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2016/03/27 12:37:28 (permalink)
Since you aren't even pretending to listen to player feedback there's no point in having an section of the forum dedicated to the gaming community. Just put whatever new rule in the gaming section.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/27 12:54:13 (permalink)
Haha the guy who just a month ago complained about seeing an admin crouching in game and got eVGA to make a new rule is saying they don't even pretend to listen. Good one.

And since when is a section dedicated to the gaming community only supposed to be about player feedback? Pretty sure this section is here for more than just that.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/27 12:55:52 (permalink)
Which feedback are you referring to? Your complaint about admins crouching over a dead body... oh that's right they listened to that and it's no longer allowed. Oh wait you must mean where admins balanced teams... no that can't be it because that's not allowed now either. Hmmm what could you be talking about?

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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/27 12:58:55 (permalink)
I would ask that you please direct any complaints or concerns via email to EGC@EVGA.com so that they can be reviewed and we can follow up with you directly. 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 00:30:31 (permalink)
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Which feedback are you referring to? Your complaint about admins crouching over a dead body... oh that's right they listened to that and it's no longer allowed. Oh wait you must mean where admins balanced teams... no that can't be it because that's not allowed now either. Hmmm what could you be talking about?



The feed back like see what the community thinks before adding a new server rule that affects game play, or how about making the servers fun again, where players don't have to worry about admins nitpicking everything they say.  Funny how from 2008-2014 the community was more active on the servers, during the same time, admins didn't nitpick at players. The community got along with each other. Even you have to admit, during BFBC2,BF3 and start of BF4, the servers were a lot more fun to play on, we had a lot more community involvement on them too.
 
Arctic is right about closing EGC section. EVGA gaming is not about EGC anymore from what i have seen, the community doesn't have any say about the servers rules that affect gameplay.  One person that rarely played on the server complains about Mobile AA on one BF4 map, instead of seeing what the community thinks, what did we see EVGA do, they just made up a new rule. If that doesn't show that EVGA no longer cares what the community thinks, nothing will.
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 04:30:57 (permalink)
Let's start here, I have 1 ban on this event. I have quite a few kicks after repeated WARNINGS. I have moved people from PTC and FEEC to split them up and even out the teams. Last night alone I admin killed people camping AA in our base on Zavod, Dawn Breaker, and the artillary truck on Hanan Resort (or whatever is called). During this event I've given warnings to people (of your little group) for camping spawn or red zone while other people in the server were complaining about it not kicked, not banned.... warned.
This community didn't fall apart because you all chose to not be admins any more or because the new rules are in place.
It's the people that constantly push the rules that are being kicked or banned.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 05:15:25 (permalink)
Objectivity is a problem for those 'in power'. I can't say that is the case here, as I don't use the eVGA servers, but I do know
that people tend to have 'favorites' and play towards them in resolving issues.
 
Things like this need to be "Business is business, and even though you're a friend, if I fire you, it's nothing personal, it is
business".
 
 

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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 09:31:39 (permalink)
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Let's start here, I have 1 ban on this event. I have quite a few kicks after repeated WARNINGS. I have moved people from PTC and FEEC to split them up and even out the teams. Last night alone I admin killed people camping AA in our base on Zavod, Dawn Breaker, and the artillary truck on Hanan Resort (or whatever is called). During this event I've given warnings to people (of your little group) for camping spawn or red zone while other people in the server were complaining about it not kicked, not banned.... warned.
This community didn't fall apart because you all chose to not be admins any more or because the new rules are in place.
It's the people that constantly push the rules that are being kicked or banned.


The community fell apart before the new rules. The new rules is causing more people to turn away from evga gaming.
 
Most of the community didn't have a problem with how players used the mobile AA or Artillery truck in BF4. We knew it was part of the game, skilled jet pilots can take out the mobile AA no matter where it's hiding, staying inside the uncap just helped to protect mobile AA from jihad jeeps or 4 wheeler. 
 
When no one will reach out to the community for comments/feedback before making new rules that affect gameplay. Why should the community care about the servers outside a gaming event. I think EVGA could do more to try repairing the burnt bridges with the community, but so far they won't do it.
 
 
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 10:58:37 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby EVGATech_ChrisB 2016/03/31 08:54:01
Hello Everyone,
 
EVGA will not be closing the EGC sections, we are doing everything we can to make our severs family safe and enjoyable to play on. We do care about the community and that is why we asked for feedback and received very little compared to the amount of players that play.
 
Any additional feedback is appreciated and can be emailed to: egc@evga.com
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 11:12:25 (permalink)
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family safe

Why is a server for a game rated M, 17+, being made into a "family safe/safe space"? If this was TF2 I could understand it. But Battlefield 4 is a game that has characters cussing, extreme violence, it glamorizes war, etc. Why are you trying to impose a E rating in a game server for a game that has a M rating?
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 11:21:14 (permalink)
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family safe

Why is a server for a game rated M, 17+, being made into a "family safe/safe space"? If this was TF2 I could understand it. But Battlefield 4 is a game that has characters cussing, extreme violence, it glamorizes war, etc. Why are you trying to impose a E rating in a game server for a game that has a M rating?

Well we did just have someone complain about an admin crouching in game that made them feel uncomfortable.  You would think someone playing a M rated game wouldn't care about that.  But unfortunately they must cater to everyone (even the immature) since they are a buisness.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 16:02:31 (permalink)
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Based on your answer to that, you obviously have no clue what the issue at hand was.  The issue is with server admins being required to conduct themselves in a professional manner while playing on EVGA servers.

lol playing video games is in itself not conducting in a professional manner.  Fact of the matter still remains, we didn't have that E rating rule until someone got their underwear in a knot about someone crouching in a game.  He has no right about complaining about E rating rules when he was the one that got a new E rated rule put on the server.  If he truly wanted a M rated server, he wouldn't have said anything.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 17:17:17 (permalink)
The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.

