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As the title, have a replacement card on the way with the bios & thermal pad fix, just wanted to ensure the thermal pads for the Vram are now officially brought to the attention of EVGA and being remedied with thicker ones too?
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/08 15:35:05
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I did RMA on website on Nov 1, and got my card last night. I did not disassemble the card and take off plate over the vram, but I did look closely in between with a flashlight and it appeared all the the VRAM was touching the pads. About the Vbios, personally on my old card I needed a custom fan curve to raise speed to balance temps vs noise. On new Vbios I'm using a curve to lower the fan speeds due to noise. Despite lowering the speeds I think my temps are still lower, but I'm not certain due to air temp differences. As a bonus, I got lucky and my card was brand new sealed in box. It seems to either overclock the same or slightly better, I'm not sure yet.
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carb1de
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 01:01:25
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Could a mod/EVGA comment? I'm not sure whether the VRAM thermal pads have been revised in thickness officially, I really don't want to have to crack open my second card!
be nice to actually get a brand new one seeing as we bought brand new!
As per the other thread I started regarding core temps and power target % it seems many are running very aggressive curves - 70% fan speed at 60°C for example. Maybe we need to come around to the idea that the card is going to be very loud on load to ensure it doesn't burn up.
I for one have core temp of approx. 82°C with 90% power target playing 'Victor Vran' in a bitfenix prodigy with a 230mm fan at the front, 120mm rear, 2x 120mm on top on a H100i
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 05:43:33
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60% of fan, 55 degres with BF1, dont need pads 
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 05:53:37
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Considering no one's actually got ram pads yet, pretty doubtful.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 06:49:26
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ilyama
60% of fan, 55 degres with BF1, dont need pads
You cant read the temps of the VRAM or VRMs. Your GPU temps are irrelevant.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 07:56:36
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I know but lower the temps of the gpu are, lower the VRM will be, I think it's logic...
the 106 degres tomshardware test was with a 75 degres gpu if I remember well, I know I can make conclusion with that but I'm sure I can have 50 degres between gpu and vrm...
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 09:33:36
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I know but lower the temps of the gpu are, lower the VRM will be, I think it's logic...
the 106 degres tomshardware test was with a 75 degres gpu if I remember well, I know I can make conclusion with that but I'm sure I can have 50 degres between gpu and vrm...
Lol, thats not how it works lol
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 10:38:16
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So explain me ;) With the vbios it makes 95 degres instead of 107 degres... I have a more agressive fan curve than the vbios... so I must have something like 90 degres for my vrm. And I'm talking here about furmark !!! I dont benchmark, dont overclock, dont use other applications than games... Explain me where I'm wrong here, surious question ;) For me here the situation is a problem for those who -overclock -have a bad airflow -want a very quiet computer -both or more in the same time... I dont care about silence, my computer is not silent at all, so I have a good airflow for my CPU I dont overclock and I'm always in a cool room. BUT the situation is bad, I agree on that, I just think that for my utilisation, it will not be a problem at all !
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 11:40:40
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As a bonus, I got lucky and my card was brand new sealed in box. It seems to either overclock the same or slightly better, I'm not sure yet.
Awesome! The retail packaging and the whole shebang? If so, what exactly would you be sending back? Would it be your old card + box papers or just the old card?
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 12:40:32
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Everyone need to do the thermal pad fix. There is no questioning this at this point.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 14:11:50
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ilyama
60% of fan, 55 degres with BF1, dont need pads
You cant read the temps of the VRAM or VRMs. Your GPU temps are irrelevant.
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ilyama
I know but lower the temps of the gpu are, lower the VRM will be, I think it's logic...
the 106 degres tomshardware test was with a 75 degres gpu if I remember well, I know I can make conclusion with that but I'm sure I can have 50 degres between gpu and vrm...
Lol, thats not how it works lol
This is not so, there have been a few tests, but this link in particular: http://imgur.com/a/D268D shows the correlation between fan% core temp and VRM temp. despite whether we think it's a good fix or not, simply upping the fan% with the bios fix does lower VRM temps (if at the detriment to acoustics). Of interest to me is the 5th image running under Furmark. Whilst i do not use it, i do see those temps and fan% and power target as high as 90%. So assuming a rough estimation of +15°C when I'm running at 82°C core, VRM could be ~97°C with those 3 memory modules not far behind at all :-s
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/09 19:55:55
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Caanon
As a bonus, I got lucky and my card was brand new sealed in box. It seems to either overclock the same or slightly better, I'm not sure yet.
