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Dear EVGA,
 
I have just bought an EVGA 1080GTX and during the past few days there have been several reports regarding the VRMs blowing up due to overheat. I have not yet opened my card since I am still waiting for the rest of the parts the be imported from the UK. As a concerned consumer, I would like to return my cards to the shop and get a credit note.
 
I would like you to reply on this thread should my local agent not accept this.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 00:37:43 (permalink)
    The EU gives you a lot of flexibility to return and rights of compensation.  I advise if you are concerned to return and to buy another brand.  EVGA has not done a recall, not sure why, nor have they put a official response on a sticky on the forums which people can easily find.  Personally, I did not buy evga this time around because of this.

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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 00:53:25 (permalink)
    I've been using EVGA for a long time and this incident has put me off that's why I want to change brand this time. Given the fact that the card is still sealed in the box and it has been only a week since purchase I shouldn't find any problems returning it but you never know.
     
    I find it terribly wrong that EVGA has not posted any press release or a recall on these cards since they can seriously damage other system components.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 01:06:57 (permalink)
    I think EVGA should do a recall. I'm worried about my 1080 FTW tbh.  
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 02:41:10 (permalink)
    I use 2 1070 FTWs for almost 2 months and I do not have any issues. In which conditions are the cards exploding? (max 122% voltage on slave BIOS?)

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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 02:46:13 (permalink)
    There is not a single report of VRMs overheating with the FTW series. 
    There are reports of faulty VRMs which EVGA has confirmed and given an estimate about 3%-4% of the cards being affected BEFORE 30/8.
     
    What to do?
     
    On the backside of your EVGA box, there is the serial number. Use this serial number to check via the GuestRMA http://www.evga.com/support/guestregister.asp when your card has been produced and delivered to the reseller.
    If before 30/8 there is a 4% chance you have a card with a faulty VRM.
    If after, there is no chance.
     
    So, you can decide if you want to take the risk or not. A faulty VRM does not mean it WILL combust. There is the much bigger chance it will simply not work properly and give you black screens and freezes with the GPU fans spinning up to 100%
     
    This is NOT related to the overheat spin that 2nd class pc media outlets put on the skewed findings of ONE review, which is already called false by EVGA, not condoned by Nvidia because of wrong testing conditions and critizised by individuals with at least basic knowledge in temperature measurements to be inaccurate. Again: There is not a single report publicly available that can pinpoint any issue of the FTW to overheating.
     
    Now, the thermal pads EVGA offers for free for cards not having them and are installing on new batches of these cards are to lower the VRM temperatures even further, to put your mind at ease and to be within specs comparable to other brands with VRM cooling via thermal pads. The VRM operate within spec accordingly as EVGA claims. Given that the company puts out  roughly several ten thousands of cards each fiscal year and we see maybe over a dozen issues reported here in the forum about a card being affected by the faulty VRM or some issue with the cooling (pads not touching the chips, I got you guys covered :P) is within acceptable tolerances given that brands like Asus had to pull the plug on an entire line, the Strix o80 and had issues with micron VRAM on other models.
    post edited by Angier_1985 - 2016/10/30 02:51:27
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 02:54:18 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot for all the details, because many articles I have read are misleading.
    I checked using your link and it seems that my cards have "Shipped Date:   09/05/2016".
    But I never had any black screen or problem. I guess I will continue to use them and hope nothing will happen.

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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:01:37 (permalink)
    By the way, silly question, this date format is MM/DD/YYY or DD/MM/YYYY? :D

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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:03:30 (permalink)
    MM/DD/YYYY
     
    You are fine. Enjoy your FTWs mate. You won ;D
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:08:10 (permalink)
    I just want to play it safe and return the FTW since there are reported issues and given that it's still sealed in box the agent shouldn't find any problems accepting my request according to EU laws.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:09:52 (permalink)
    Of course that is absolutely within your consumer rights. As is doing some research if your fears are justified or not. Checking the serial number is easy and fast and could put your mind at ease ;)
     
    Because besides this faulty VRM batch, the cards ARE high quality and ARE super fast.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:14:02 (permalink)
    I had a bad experience with XFX once and I don't want it to happen again so i'm considering this as prevention better than cure.
     
    I will check the serial number later tonight when i'm back home just to make sure.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:15:10 (permalink)
    You do realize that a faulty card can happen with every brand and every generation, right? Do not cave in just because you can't make sense out of other peoples chatter.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:16:57 (permalink)
    Well, you are right but when you see different posts pointing to the same direction/conclusion it's best to be prepared in my experience.
     
