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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:27:52
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If there is no bug with LinX then why is it when you run LinX and you notice the timer freezes does LinX continue to run with full 100% load? I have observered this a number of times and when it does happen, the time duration for the frozen clock is not compensated for and LinX shows a shorter time yet the GFLOPS and CPU speed do not corilate. Also even tho it indicates 100% load, actually only threads 0,1,2,3 are fully loaded while 4,5,6,7 drop in load levels indicated by lower heat produced by cores 2 and 3. Task manager shows 100% on all threads but the level of stress within 100% is not as significant. Much like that or Prime95 is in Blend. Much lower heat produced but still indicates 100% on all threads.
I have never had the timer freeze but I have noticed the timer seems to be wrong. Edit: I also set my voltages in bios and Bclk with e-leet. Heck I have not even tried to boot above 221Bclk in like forever.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:33:44
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DrNipThe inconsistencies I had weren't of it pausing or anything like that but different gflops and times. Now mind you I would start a run and let it run a few times and then stop it. Then restart it with a totally different gflop and run time. Nothing changed, nothing running, just start, stop and then start, stop again. Then I would start it again for it to be running the same as it was two runs before. I'm talking a difference of 9 gflops and pretty big time difference. It has been documented here in the thread that you can not restart LinX without some serious probability of an inconsistent result. That is both simply stopping and starting, and restarting after an error, which, generally speaking, is a way to "cheat" the system.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:42:10
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I think it might or might not be a good stability test... I like the heat it creates.... but the bugs or a bit too much... it makes it very difficult to say who really has the best highest stable run. Where do you draw the line for time and GFlops??? It is just too variable.
I don't think there is a problem with the "HT Off" runs... but I guess we will see when more runs come in from the members here.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:42:35
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Haha I didn't know stopping the test and restarting it was a from of cheating! Guess I know now. Also didn't know that simply stopping the test and then restarting it would throw an inconsistency. I'm glad other stress test and benches aren't like this. At least none of them I know are.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:44:56
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GUESS WHAT?!?!?! THE LIST IS UPDATED!!!!
Now I have a few things that I need to address to everyone that I found while going through all the new posts...I had to start back on page 6 BTW to get caught up!!!
1. FIRST OFF, CONGRATS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PARTICIPATED AND UPDATED THEIR NUMBERS! THE LIST IS HUGE NOW KEEP IT UP!!!
2. This is very important...From now on, when we post our new numbers and such, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do NOT just post the screenie and nothing else. It needs to look like this WITH the screenie:
Core i7 920 D0 or C0 Batch #: ? CPU clocked at: 000.0 MHz Voltage: Idle temps: Load temps: I say this because alot of you just post the screenies and I have to go to the screenie and fill out all the information myself. Sounds lazy, but it saves me alot of time when updating the list. So please take care of that from now on thanks everyone. 3. We need to address this...I have seen alot of the XEON CPU's being posted up such as overclockers and trs32505. I want to know what you guys wish to do about this...Remember, this is the i7 stability club. So what are we going to do about those posts? Granted yall are getting GREAT results off of it. Any ideas from anyone as how to deal with this. Post them and we will discuss. Thanks! So thats it everyone!!!! Please post the results like I showed in the beginning, and discuss what to do about the Xeon...Let me know if anyone was skipped or see's an issue. Im a tad hungover from partying last night and this took me a good while to update. Take care everyone!!!! And again, CONGRATS!!! SimC
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:48:29
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Create a section for Xeon's. Seems simple enough.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:49:59
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The xeons are the same except they can use ECC memory.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 14:58:32
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True they are pretty much the same but different name. I say create a separate class or just put them with the i7's. Makes no difference.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 15:05:06
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 15:15:24
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When noting a Xeon is being used, those that are of the 3500 series are basically the same as the i7s. Xeons of the 5500 class have an extra QPI link for use with multi cpu configurations. They also have a higher GT level. 3500s have a 4.8 like that of the i7s and 6.4 like the i7 Extremes. 5500s have 4.8 like i7s but only on their lowest range cpus. 5530s upto 5550 are 5.86 GTs and 5560-5590s are 6.4. This makes a big differenc overall as to the amount of data transfered over the QPI which allows for a higher of gflops processed.
To offset these (5500s) entries, simply place them into their own catagory. Overall tho, Xeons are still Nelhalems.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 15:19:53
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Alrighty...well if it doesn't bother yall then I can either make it a separate list or I can just add them onto the i7 list...which ever yall prefer
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 15:41:09
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2009/12/09 15:49:27
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I would bet you did not pay 200.00 for that 3500  j/k
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 15:59:42
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I would bet you did not pay 200.00 for that 3500 j/k
Nope. Paid $300 from the EGG back in May.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 16:04:48
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expedision
I would bet you did not pay 200.00 for that 3500 j/k
Nope. Paid $300 from the EGG back in May.
