shield. 
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/28 02:50:33 (permalink)
Guys are you happy because both of liquid cooled models arrive with 8+8 pin power connectors.
Hybrid and Hydro Copper I'm very happy because of that. 

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/28 11:13:11 (permalink)
I'll be happy if I can ever buy one! :p
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/29 07:25:17 (permalink)
I might have to upgrade my PS to get 4x8pins without doing some cabling kludges. I'd prefer 2x(8+6)
 
Seeing the 8+8 power connectors makes me start thinking more about a DIY AIO/hybrid solution to the FE/reference models.
 
I will stay away from the bleeding edge of overclocks and voltages. My preference is long term stability and reliability.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/29 07:32:39 (permalink)
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I might have to upgrade my PS to get 4x8pins without doing some cabling kludges. I'd prefer 2x(8+6)
 
Seeing the 8+8 power connectors makes me start thinking more about a DIY AIO/hybrid solution to the FE/reference models.
 
I will stay away from the bleeding edge of overclocks and voltages. My preference is long term stability and reliability.


Then you should probably just buy the reference PCB, with only one 8-pin :-)
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/29 08:01:51 (permalink)
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I might have to upgrade my PS to get 4x8pins without doing some cabling kludges. I'd prefer 2x(8+6)
 
Seeing the 8+8 power connectors makes me start thinking more about a DIY AIO/hybrid solution to the FE/reference models.
 
I will stay away from the bleeding edge of overclocks and voltages. My preference is long term stability and reliability.


Then you should probably just buy the reference PCB, with only one 8-pin :-)




I agree and that is likely the path I will choose. I already have 1 FE on its way to me. If I decide I want to upgrade to SLI and need better cooling, then I will likely put in a pre-order for a 2nd card with the EVGA blower cooler. Then wait for an add-on AIO cooling solution.
 
btw I did just check my (yet uninstalled) PS upgrade and it does have 4x8 pcie connectors. But that doesn't change my thoughts above. 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/30 06:56:44 (permalink)
Question is, when will they be available?



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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/30 07:24:22 (permalink)
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Question is, when will they be available?


My question too. I suspect that until they get the modified ACX cards close to finalized that the H2O variants will have to sit on the back burner.
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/30 16:13:21 (permalink)
Is the hydro copper gonna have dual bios like the ftw ? This card look very promising with it's custom pcb and 8+8 pin power delivery. Can't wait to replace my 980ti hydro copper for this one :p

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/05/31 07:48:54 (permalink)
Picking up a Hydro soon as it drops. My 980ti HC has been phenomenal.  
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/02 22:21:48 (permalink)
Anyone see any updates on the hydro? All I can find is hybrid stuff.
 
Going crazy. The GPU is the last piece that I need for my new build. Want to stay with EVGA, but because of the EK fiasco, I'm stuck with either getting a FE (boo) or waiting for the hydro... as the alternative is to wait for EK to release blocks for the other custom boards then void my warranty.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 00:24:05 (permalink)
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Don't get why people buy the hydrocopper. Buy an ek block and the ref based pcb and you got the same card for less and better 2nd hand sale  or for when your loop is down as you still have the stock cooler for whatever reasons. Your paying the cost of the regular plus the block and some for a hydrocopper. Evga needs to throw in an air cooler to the hydrocopper bundle for it to make sense.


Because you get a better bios installed with higher OC, higher stock clocks, and also if the card bricks you havent installed the block.
You pay for that extra deal, and most waterblocks itself are over $100 dollars without backplate + you get dual 8pins on it compared to most of the other variants.
Hope that answer why. Personally im running a GTX 780 HC with 365MHz OC at 1228MHz compared to stock cards with 863mhz, and with 1.3volts. Couldnt be happier with it.
Im sure gonna pay some extra for the HC version again cause im really happy with the old one and trust EVGA help me out with this one aswell.


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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 06:22:02 (permalink)
Hype about Hydro version is on end

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 17:55:26 (permalink)
Latest info.
Hi All

Update at the end of the week here in terms of the first stocks arriving, we hit an extra day delay on the SC so now first stocks likely next Monday 13th. There is a small chance we may still hit Friday 10th.

SC - 13th June.
FTW - 17th June.
Classified - End of June
Hybrid - Early July.
Hydro Copper - Late July

Just trying to keep dates updated here best I can.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 18:54:42 (permalink)
dedoxUpdate at the end of the week here in terms of the first stocks arriving, we hit an extra day delay on the SC so now first stocks likely next Monday 13th. There is a small chance we may still hit Friday 10th.

SC - 13th June.
FTW - 17th June.
Classified - End of June
Hybrid - Early July.
Hydro Copper - Late July

Just trying to keep dates updated here best I can.

