*Club i7 Stability Continuation*

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 03:15:21 (permalink)
i may have to put forth more effort in trying to raise my score...lol

people are starting to catch me now...lol

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 03:21:15 (permalink)
@ awalleyeguy... Your Vcore is 1.65v?  How did you get those temps with 45*f room temps?
 
BTW... that is one sweet case you have there... how many radiators could you put in that if you wanted to max it out?  I think that would be nice for my TEC water chillers which need a lot of heat removal for the hotsides of the TECs!
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 03:33:20 (permalink)
that ambient temp is like gold apparently!!!..to bad my room is about 100 f right now...lol

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 03:36:27 (permalink)
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that ambient temp is like gold apparently!!!..to bad my room is about 100 f right now...lol


I think Elvis is in the room.. not next door.. LOL!

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 03:49:05 (permalink)
well...i had to pick my jaw up off the floor!
but i think i can start running a bit higher..ill have to give it a try later today.

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 05:02:09 (permalink)
That is one cold arse room.  About 7*C.  I had my chip, of the same batch, running 4.62 ghz but gave up as it kept shutting down half way thru the test as I was only running 1.38-1.4v to it.  My ambient temps were about 0*C.  Could have gave it more volts but ran out of time.  Going to have to get back at it I see as I am liking what you have going on.  I believe the B027's are the best 920's out there with the B026's coming in a tight 2nd place.  Either way they are both great batches.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 09:16:55 (permalink)
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 I believe the B027's are the best 920's out there with the B026's coming in a tight 2nd place.  Either way they are both great batches.

 
+1... they are know to be quite amazing!!!
 
 
I have personally tested over 10 different batches of i7's... the 3849B202's, 3849B018's and some 3845Bxxx's were the best ones I ever had... I never was able to get my hands on a 3845B026 or 3845B027 though I am still trying... the 6 cores will probably be out before that happens and then these chips will loose there appeal to me I'm sure.   I can hardly wait for the new Xeon's!

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 09:39:41 (permalink)
Personally, I always said his chip is pure gold.  It's been proven again here.  Raja tested this chip way back with some amazing results.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 09:42:29 (permalink)
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 I believe the B027's are the best 920's out there with the B026's coming in a tight 2nd place.  Either way they are both great batches.
 
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Core i7 920 D0 Batch#: 3845B027   
CPU clocked at: 4420.0 MHz     
Voltage: 1.270 idle/1.282 load  
Idle temp: 37,38,36,35   
Load temp: 71,71,67,64 <- Priceless 
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Core i7: 920 Batch #3845B026 DO
CPU clocked at: 4420.1 MHz
Idle Voltage: 1.25 Wo/VDroop
Load Voltage: 1.27
Idle temps: 45,45,44,42
Load temps: 84,85,79,80

Are you sure about that
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 10:23:46 (permalink)
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It was. But today just a cool room (45F), no outside air. Thank you sir.


Wow, that's one cold room!!   I can see you right now, staring a computer screen covered in icicles, lol.

The only way I can get a room temp of 5-6C is if I move my room into the freezer!

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 10:30:25 (permalink)
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@ awalleyeguy... Your Vcore is 1.65v?  How did you get those temps with 45*f room temps?
 
BTW... that is one seet case you have there... how many radiators could you put in that if you wanted to max it out?  I think that would be nice for my TEC water chillers which need a lot of heat removal for the hotsides of the TECs!


I am guessing at the ambient temp, but was like 40F outside. I am mow using an extended Mountain Mods UFO Horizion. I have 2 feser black ice triple rads (used to be 2 loops CPU and GPU) 2 swiftech MPC655 pumps and only cooling the CPU with water. Probably could put like 3 or 4 more rads in the case easily, if I so desired, over kill?  What I think made the biggest difference as far is temps is Vdroop. I know it is suppose to be safer blah blah blah. All previous runs were WITHOUT Vdroop. This one was with Vdroop if nothing else brought temps down by like 10C.                                                  I read a post some where by trs32505 saying along the lines that with out vdroop can help cause instability at higher overclocks. So I thought I will give it a try.  I also have found that if voltages are to high at higher O/C (4700Mhz+) voltages that are too high are a issue. In other words before attempting to run as high a clock as my recent tests, I would have my Vtt at like +275 to +350 well at those settings I will get BSOD 101,124,50, and what ever. My highest HT on run was with Vtt of +225 my highest HT off was with Vtt +.175. My memory is at 2:8, 9-9-9-24.  See at 4650Mhz I could get a way with Vtt +.275 to +.350 and was good and stable. Just thought I would share a little.
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 10:36:42 (permalink)
Hmm, so VDroop actually  lowered your temps. This is very interesting because I never would have thought it mattered. I always assumed that if you need X amount of voltage under full load, it didn't really matter how you got there (down with VDroop, or up without VDroop), just as long as you got there.