Same price i paid for my 920 the first day of release. Mine is not a micro center 199.00 I7 :)
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 16:37:29
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Is is nice seeing the Xeon Nelhalems' performance in the list. I was actually going to get one since they are binned higher than the i7, but I screwed up and got the 920, but I'm glad I did. They seem to struggle about the same way we of the i7 ilk do when trying to OC.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 17:08:55
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Just to add to the discussion of GFlops, I've noticed that by just adding VCore, GFlops increase. Normally, we use the least amount of voltage needed for a stable overclock, but after what I just saw, that's not always the best way for performance.
Case and point:
I'm testing a 34x multi right now, and I'm stable with a VCore of 1.525v which nets a GFlop average of 60.
Well, after slowly dropping Vcore to reduce temps, I got it down to 1.45v stable, but GFlops dropped down to an average of between 57 and 58.
One other thing I noticed.
When using particular overclock, and increase nothing but uncore frequency, I am seeing an increase in performance. Personally, since I'm using a 975, I don't need much bclck. The most I ever use is 145, and have always used whatever the minimum uncore frequency is to support my requested memory frequency (at least double). Well, now that I've bumped the uncore frequency up a bit, I am seeing more GFlops, but this also requires more voltage, which then increases heat.
I can certainly see where using more than the minimum voltage required to be stable can benefit you performance wise.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 17:43:13
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I dunno of any rocking the 55xx series. Only 35xx's. That's not to say there isn't anybody out there but the majority are 35xx's so just stick em with the i7's.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 18:18:22
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@jdookie I get 57+ gflops @ 4357Mhz with ht and 1.24Vcore. You will get a .50 increase in gflops for every increase in uncore frequency.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 18:24:46
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I dunno of any rocking the 55xx series. Only 35xx's. That's not to say there isn't anybody out there but the majority are 35xx's so just stick em with the i7's.
I'll be posting some results from my 5530 that should be at my door tomorrow.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 18:42:57
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@jdookie I get 57+ gflops @ 4357Mhz with ht and 1.24Vcore. You will get a .50 increase in gflops for every increase in uncore frequency.
That's good to know. As of right now, I'm getting 58.8 GFlops from 4500MHz, but I have to use 1.48Vcore to do it. When increasing uncore frequency, which I am at 29x right now, what voltage should generally be increased, VTT or Vcore?
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 19:45:07
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 19:54:38
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very nice, made it in the club with the first post, welcome to the forums :D
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/09 21:32:23
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DrNipThe inconsistencies I had weren't of it pausing or anything like that but different gflops and times. Now mind you I would start a run and let it run a few times and then stop it. Then restart it with a totally different gflop and run time. Nothing changed, nothing running, just start, stop and then start, stop again. Then I would start it again for it to be running the same as it was two runs before. I'm talking a difference of 9 gflops and pretty big time difference. It has been documented here in the thread that you can not restart LinX without some serious probability of an inconsistent result. That is both simply stopping and starting, and restarting after an error, which, generally speaking, is a way to "cheat" the system.
I think this has something to do with Windows memory management. I noticed that when I run MemtestHCI and I use all of the DRAM (98%-99% usage) after stopping the test the system is terribly slow and I always have to reboot it when I want to do any work, despite the fact that all of the used DRAM was successfully released after the run was finished. I think this is the same thing that happens to LinX when using a lot of DRAM. I noticed this in all flavors of Vista and Windows 7.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/10 01:34:02
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Ok all of you LinPack fans... mind explaining this one???  Completely stock settings... absolutley no overclock... 10*c chilled water coolant and it says I have a cooling porblem? ROFL!!! It would seem that all talk about LinPack not working with HT is true.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/10 03:25:01
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@jdookie I get 57+ gflops @ 4357Mhz with ht and 1.24Vcore. You will get a .50 increase in gflops for every increase in uncore frequency.
That's good to know. As of right now, I'm getting 58.8 GFlops from 4500MHz, but I have to use 1.48Vcore to do it. When increasing uncore frequency, which I am at 29x right now, what voltage should generally be increased, VTT or Vcore?
Qpi PLL Vcore and VTT.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/10 15:56:14
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Reconfigured my overclock with more emphasis on BCLK instead of Multi, which gave me a bit more performance on the cpu end of things. Ended up bumping the clocks up a bit too while I was at it, but I think this is the end of the road for me because load temps are higher than where I'd like them to be. This will definitely be my benching overclock only. Core i7 (975 EE) Batch# 3910A348 CPU clocked at 4524.7 MHz Voltage: 1.517 Idle temps: 37,34,37,34 Load temps: 88,84,83,79 
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2009/12/10 16:18:40
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation*
2009/12/10 16:23:49
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Very nice run jdookie !
Thank you! Now I need to work on tweaking this clock. I'm still using the bare minimum uncore frequency, so if I can figure out how to start increasing that without increasing temps, I think I can get more performance out of it. As of right now, I'm using a QPI PLL VCore of 1.40, and VTT of +250. Do you think if I go up on either of these I might be able to decrease Vcore at all??
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2009/12/10 16:31:04
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It all depends on your cpu. Keeping your ram speed down will help (2:8) and tighter timings.
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