     
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:17:56 (permalink)
    Preparation means checking the serial number and deciding if there is a risk you want or do not want to take. You are jumping the conclusion before you have all the facts at hand, mate ;)
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 03:20:42 (permalink)
    I'll check the serials first and let you know :)
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:32:34 (permalink)
    19 september for me so I'm fine ?
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:33:19 (permalink)
    I am in no position to claim you are fine but according to EVGA every card shipped after 8/30 is not affected by this, yah.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:39:28 (permalink)
    Ok. where did you see that evga claims that ? Thanks ;)
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:40:46 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:52:08 (permalink)
    lol @ the thread title. You sure you couldn't have made it more alarming ? like "EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Creating Black Holes" 

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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:53:24 (permalink)
    Angier_1985





    Ok thanks but the black screen and the vrm overheating are the same problem in fact ?
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 04:56:14 (permalink)
    There IS no VRM overheating. No. None. Silch. Nada. Niente. Nix.
     
    There IS VRM combusting for whatever reasons not publicly made available yet. But there is no evidence this is directly related to any temperature specification or cooling solution the FTW applies. A combusting VRM is likely one being faulty. And faulty VRM have been identified and actions have been taken. You should not be affected by this issue.
     
    Please, keep in mind that we are speaking about rather complex consumer electronics. There is always a minimal chance for failures either in material or assembly.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 05:49:38 (permalink)
    Angier_1985
    I am in no position to claim you are fine but according to EVGA every card shipped after 8/30 is not affected by this, yah.





    The problem also affects vrm ftw 1070 or 1080 FTW exclusive? tambies date correction is effective for 1070 FTW?
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 07:00:08 (permalink)
    Hey,
     
    This link ain't working for me, i'm being redirected back to this page
    http://www.evga.com/support/guestregister.asp
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 07:50:44 (permalink)
    People like you are crazy. Businesses lie all the time. I mean how bad is  your memory, have you been living under a rock for the past few weeks? Samsung said that their "new" phones wouldn't explode and that's what they did! Even the replacements that were supposed to be perfect still exploded.
     
    You are obviously very, very naive. How old are you? 12? Either that, or something darker like EVGA paid you to be a shill and defend their stuff, or you are just a blind fanboy. The way you say "no overheating, zero, nada, zilch..." is absolutely nuts. Dozens of reports of cards literally sparking and exploding in cases!!!!!! If you think this is acceptable then you have lost your mind. It doesn't matter how many products are affected, the fact is the damage can be catastrophic if the PC combusts and burns a house down. We don't have to wait for that to happen to know it's a bad thing. Things burning when they're not supposed to are bad.
     
    These cards have a manufacturing defect by design. You shouldn't believe everything that EVGA, NVIDIA or sellers say. They are all in it for the money and don't care if you bust your entire PC due to their faulty product.
     
    My PC has cost me £4000 and I can say that if the graphics card failed I would sue EVGA definitely. They would not only have to pay for all new components but would also have to compensate me for the stress and inconvenience caused (and loss of earnings because I use my PC to work as well).
     
    Angier_1985
    There is not a single report of VRMs overheating with the FTW series. 
    There are reports of faulty VRMs which EVGA has confirmed and given an estimate about 3%-4% of the cards being affected BEFORE 30/8.
     
    What to do?
     
    On the backside of your EVGA box, there is the serial number. Use this serial number to check via the GuestRMA  when your card has been produced and delivered to the reseller.
    If before 30/8 there is a 4% chance you have a card with a faulty VRM.
    If after, there is no chance.
     
    So, you can decide if you want to take the risk or not. A faulty VRM does not mean it WILL combust. There is the much bigger chance it will simply not work properly and give you black screens and freezes with the GPU fans spinning up to 100%
     
    This is NOT related to the overheat spin that 2nd class pc media outlets put on the skewed findings of ONE review, which is already called false by EVGA, not condoned by Nvidia because of wrong testing conditions and critizised by individuals with at least basic knowledge in temperature measurements to be inaccurate. Again: There is not a single report publicly available that can pinpoint any issue of the FTW to overheating.
     
