awalleyeguy

SimC33

calm down, calm down...sheesh ima add em in I promise lol

trs32505...what was the post # on your Xeon in this thread so I can add and link the screenie?

Awalleyeguy, you want me to add your top xeon screenie as well?

I do not have a xeon screenie, just think the xeons should count , that's all.

Ahh ok...overclocker...was it you that had the Xeon besides trs???

*UPDATED*

For SimC33------My listing in the Club i7 Stability Continuation is in the wrong section----i belong in the HT Off section -----see my # 380 post.

Thank you.

Bluebrains

For SimC33------My listing in the Club i7 Stability Continuation is in the wrong section----i belong in the HT Off section -----see my # 380 post.

Thank you.

got ya taken care of...thank you for pointing it out!

SimC

awalleyeguy  Core i7 920 BATCH# 3845B027  HT OFF
CPU clocked at: 4860.0 MHz   
Voltage: 1.61 
Idle temp: 15,11,15,09 
Load temp: 67,62,62,56    

 Thanks.    Well like i posted(?) earlier in the back room sealed off with fans blowing in cold out side air of about -6C, some day I will go phase, I hope. Yeah not exactly room temp. LOL EDIT: can't seem to get the GFlops you get though, memory? But I did notice the total time is still shorter.

Check out this modified OCZ phase unit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR55D2mtvqQ

Update!!
I hit 4.2

Core i7: 920 D0 Batch #: 3901A237 
CPU clocked at: 4210.8 MHz  
Voltage: 1.35 Without VDroop  
Idle temps: 36,34,38,34  <----usually (pic was taken right after test) 
Load temps: 79,78,80,75 (80 max with fans on full) 
H/T: ON

man, that's looking very inviting there....

I dunno.  For $800 I would get a F1EE pot and a dewar.  Forget trying to run 5ghz 24/7 as the seller is trying to sell you.  Sounds good on paper but what is the benefit of running that fast 24/7?  You would get more use and higher clocks out of the LN2 setup.  Not to mention your electricity bill will love you.  Then you might as well cancel out the 5.2ghz video.  At those temps that is about all you'll be able to do, boot into Windows and that is if you are lucky.  Forget about trying to run a bench.  Not trying to rain on any parades just my opinion.

overclocker333

Check out this modified OCZ phase unit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR55D2mtvqQ

looks impressive what they have done with a Cryo-Z but 400W load from that unit with a simple gas/oil change is completely laughable. online calculators != load testers, the simple fact that they are basing their advertising on that is a joke and should indicate the knowledge behind the product. in addition, when was the last time you saw anyone use Everest stability test as a means of testing a processor...its because you haven't. this thread is case in point, you aren't using Everest stability test are you?

like Dr. Nip said, i am not trying to rain on anyone's parade but false advertising shouldn't be celebrated and spread. they also say "run your system at 5GHz 24/7"...they surely can't be serious because very few chips will do that, without a cascade actually capable of a 400W load at -90C, unless they mean just sitting there idling.

just for comparison, i have a Chilly1 SS (with an equal or better compressor/condenser/evap than the Cryo-Z) which has been re-gassed and tuned for a 220W load (actually tuned on a load tester like all real phase builders do), and 4.8GHz @ 1.4125v ran the requirements for this thread...

*removed because i don't want to be listed, just showing the screen for comparison sake...the questions about cooling have already started, and i don't want to be a source of contention*



you can see temps got up to 30C under load with evap temp around -20C at the warmest during the run. this is with HT off, with HT on, forget about it as the heat just kills the unit. now this W3540 is a high leagage chip and about the equivilant to a cooler running chip for heat at the same clocks with 1.6v...but this is max 220W as that is all this unit can handle.  anything over 220W and it goes in the tank fast.

again, not trying to be jerk or crush anyone's feelings but just saying their methodology and claims are a little extravagant. i am definitely interested in seeing what the unit can do once you get it though overclocker333. just keep your expectations in check is all i am suggesting.

DrNip

I dunno.  For $800 I would get a F1EE pot and a dewar.  Forget trying to run 5ghz 24/7 as the seller is trying to sell you.  Sounds good on paper but what is the benefit of running that fast 24/7?  You would get more use and higher clocks out of the LN2 setup.  Not to mention your electricity bill will love you.  Then you might as well cancel out the 5.2ghz video.  At those temps that is about all you'll be able to do, boot into Windows and that is if you are lucky.  Forget about trying to run a bench.  Not trying to rain on any parades just my opinion.