In other words, I've always though something like 1.50V would have the same core temp with or without VDroop, and the only thing that would be different would be the idle temps because those voltages would be completely different with and without VDroop.

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 10:52:47 (permalink)
Well what I noticed was voltage of course goes down at load with vdroop, and on my last run varied between 1.588 to 1.621 and pretty much stayed there even if upping setting a couple notches, now lowering a few nothches could bring load voltage down, but not the same amount as what voltage was lowered. In other words. If I lowered voltage say 4 notches the load voltage may have only gone down 2 notches. So I am guessing that load voltage has something to do with how much voltage the CPU needs for a set clock with a particular voltage amount available. So it is not etched in stone that with vdroop and 1.5v setting cpu will get 1.42v under load.  Of course without Vdroop that's a different ball game all together, sorta opposite.


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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 11:02:46 (permalink)
I see, so VDroop is a little bit "smarter" than what we previously thought. It's almost sort of a modified Auto setting, if you will.

I'm going to definitely try this out. I'll certainly try anything to get load temps down, that's for sure.

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 11:05:17 (permalink)
Keep in mind that your initial setting will have to be higher than your with out vdroop setting.


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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:25:37 (permalink)
We have run some tests with the program LinX 4 core 4 thread. This is in no way trying to show how stable our processor is with this program. We do not have hours and hours to run this stability test just to satisfy a few people in the forums. What we do want to show is the heat removal capacity of our modded OCZ unit. There was a post in the beginning of the thread of a screen shot of a W3540 @ 4.818 @ 1.41 volts. This individual stated he had a custom built phase unit from someone over at XS and that it was calibrated to 220 watts of heat removal. His average running temps @ 4.818 @ 1.41 volts was in the mid 30c rang with a peak of 34c. We have set our i7-975 to the same clocks but with much more voltage than he was running. All and all we feel that the test results we are posting should be creating more heat than his run at the settings he listed. We like to show temps with Everest for it can show the rise and level off of temps throughout the test. We have also run Real temp for that seems to be the program used throughout this thread. As you can sfies some of the skeptics here slamming our modded unit.
 
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:30:20 (permalink)
dont see the link or picture or attachments?

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:30:33 (permalink)
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:44:27 (permalink)
I will post it for him, but it's only 2 passes :(
 

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:49:44 (permalink)
Like I said we are not trying to prove stability just heat removal..........
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:51:40 (permalink)
is that 33'c showing on the core temp program...the low core or the higher core?


dang..what up with the stealthy pictures?

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:52:43 (permalink)
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I will post it for him, but it's only 2 passes :(
 


 
I think he want's to show the stability of the phase temps... not his chip.   He's running more voltage at the same clock with the same temps.... only two passes but you can see the temps are not running away.
 
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:55:49 (permalink)
4 cores 4 threads...If you do some reaserch on this program you all are running, which we do anytime running something we have not run before you will find it is not very HT friendly...
 
 
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 13:56:39 (permalink)
 

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:02:22 (permalink)
well let me know how yours works oc333, but with everything enabled. since im not running 4/4 im running 4/8

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:06:50 (permalink)
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well let me know how yours works oc333, but with everything enabled. since im not running 4/4 im running 4/8

 
To be quite honest... LinX is very buggy with HT on as well noted... but I will do it.  I can't tell you how many times it has run 19 passes with no problems only to crash when the 20th pass completes.... a real pain.   I'm pretty sure it will rock as CBGPCS is running some decent voltage there... my temps at that speed were in the 60*c range... at 30*c it should do very well.


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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:09:22 (permalink)
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To be quite honest... LinX is very buggy with HT on as well noted... but I will do it.  I can't tell you how many times it has run 19 passes with know problems only to crash when the 20th pass completes.... a real pain.   I'm pretty sure it will rock as CBGPCS is running some decent voltage there... my temps at that speed were in the 60*c range... at 30*c it should very well.
   Oh the 20th line of failure with 8 threads, tell me about it. Happens many many times




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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:12:02 (permalink)
yeah, join the club!..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

but that's not what im after..

that's about an hour of run time and im more about the temps it held during that time. ok..it failed at the end..no biggie...but your temps held fast. which is really more important in the end..right guys?

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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:21:42 (permalink)
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Oh the 20th line of failure with 8 threads, tell me about it. Happens many many times

 
It actually happens with 4 threads too... absolutely no reason for it after 19 runs... and it happens just as the 20th is completing and LinX should be completing!
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Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2009/12/19 14:28:33 (permalink)
yeah...like all of a sudden...the cpu doesn't have enough power to say...."im done"

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