diplomacy

Just did a little napkin math, based on what i've been doing in terms of PPD, I'll break 1 million points roughly 10 days into the contest, 2 million points on day 22 and I'll be in the top 1000 folders just before the end of the contest...

0.o

Go for it   Any excess you can churn out will help to offset what I think will be a shortage on my end.  Sorry all, but, partly some bad luck and partly due to not being able to pull those smaller GPU WUs.
 
Anyone have any idea at what interval the stats are updated?

I miss bigadvs

Xavier Zepherious

Im running full out - got a second SMP rig up - what little it produces by comparison

anyways just do the best you can do - lets see if we can squeeze in the top four
at least we can try to make it into the competitive pool

Thats what I'm hoping for.  I got an another rig that can put out as much PPD as Quartz, but I got to be careful on how I treat it.  It will most likely be folding SMP for another 20k PPD.

415krunch

Fast and Furious drive by and image drop! Keep em crunchin!

you got some mad skills son! what can yu come up with for the fanatics?

yah, man. I would love to sport a sig made by you! doesnt look like we have any in team artists:)

Gratuitous


you got some mad skills son! what can yu come up with for the fanatics?

Here is one!
 

 
 
 
Muhahahahahaha

Well good news Guys..
Ive stabilized my OC on my new rig...this resulted boosted PPD on it in the process even more (and Im running cooler - lower Vcc now)
 
it was PO'ing me for a few days - kept trying to tweak it - but it always remain flaky
 
Vcc wasn't the problem..I had to set Vcc PLL and IMC higher(very slight for both)
Im even tempted to adjust my PCH voltage
 
so the new rig with OC got about a 4K bump now
almost tempted to push it higher now
 
also helped to have an OC guide for my Motherboard on hand from another forum (still needs more defined info on it tho)
 
anyways I was PM by Troy 
How does everyone feel about the formula used to calculate points and deal with overproduction
 
give me thoughts.
stronger ,weaker,same, or no hands barred (open season)
 
I have my own feelings..seeing the wide point lead in the teams
if that's the case the race is over already - it suppose to be competitive
the only way I see it is some re-balance (Im for stronger - by the looks of it)
 
how about a suggestion everyone qualifies for first 2 weeks - then get placed into teams after that
that way people that under estimated would have a fixed PPD and troy could more fairly balance/select teams
 
don't be shy now - input is greatly encouraged - everyone has a say 
  
 
 
 
 

I haven't seen it. 
there are still workn on it - and want to know by asking us how to proceed...
NUMBER 5 " JOHNNY 5" want MORE INPUT
 
right now - it's not even close 
one of the other threads covers it more 
  staypuft -"It looks like the math comes out so your points are truncated ~1.375 X estimate"
 
it shouldn't kick in if the team production is below it's projected
 
 

to give you an idea of the numbers, in the real world, i've done a couple of samples.
 
with just the change i mentioned to the formula and no other tweaks,
Mads Maniacs would drop to 2nd with 1,298.8 (roughly 5036)
Protien prophets would take 1st with 1333 <--- losing only a single 1ppd (roughly 5172)
team in@nity would fall to 6th place with 1,172  (roughly 4,547)
Our points would be unchanged at 1219 putting us around 5th  1219(roughly 4,729)

well, there you go... all is lost, thanks punchy

diplomacy

Xavier Zepherious
anyways I was PM by Troy 
How does everyone feel about the formula used to calculate points and deal with overproduction

give me thoughts.
stronger ,weaker,same, or no hands barred (open season)
I have my own feelings..seeing the wide point lead in the teams
if that's the case the race is over already - it suppose to be competitive
the only way I see it is some re-balance (Im for stronger - by the looks of it)

i'm strongly in favor of something that holds individuals back from running away with this. it has been clear for a while that team ins@nity has 1 member who has exceeded his estimates by 170 Cppd. as a whole team, we have not managed to exceed our estimates by so much, and we aren't slacking either. 12 of our 15 players are exceeding our projections and to add insult to injury, most of those points, while scientifically valid, are set it and forget it HPCS.  going over the other teams several individuals are really dominating the system by producing 30,40,50,60,70 Cppd alone in excess of the point at which the teams were balanced. I think in addition to the scalar system I would like to see a firm limit of +30 Cppd per person (which in theory gives 37.5% slack per team). this would allow a substantial impact of the contest by single individuals and also give more credit to the smaller producers on the teams; our 99%!

So, I can already hear the screams of protest. we can't use a hard cutoff, it will destroy the incentive to overproduce. fine. adjust the scaler to center on that 30 ppd number instead of the 45% number. done.

but mixed into that whole thing is a faulty premise. HPCS is  going to end(or so i'm told) on the 7th. which means that roughly 1,200 Cppd, an entire team's worth, will vanish overnight. from what I can tell, our team is VERY HPCS light.  this means a couple of things. 1) it is NOT over. and 2) a lot of those overproduces will see a fall in ppd.

 
Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, this suggestion is incredibly biased against large folders.  "Hey, you signed up for 500 PPD? - Congrats you have 6% leeway!  Oh?  You signed up for 1 PPD?  you have 3000% leeway - enjoy!"

RHMash

I haven't been around that much, haven't paid much attention to the formula thing.... I have a feeling I'll be affected more than anyone else here on it, my two hpcs folders didn't -oneunit correctly as planned and I wasn't counting them for this.... And I was way off on wu estimates.... As far as over production, I think it should have diminished returns based on a percentage over.... But how are wu overages figured? Maybe instead of doing everything by the individual, doing it based on the team as a whole would be better.... Instead of reducing everyone's points as they go over, keep them as they are, show the untouched team points and then calculate the team totals?

 
8-way tie?

or you could just do a qualifier round - everyone folds all -out as individuals(1 week) - and then place them into teams (1week)
then playoffs
 (same thing i pm troy hours ago)
 
you get a better picture as to their PPD - no estimates needed
(and it shouldn't be a guarantee that members stay with teams for the first week either - troy could still do re-shuffling)
 
another thing - don't count on HPCS...word is BETA maybe ending real soon
they are doing parties and doing give-aways before launch

 

owning you one fold at a time here
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1484776

Xavier Zepherious

or you could just do a qualifier round:
everyone folds all out as individuals(1 week)
and then place them into teams (1week)
then playoffs (2 weeks)
(same thing i pm troy hours ago)

you get a better picture as to their PPD - no estimates needed
(and it shouldn't be a guarantee that members stay with teams for the first week either - troy could still do re-shuffling)

 
i don't want to sound like i'm upset, with my team. Crunching Tigers Is awesome and I'm glad to be here! at least WE were honest. 0.o that said, if you want a competition, this would get us one. i just don't like how the teams were balanced so well, untill about a dozen long-time folders who imo should have known better "accidentally" beat their estimates by 30-80%. sandbaggers or not, they were negligent. 0.02