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Thanks for the update! So, in early July the Hydro will be available for pre-order?
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 19:52:22 (permalink)
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dedoxUpdate at the end of the week here in terms of the first stocks arriving, we hit an extra day delay on the SC so now first stocks likely next Monday 13th. There is a small chance we may still hit Friday 10th.

SC - 13th June.
FTW - 17th June.
Classified - End of June
Hybrid - Early July.
Hydro Copper - Late July

Just trying to keep dates updated here best I can.

Ben@EVGA

 
Thanks for the update! So, in early July the Hydro will be available for pre-order?
 


Sadly yes.



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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/03 21:29:08 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/04 10:03:08 (permalink)
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Latest info.
Hi All

Update at the end of the week here in terms of the first stocks arriving, we hit an extra day delay on the SC so now first stocks likely next Monday 13th. There is a small chance we may still hit Friday 10th.

SC - 13th June.
FTW - 17th June.
Classified - End of June
Hybrid - Early July.
Hydro Copper - Late July

Just trying to keep dates updated here best I can.

Ben@EVGA



Yeah, saw that. Looks like I'm out. It's the last piece that I needed for my new PC. 2 more months is too long and it's not worth the effort of putting 780 GTXs in there as a temporary measure. Ordered 2 EK blocks and back plates and will go FE with a 2.0 GHz overclock. Was planning on jumping when the Titan comes out anyway so I'm not too bothered about performance. so far it's looking like theses chips don't have a lot of OC headroom. Will be watching closely to see if the AIBs find a way around this... If anything does, it'll be the classified.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/04 10:13:21 (permalink)
End of July?  Wow.  I can wait, but that sucks.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 01:11:05 (permalink)
That is a lot further out than I was expecting for the Hydro Copper. Might just get a Classified and use it stock until a block is released.
I wish EVGA would provide some info as to who will be making the block for they Hydro Copper, and the blocks they will sell for the Classified and FTW editions.

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 02:23:19 (permalink)
i think it would be better to buy an EK block and the "custom reference" 1080 nvidia is selling for $610. in the end it's the same thing. 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 03:44:13 (permalink)
I would first look for EVGA Hydro Copper, because card is ready for installation, if not than waterblock separately. 

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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 05:21:44 (permalink)
solomonshvi think it would be better to buy an EK block and the "custom reference" 1080 nvidia is selling for $610. in the end it's the same thing. 

 
The Hydro Copper is based on a custom PCB with extra power phases for GPU and RAM and also has an extra 8-pin power connector which will provide higher and more stable overclocks. And it is fully assembled so one does not void the warranty when installing a new waterblock. And the HC includes a backplate where as the Founders Edition's backplate will have to be removed and a new one purchased if using an EK block because it is not compatible with EK. And lastly, the HC looks better than an EK block with it's EVGA logo in LED. So, not the same. And worth the wait.
 
Edit: I forgot to mention the HC will have extra BIOS which, I assume, will be able to run extra voltage/power for the claimed 2.5Mhz.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 08:05:21 (permalink)
All of a sudden AMD RX 480 seems viable as temporary card until Hydro Copper is released.
...but releases end of June...
The GTX 980 Ti price should start going down due to 1070 release (June 10th).
 
Not a great time to have an HTC Vive and old video card. :(
 
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Went ahead and upgraded to used GTX 980 for $260 off ebay.
Should be enough to last me through to end of July :)
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 08:11:48 (permalink)
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solomonshvi think it would be better to buy an EK block and the "custom reference" 1080 nvidia is selling for $610. in the end it's the same thing. 

 
The Hydro Copper is based on a custom PCB with extra power phases for GPU and RAM and also has an extra 8-pin power connector which will provide higher and more stable overclocks. And it is fully assembled so one does not void the warranty when installing a new waterblock. And the HC includes a backplate where as the Founders Edition's backplate will have to be removed and a new one purchased if using an EK block because it is not compatible with EK. And lastly, the HC looks better than an EK block with it's EVGA logo in LED. So, not the same. And worth the wait.




It still looks like the amount of power supplied is irrelevant at this point.  As per Tom's Hardware:
 
Let’s get back to the voltage regulator's PWM controller, though. Nvidia’s GPU Boost 3.0 has a new set of voltage regulation requirements, resulting in significant changes. We would have expected a controller like International Rectifier's IR3536A to be paired with a pure 5+1-phase design. But that's not the case. A µP9511P is used instead, which is bad news for anyone who likes to overclock, since the interface and protocol used by tools such as MSI Afterburner and Gigabyte’s OC Guru won't work with this card. The change to a new controller, which isn’t very well documented at this point, is probably due to technical considerations.
 
EDIT: However...
 
