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What are the normal ranges for temps in idle and load(linpak,prime,ect.) in a desent air cooling situation? What are the values people see that would warn me that my cooling soln is insufficent? I have tried looking around but honeslty people keep dancing around all sorts of values some seem like they maybe inflating the values making the temps underload seem lower then possible.. i would prefer info from a community i have grown to trust over the past couple days. Thanks alot again! Mathieas
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 15:31:13
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Mathieas What are the normal ranges for temps in idle and load(linpak,prime,ect.) in a desent air cooling situation? What are the values people see that would warn me that my cooling soln is insufficent? I have tried looking around but honeslty people keep dancing around all sorts of values some seem like they maybe inflating the values making the temps underload seem lower then possible.. i would prefer info from a community i have grown to trust over the past couple days. Thanks alot again! Mathieas It runs cooler than a 920/930 on a 4.0ghz OC and probably shouldn't even be reaching 60c under full load on chip, but of course that depends on the cooler and ambient temps, i don't own a 980x but i see that all 980x run cooler than 920/930 chips
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 15:45:07
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Well I have a 980X on a Corsair H70 with Feser / Noiseblocker Triebwerk fans x2 in a push pull. I have had temps as low in the Idle range here - with 100% fan speed. pic Full 100% load with Prime95 and LinX just breaking 60c 50% fan speed. pic pic2 EVGA Classified 760 980X 4Ghz + Corsair H70 Corsair cas6 12gb 1600Mhz 6-6-6-16-1T
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 15:58:13
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My current system Idle state is here - fan speed 30/40% range. pic As you can see Im idling and I still have 4.5G's of memory string still up on my work environment. As well as internet browsing at current. Im using the New Lian Li fan controller. here First set of two fan knobs are controlling Corsair flow fans on the Memory and the North Bridge. Second set of two fan knobs are controlling the H70 fans Third set of two fan knobs are controlling the top panel exhaust fans. This going from left to right. This will show where I have the H70 fans rated at from 100% max air flow. pic Im also using the 1800RPM Feser / Noiseblocker Triebwerk fans. Thus giving me more room up and down over the 1200RPM version. and this is running my temps at current.
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 16:34:01
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I recently built a system as follows: 980x Gulftown CPU. The 980x is the first "big" i7 from their 32nm process. FTW3 motherboard Stock Intel fan (the gulftown fan is vastly improved from the older ones) Coolermaster Cosmos case I removed the Coolermaster case fans and replaced them with Scythe 1600 RPM fans Corsair 850HX PS Corsair dominator RAM EVGA 460 video card I downloaded Prime95 to see how well the stock fan worked with the 980x. No overclock, just the "advertised" 3333 MHz. ELEET was reading CPU 31 degrees C, VREG 49C, System 28, and the cores range from 40 to 47 C.
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 16:34:17
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The magic # that will kill any I-7 chip is 112 ( the temp at witch the silicone used to manufacture the chip Melts. the chips shut down should prevent you from ever seeing this. the magic # that the chip shuts down to protect itself (TJ max) is 100, the magic # that most use to limit any core during a OC is 85. the # that you should expect cores to reach with a good cooler solution is 10-15 above system temp ( the # that slows on the LCD, which is 5-10 degrees above ambient. ambient is determined by your envirmont, and your air conditioning, although your cooler will play a big part of how you control temps, air flow, and air exchange will also play a key factor. if you have any doubt, as to whither your cooling is sufecent, removing the side cover and placing a box fan in the vecenaty, will give you a good idea if your problem is air flow. these #'s are pushing a fairly agresive OC with good cooling, subtract 10-15 degrees for stock, but expect some elevation using lower quality coolers. ( these temps ar Linx generated at 100% , which is what you want to calculate for, you will not see these temps the majority of the time, but building for them protects yourself. )
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 16:42:24
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KMoore makes a good point: The ambient temperature in your computer room will affect your outcome. If you are in a non-A/C home on a hot summer day, expect any cooling solution to be hotter than the same rig on a cool day.
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 20:30:51
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KMoore4318 The magic # that will kill any I-7 chip is 112 ( the temp at witch the silicone used to manufacture the chip Melts. the chips shut down should prevent you from ever seeing this. the magic # that the chip shuts down to protect itself (TJ max) is 100, the magic # that most use to limit any core during a OC is 85. the # that you should expect cores to reach with a good cooler solution is 10-15 above system temp ( the # that slows on the LCD, which is 5-10 degrees above ambient. ambient is determined by your envirmont, and your air conditioning, although your cooler will play a big part of how you control temps, air flow, and air exchange will also play a key factor. if you have any doubt, as to whither your cooling is sufecent, removing the side cover and placing a box fan in the vecenaty, will give you a good idea if your problem is air flow. these #'s are pushing a fairly agresive OC with good cooling, subtract 10-15 degrees for stock, but expect some elevation using lower quality coolers. ( these temps ar Linx generated at 100% , which is what you want to calculate for, you will not see these temps the majority of the time, but building for them protects yourself. ) Pssst...silicon melts at over 10 times that temp...some ~1400C. Maximum junction temperatures vary by material with the upper thermal design limits exceeding 200C. But anyway...staying under 85C during LinX stress testing is a reasonable rule of thumb for processor longevity. As to the OP's post, my idle temps at a 72F ambient range from 24 to 36 on my cores. A full 20 pass at 4.5ghz with HT on IBT run using a 25000 problem size will peak around 85C on the hottest core using an H50 in push pull exhaust.
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/13 23:38:57
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KMoore4318 Well according to http://download.intel.com/design/processor/designex/322167.pdf 100 is the temp that catastrophic falure can occure, and 112 is the tempature that it WILL occure. due to sillicone break down. No that isn't correct at all and your link does say that either. Perhaps you're confusing Tcase temps with core temps. And again it isn't a break down in the SILICON but the features etched and doped on the silicon. It wasn't magic I did for a living...
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/14 03:16:02
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HeavyHemi KMoore4318 Well according to http://download.intel.com/design/processor/designex/322167.pdf 100 is the temp that catastrophic falure can occure, and 112 is the tempature that it WILL occure. due to sillicone break down. No that isn't correct at all and your link does say that either. Perhaps you're confusing Tcase temps with core temps. And again it isn't a break down in the SILICON but the features etched and doped on the silicon. It wasn't magic I did for a living... Well than I stand correct, but regardless of wither it breaks the silicon, or just the information written on the silicon, BROKE is BROKE, Just as DEAD is DEAD. and I know I read that # on a Intel white paper document. while reserching shut down temps, and timeing. if I can find it agin I will link it, but the main point, is do not hit that # or you will be replacing your chip. Ok here is what I found the 112 # was indeed T case temp which is less than core temp, at a T case of 112, both condition T1 and T2 have been meet, only a catastrophic falure would cause this temp. this temp would be the result of aproxamently 135 on a core. shut down should occure withen 2ms of thermaltrip. but at these temps you should not expect the CPU to function normaly, even after returning to normal temp. ( the damage has been done ) Still have not found the exact link, but have found a few links describinh the condition. but 100 is still Tjmax, and the processor should take steps there to protect itself.
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Re:Corei7 980x idle and load temp ranges?
2010/09/14 14:22:14
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Good commentary! What computer case are using ozgod? Thank you KMoore4318 for your mention of the 980x PDF. I downloaded it a few weeks ago, but just skimmed through its pages. I going to take another look at it. And HeavyHemi: I am paying more attention to ambient temperature and "staying under 85C" partly because of the $999.99 I paid for the 980x. I am a oc novice who enjoys the forums.
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