With all due respect "Doc"... phase and LN2 are apples and oranges.  You can't just flip a switch and be up and running with LN2... or  keep it in a case for that matter.  Benefits of running high clocks 24/7... rendering and crunching to name a few.  I do Raytrace renders that can takeover 12hrs... I cant do that with LN2.
 
 
 

3oh6

overclocker333

Check out this modified OCZ phase unit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR55D2mtvqQ

looks impressive what they have done with a Cryo-Z but 400W load from that unit with a simple gas/oil change is completely laughable. online calculators != load testers, the simple fact that they are basing their advertising on that is a joke and should indicate the knowledge behind the product. in addition, when was the last time you saw anyone use Everest stability test as a means of testing a processor...its because you haven't. this thread is case in point, you aren't using Everest stability test are you?

 
Granted... Everest does not produce the same temps as Prime95 let alone the bugged LinX stress test... so I am curious what it will do.  It is re-gassed with three different gasses... not just one... he's not saying what gasses they are... some are better than others as I'm sure you know.  Also... he has modified the condensor fans.
 
 

3oh6

like Dr. Nip said, i am not trying to rain on anyone's parade but false advertising shouldn't be celebrated and spread. they also say "run your system at 5GHz 24/7"...they surely can't be serious because very few chips will do that, without a cascade actually capable of a 400W load at -90C, unless they mean just sitting there idling.

 
I don't think he is advertising falsely... he is showing you what he has done with an i7 975... looks like to me he is stable on Everest... we will see how it does on Prime95... the way LinX is performing at the higher clocks... I'm not sure it will be a good test.

 
 

3oh6
just for comparison, i have a Chilly1 SS (with an equal or better compressor/condenser/evap than the Cryo-Z) which has been re-gassed and tuned for a 220W load (actually tuned on a load tester like all real phase builders do), and 4.8GHz @ 1.4125v ran the requirements for this thread...

3oh6  Xeon W3540 BATCH# 3845B010  HT OFF
CPU clocked at: 4818.0 MHz   
Voltage: 1.4125 (VDroop Disabled) 
Idle temp: -?,-?,-?,-? 
Load temp: 34,30,27,22
Cooling: Chilly1 SS Tuned by Ruffus



you can see temps got up to 30C under load with evap temp around -20C at the warmest during the run. this is with HT off, with HT on, forget about it as the heat just kills the unit. now this W3540 is a high leagage chip and about the equivilant to a cooler running chip for heat at the same clocks with 1.6v...but this is max 220W as that is all this unit can handle.  anything over 220W and it goes in the tank fast.

 
If your running 30*c then he is not far of running at 40*c - 50*c as long as it holds.  He has tuned this for stability... not max temps.  Also... what gas and how much is yours charged with?  The more you put in... the more heat it can disapate. 

3oh6
again, not trying to be jerk or crush anyone's feelings but just saying their methodology and claims are a little extravagant. i am definitely interested in seeing what the unit can do once you get it though overclocker333. just keep your expectations in check is all i am suggesting.

 
Well we will know next week... my  main concern is if the compressor will last... he says it looks like a Danfoss without the markings... I don't think it is.

Hmmmm...this thread is turning into an extreme overclocking section...hardly fair to classify Phase/SS with chilled water and/or chilled water with just regular water.  SimC33, I think you need to break out the top speeds by cooling man.  It's getting pretty silly here.  Now we got more professional overclockers coming in too with access to some seriously nice equipment that most of us others do not have, period.  Hats off to awalleyeguy for keeping up...it's that beautiful chip man   The way things are going we may get k|ngp|n or massman in here soon, posting runs on liters upon liters of LN2 lol, or maybe somebody with a multi-stage cascade.

SimC33, what do you seriously think about breaking out the records based on cooling type?

custombuiltcomputers

What are the benefits??
When companies that run FEA analysis software are taking up to 14 to 16 hour per simulation, these runs can now be done in about 5 hours @ 5Ghz or better. We have been delivering 5Ghz 24/7 units for over 3 months now and are saving tons of time for the companies running these types of software.

Vendor?  Oh my...I hope while they are running simulations at 5GHz+ they are validating their answers with a slower system otherwise I'd be inclined to wonder whether the output is correct.  Floating point round off errors are not what you want in a simulation or analysis.  Anyway...

********** Thread derailed **********

You guys need to take this discussion somewhere else...say XS in the Phase section...

SimC33, this is why I am saying that we need to section off stuff...it's going to become my e-peen is bigger than your e-peen.

dejanh


SimC33, this is why I am saying that we need to section off stuff...it's going to become my e-peen is bigger than your e-peen.

 
It's not an ego thing... just fun competition for crying out loud.
 
Also... I think it is good to discuss different cooling solutions for stable speeds... that is what overclocking is all about.