Capacitors are located directly underneath the GPU to smooth out any spikes. The PWM controller is on this side of the board as well (it was on the front previously). Again, that gives Nvidia's partners some freedom to add their own power boards with different PWM controllers
 
 
I guess there is still some hope.  The HOF 1080 that hit better OC apparently has a different controller, though it isn't know if this is an approved board design yet from NVIDIA.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 10:42:26 (permalink)
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solomonshvi think it would be better to buy an EK block and the "custom reference" 1080 nvidia is selling for $610. in the end it's the same thing. 

 
The Hydro Copper is based on a custom PCB with extra power phases for GPU and RAM and also has an extra 8-pin power connector which will provide higher and more stable overclocks. And it is fully assembled so one does not void the warranty when installing a new waterblock. And the HC includes a backplate where as the Founders Edition's backplate will have to be removed and a new one purchased if using an EK block because it is not compatible with EK. And lastly, the HC looks better than an EK block with it's EVGA logo in LED. So, not the same. And worth the wait.
 
Edit: I forgot to mention the HC will have extra BIOS which, I assume, will be able to run extra voltage/power for the claimed 2.5Mhz.


It's appearing that these cards just don't OC well... Voltage or not. Newer articles are now thinking that the 8 pin is not the limiting factor. Also buying an EVGA FE won't void the warranty when you put in on water. Don't care about the LEDs because without a window no one is seeing it anyway. I'll go with this for a year until the Titan comes out.

My main issue now is that no reseller seems to have the FE in stock. I don't want to order from EVGA because they won't allow the package to be redirected to a ups location for pickup which is ridiculous because I have a job and I'm not taking a day off for this.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 12:43:09 (permalink)
eisenb11It's appearing that these cards just don't OC well... Voltage or not. Newer articles are now thinking that the 8 pin is not the limiting factor.



I have been reading/watching how this card performs and 2.1Mhz seems the limit with the FE cards. But, like the guy mentioned in the above post, it could be the new controller which doesn't work with the popular OC software suites. I am assuming the extra BIOS and 8-pin on the HC is what is going to be the difference. Since a 2.5Ghz liquid cooled card was announced weeks ago. And EVGA is the ONLY company out of the seven that sell GPUs that will allow one to add a waterblock without voiding the warranty.
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 13:00:27 (permalink)
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eisenb11It's appearing that these cards just don't OC well... Voltage or not. Newer articles are now thinking that the 8 pin is not the limiting factor.



I have been reading/watching how this card performs and 2.1Mhz seems the limit with the FE cards. But, like the guy mentioned in the above post, it could be the new controller which doesn't work with the popular OC software suites. I am assuming the extra BIOS and 8-pin on the HC is what is going to be the difference. Since a 2.5Ghz liquid cooled card was announced weeks ago. And EVGA is the ONLY company out of the seven that sell GPUs that will allow one to add a waterblock without voiding the warranty.



Yeah, I have the most faith in them figuring out the controller. Just read that another company got theirs up to 2.2 GHz on air, but they had to override the voltage lock to get to 1.3V (I believe) with a custom BIOS and it's unknown if NV will let them sell the card that way. If that's the case, it sounds like NV, themselves, is possibly another hurdle.
 
Wish I had more time to wait for the HC because it looks awesome, but I've been on a shopping spree and almost everything is here. SM950 Pro, AX1500i, I7-6900k, R5E mb, EK monoblock, fittings, acrylic tubes, etc... almost all good to go. Not to mention new tools (drill bits, hole saws, mandrels, new heat gun, etc.). Just need 2x 1080s and the EK blocks/backplates to get here. Would wait for the HC, but my 2x 780 GTX SCs are struggling with my Oculus and the current AAA releases. Looks like I'll have to settle for a 2.0GHz-ish OC for now.
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/05 13:35:28 (permalink)
eisenb11Wish I had more time to wait for the HC because it looks awesome, but I've been on a shopping spree and almost everything is here. SM950 Pro, AX1500i, I7-6900k, R5E mb, EK monoblock, fittings, acrylic tubes, etc... almost all good to go. Not to mention new tools (drill bits, hole saws, mandrels, new heat gun, etc.). Just need 2x 1080s and the EK blocks/backplates to get here. Would wait for the HC, but my 2x 780 GTX SCs are struggling with my Oculus and the current AAA releases. Looks like I'll have to settle for a 2.0GHz-ish OC for now.

 
I'm have the same situation; 50% through my new build but now waiting for the premium 1080s to drop so I can finish the PTGE loop.
 
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Re: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 1080 2016/06/10 03:04:02 (permalink)
Interesting, it looks like design for cooler and probably PCB for hydro changed... compare it to the picture on page 2...
 

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