Awesome! The retail packaging and the whole shebang? If so, what exactly would you be sending back? Would it be your old card + box papers or just the old card?
Got back full retail box and accessories(wire adapters, poster, stickers etc) I still had my original box in the closet so I put the old card in there and repacked it in the box they sent the replacement in.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 07:27:56
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pawelblyskal
ilyama
60% of fan, 55 degres with BF1, dont need pads
You cant read the temps of the VRAM or VRMs. Your GPU temps are irrelevant.
pawelblyskal
ilyama
I know but lower the temps of the gpu are, lower the VRM will be, I think it's logic...
the 106 degres tomshardware test was with a 75 degres gpu if I remember well, I know I can make conclusion with that but I'm sure I can have 50 degres between gpu and vrm...
Lol, thats not how it works lol
This is not so, there have been a few tests, but this link in particular: http://imgur.com/a/D268D
shows the correlation between fan% core temp and VRM temp. despite whether we think it's a good fix or not, simply upping the fan% with the bios fix does lower VRM temps (if at the detriment to acoustics).
Of interest to me is the 5th image running under Furmark. Whilst i do not use it, i do see those temps and fan% and power target as high as 90%. So assuming a rough estimation of +15°C when I'm running at 82°C core, VRM could be ~97°C with those 3 memory modules not far behind at all :-s
When I see that, it makes me thing i'm not wrong at all...
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 08:26:00
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When I see that, it makes me thing i'm not wrong at all...
Your're not. Regardless of how well (or not for the acx 3.0 :-p) the cooler works, all items - core, VRAM, VRM etc. are cooled to some degree, just at different ratios. As per the link, playing BF1 with 90% fan and 55% TDP , VRM was 8°C hotter than core (53°C). Furmark 90% fan and 100% TDP, VRM is 17°C hotter than core (71°C) 55% TDP, VRM is approx 115% core temp 100% TDP VRM is approx. 124% core temp Makes sense I guess that the efficiency is dropping as VRM temp is increasing...
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 09:25:38
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So with a GPU at 55 degres max...
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 10:34:32
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Yes, shipping cards have new memory thermal pads as well.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 12:21:46
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Stick to Founder Edition 1080/1070 these cards have none of the issues I have read about in here. My card is silent, havent seen it go above 64C in any benchmark or intensive game!
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 12:43:26
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WIf the gpu temps are not irrelevant then why the bios update to adjust the fan speed? Why just do the thurmal pads only and call it a day. That wold help people from complaining about double the noise. pawelblyskal
ilyama
60% of fan, 55 degres with BF1, dont need pads
You cant read the temps of the VRAM or VRMs. Your GPU temps are irrelevant.
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/10 13:03:06
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Stick to Founder Edition 1080/1070 these cards have none of the issues I have read about in here. My card is silent, havent seen it go above 64C in any benchmark or intensive game!
quiet you, just because your card will reach the clocks of the FTW, not melt, be quieter and exhaust all hot air out the backplate... doesn't have flashy lights no one can see does it?! :-D
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Re: Do new cards shipped after 1st Nov have the VRAM thermal pad thickness fix?
2016/11/11 06:07:52
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ilyama
When I see that, it makes me thing i'm not wrong at all...
Your're not. Regardless of how well (or not for the acx 3.0 :-p) the cooler works, all items - core, VRAM, VRM etc. are cooled to some degree, just at different ratios. As per the link, playing BF1 with 90% fan and 55% TDP , VRM was 8°C hotter than core (53°C). Furmark 90% fan and 100% TDP, VRM is 17°C hotter than core (71°C)
55% TDP, VRM is approx 115% core temp
100% TDP VRM is approx. 124% core temp
Makes sense I guess that the efficiency is dropping as VRM temp is increasing...
It's funny, when we talk about facts, tests, all the people who claims that all cards needs thermal pads and that all cards will burn our houses dont have nothing... they just stop talking...
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