    Now, the thermal pads EVGA offers for free for cards not having them and are installing on new batches of these cards are to lower the VRM temperatures even further, to put your mind at ease and to be within specs comparable to other brands with VRM cooling via thermal pads. The VRM operate within spec accordingly as EVGA claims. Given that the company puts out  roughly several ten thousands of cards each fiscal year and we see maybe over a dozen issues reported here in the forum about a card being affected by the faulty VRM or some issue with the cooling (pads not touching the chips, I got you guys covered :P) is within acceptable tolerances given that brands like Asus had to pull the plug on an entire line, the Strix o80 and had issues with micron VRAM on other models.




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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 08:06:02 (permalink)
    WHALFARGOV
     
    I would like you to reply on this thread should my local agent not accept this.


     
    Welcome back to the Forum WHALFARGOV
     
    Dear WHALFARGOV.
    You now that this is an Open Forum and Not an Official EVGA Support Site.
    Being a Concerned Consumer you have not opened the Box and most likely have not registered the Card.
    Your only real option is to return the product to the place of purchases and pay whatever restocking fees they may have if any.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 08:34:25 (permalink)
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    I would like you to reply on this thread should my local agent not accept this.


     
    Welcome back to the Forum WHALFARGOV
     
    Dear WHALFARGOV.
    You now that this is an Open Forum and Not an Official EVGA Support Site.
    Being a Concerned Consumer you have not opened the Box and most likely have not registered the Card.
    Your only real option is to return the product to the place of purchases and pay whatever restocking fees they may have if any.




     
    Exactly ,the card is still sealed in box. Believe me when I say i'm truly concerned about this defect that's being reported and I won't build up a new system knowing that there is such a high chance my vga will fail on me maybe even taking other new parts as well. The safest bet is return it to the supplier.
     
    I don't believe they will ask for return fees since i'm still within the 15 day cooling period and the unit is sitting on my shelf in the factory plastic. Sorry to say, I will have to get another 1080 from another brand this time.
     
    I still own a GTX980 and a GTX580 that are flawless and still very happy with them.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 09:00:03 (permalink)
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    People like you are crazy. Businesses lie all the time. I mean how bad is  your memory, have you been living under a rock for the past few weeks? Samsung said that their "new" phones wouldn't explode and that's what they did! Even the replacements that were supposed to be perfect still exploded.
     
    You are obviously very, very naive. How old are you? 12? Either that, or something darker like EVGA paid you to be a shill and defend their stuff, or you are just a blind fanboy. The way you say "no overheating, zero, nada, zilch..." is absolutely nuts. Dozens of reports of cards literally sparking and exploding in cases!!!!!! If you think this is acceptable then you have lost your mind. It doesn't matter how many products are affected, the fact is the damage can be catastrophic if the PC combusts and burns a house down. We don't have to wait for that to happen to know it's a bad thing. Things burning when they're not supposed to are bad.
     
    These cards have a manufacturing defect by design. You shouldn't believe everything that EVGA, NVIDIA or sellers say. They are all in it for the money and don't care if you bust your entire PC due to their faulty product.
     
    My PC has cost me £4000 and I can say that if the graphics card failed I would sue EVGA definitely. They would not only have to pay for all new components but would also have to compensate me for the stress and inconvenience caused (and loss of earnings because I use my PC to work as well).
     
    Angier_1985
    There is not a single report of VRMs overheating with the FTW series. 
    There are reports of faulty VRMs which EVGA has confirmed and given an estimate about 3%-4% of the cards being affected BEFORE 30/8.
     
    What to do?
     
    On the backside of your EVGA box, there is the serial number. Use this serial number to check via the GuestRMA  when your card has been produced and delivered to the reseller.
    If before 30/8 there is a 4% chance you have a card with a faulty VRM.
    If after, there is no chance.
     
    So, you can decide if you want to take the risk or not. A faulty VRM does not mean it WILL combust. There is the much bigger chance it will simply not work properly and give you black screens and freezes with the GPU fans spinning up to 100%
     
    This is NOT related to the overheat spin that 2nd class pc media outlets put on the skewed findings of ONE review, which is already called false by EVGA, not condoned by Nvidia because of wrong testing conditions and critizised by individuals with at least basic knowledge in temperature measurements to be inaccurate. Again: There is not a single report publicly available that can pinpoint any issue of the FTW to overheating.
     
    Now, the thermal pads EVGA offers for free for cards not having them and are installing on new batches of these cards are to lower the VRM temperatures even further, to put your mind at ease and to be within specs comparable to other brands with VRM cooling via thermal pads. The VRM operate within spec accordingly as EVGA claims. Given that the company puts out  roughly several ten thousands of cards each fiscal year and we see maybe over a dozen issues reported here in the forum about a card being affected by the faulty VRM or some issue with the cooling (pads not touching the chips, I got you guys covered :P) is within acceptable tolerances given that brands like Asus had to pull the plug on an entire line, the Strix o80 and had issues with micron VRAM on other models.






    I can assure you that EVGA is not lying to any of our customers. We care very much about any concerns regarding our products, especially if there are potential safety concerns. We have the utmost respect for our customers and fans. I can also confirm that I have not issued a single warranty for a card catching fire or exploding. If this was something effecting even 1% of cards I would have personally issued several dozen RMA's for this.
     
    Please keep in mind that computer components are designed for high temperatures and high electrical current. Much of a computer is made of non-combustible materials. They are not prone to catching fire and if a flame were to start up it would die out within seconds. Typically a component would end up melting, not catching fire. In all my years of tech I have never seen a component catch fire and wipe out an entire system.
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    Re: EVGA 1080GTX FTW - VRMs Exploding 2016/10/30 09:10:54 (permalink)
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    People like you are crazy. Businesses lie all the time. I mean how bad is  your memory, have you been living under a rock for the past few weeks? Samsung said that their "new" phones wouldn't explode and that's what they did! Even the replacements that were supposed to be perfect still exploded.
     
    You are obviously very, very naive. How old are you? 12? Either that, or something darker like EVGA paid you to be a shill and defend their stuff, or you are just a blind fanboy. The way you say "no overheating, zero, nada, zilch..." is absolutely nuts. Dozens of reports of cards literally sparking and exploding in cases!!!!!! If you think this is acceptable then you have lost your mind. It doesn't matter how many products are affected, the fact is the damage can be catastrophic if the PC combusts and burns a house down. We don't have to wait for that to happen to know it's a bad thing. Things burning when they're not supposed to are bad.
     
    These cards have a manufacturing defect by design. You shouldn't believe everything that EVGA, NVIDIA or sellers say. They are all in it for the money and don't care if you bust your entire PC due to their faulty product.
     
    My PC has cost me £4000 and I can say that if the graphics card failed I would sue EVGA definitely. They would not only have to pay for all new components but would also have to compensate me for the stress and inconvenience caused (and loss of earnings because I use my PC to work as well).
     
    Angier_1985
    There is not a single report of VRMs overheating with the FTW series. 
    There are reports of faulty VRMs which EVGA has confirmed and given an estimate about 3%-4% of the cards being affected BEFORE 30/8.
     
    What to do?
     
    On the backside of your EVGA box, there is the serial number. Use this serial number to check via the GuestRMA  when your card has been produced and delivered to the reseller.
    If before 30/8 there is a 4% chance you have a card with a faulty VRM.
    If after, there is no chance.
     
    So, you can decide if you want to take the risk or not. A faulty VRM does not mean it WILL combust. There is the much bigger chance it will simply not work properly and give you black screens and freezes with the GPU fans spinning up to 100%
     
    This is NOT related to the overheat spin that 2nd class pc media outlets put on the skewed findings of ONE review, which is already called false by EVGA, not condoned by Nvidia because of wrong testing conditions and critizised by individuals with at least basic knowledge in temperature measurements to be inaccurate. Again: There is not a single report publicly available that can pinpoint any issue of the FTW to overheating.
     
    Now, the thermal pads EVGA offers for free for cards not having them and are installing on new batches of these cards are to lower the VRM temperatures even further, to put your mind at ease and to be within specs comparable to other brands with VRM cooling via thermal pads. The VRM operate within spec accordingly as EVGA claims. Given that the company puts out  roughly several ten thousands of cards each fiscal year and we see maybe over a dozen issues reported here in the forum about a card being affected by the faulty VRM or some issue with the cooling (pads not touching the chips, I got you guys covered :P) is within acceptable tolerances given that brands like Asus had to pull the plug on an entire line, the Strix o80 and had issues with micron VRAM on other models.








     
    Im glad you are not buying into all the 'tech support' 'moderators' or just plain mis informed people around here.  Do what you need to do to protect yourself.  My card is in RMA right now due to this issue.  Ive always trusted EVGA but all this shady hiding of facts etc is really making them look terrible.  For shame to all of them.
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