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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 17:55:28 (permalink)
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The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.


There is an admin who started banning people from a certain clan because they kicked him out of their teamspeak, so I don't doubt your accusation.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:01:26 (permalink)
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The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.

There is an admin who started banning people from a certain clan because they kicked him out of their teamspeak, so I don't doubt your accusation.

May we see the screen shots of this?  Because if this is true, then I'm sure AT LEAST one of them would have taken a screen shot for being banned for no reason.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:06:30 (permalink)
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The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.

There is an admin who started banning people from a certain clan because they kicked him out of their teamspeak, so I don't doubt your accusation.

May we see the screen shots of this?  Because if this is true, then I'm sure AT LEAST one of them would have taken a screen shot for being banned for no reason.


There's an entire thread about it, go find it if you care that much.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:11:52 (permalink)
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The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.

There is an admin who started banning people from a certain clan because they kicked him out of their teamspeak, so I don't doubt your accusation.

May we see the screen shots of this?  Because if this is true, then I'm sure AT LEAST one of them would have taken a screen shot for being banned for no reason.


There's an entire thread about it, go find it if you care that much.


I know exactly what you're talking about Arctic-Eagle. It is out there for everyone to read.

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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:12:41 (permalink)
The majority of them got banned for baserape.
Thx for bringing that up because its a nice story of admins actually doing their work.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:14:25 (permalink)
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The only issue I would ever be wary of is an admin kicking someone who is winning, which is making the team the admin is on [lose]. Can't prove they're doing it, and can't prove that they're not doing it... .
And nobody can prove it otherwise from either side.

There is an admin who started banning people from a certain clan because they kicked him out of their teamspeak, so I don't doubt your accusation.

May we see the screen shots of this?  Because if this is true, then I'm sure AT LEAST one of them would have taken a screen shot for being banned for no reason.

There's an entire thread about it, go find it if you care that much.

I know exactly what you're talking about Arctic-Eagle. It is out there for everyone to read.

Just searched and found nothing about an admin banning people from a certain clan.  So where is this evidence?
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:17:47 (permalink)
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The majority of them got banned for baserape.
Thx for bringing that up because its a nice story of admins actually doing their work.


Just to clarify, my post was a general statement to where you cannot prove, nor can you prove, that an admin would kick a player that is on the opposing team that was winning, making the losing team, which the admin is on, lose.
 
To me that looks to be a loop hole that any admin may be able to get away with.
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:22:05 (permalink)
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The majority of them got banned for baserape.
Thx for bringing that up because its a nice story of admins actually doing their work.

Just to clarify, my post was a general statement to where you cannot prove, nor can you prove, that an admin would kick a player that is on the opposing team that was winning, making the losing team, which the admin is on, lose.
 
To me that looks to be a loop hole that any admin may be able to get away with.

Actually it's easy to tell if the person got kicked reasonably with a recorded chat log which it looks like they have from other threads.  The person in question can ask for said chat logs and see why they got kicked/banned.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:25:28 (permalink)
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The majority of them got banned for baserape.
Thx for bringing that up because its a nice story of admins actually doing their work.

Just to clarify, my post was a general statement to where you cannot prove, nor can you prove, that an admin would kick a player that is on the opposing team that was winning, making the losing team, which the admin is on, lose.
 
To me that looks to be a loop hole that any admin may be able to get away with.

Actually it's easy to tell if the person got kicked reasonably with a recorded chat log which it looks like they have from other threads.  The person in question can ask for said chat logs and see why they got kicked/banned.


Perhaps, but when the player comes back in, the game is already over. Either way you look at it, the admin can come back with the excuse, "oh sorry, wrong player." By that point, the new game has already began, or the room is then full.
 
I'm not taking sides. I only see a loop hole here.
 
Following the rules is one thing. Corruption is another. It's hard to prove corruptness.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:38:29 (permalink)
It's actually really easy to prove corruptness with evidence; which if he did do that, he would have left evidence to show.  And if the admins were truly doing this, I'm sure it would have been brought up by now with plenty of proof.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:41:20 (permalink)
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Actually it's easy to tell if the person got kicked reasonably with a recorded chat log which it looks like they have from other threads.  The person in question can ask for said chat logs and see why they got kicked/banned.




You can ask all day long for server logs, that doesn't mean you will receive them.  I was refused server logs from when an unknown server admin accused me of "acting like an admin" when i wasn't.  I was told "we can't share server chat logs" because they didn't want me to know which admin said it.
 
 
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 18:44:54 (permalink)
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You can ask all day long for server logs, that doesn't mean you will receive them.  I was refused server logs from when an unknown server admin accused me of "acting like an admin" when i wasn't.  I was told "we can't share server chat logs" because they didn't want me to know which admin said it.

http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2463613
 
This post right here shows that hey do share the server chat logs.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/29 20:11:35 (permalink)
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You can ask all day long for server logs, that doesn't mean you will receive them.  I was refused server logs from when an unknown server admin accused me of "acting like an admin" when i wasn't.  I was told "we can't share server chat logs" because they didn't want me to know which admin said it.

http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2463613
 
This post right here shows that hey do share the server chat logs.




Mine would of shown which admin was in the wrong by accusing me of "acting like an admin".
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/30 10:08:51 (permalink)
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It's actually really easy to prove corruptness with evidence; which if he did do that, he would have left evidence to show.  And if the admins were truly doing this, I'm sure it would have been brought up by now with plenty of proof.


There is no way that you can prove that an admin would/could do such a thing. That is my point. And during an event...? Oh boy that's scary. WHen the victim who was kicked on "accident" tries to come back in, I pray his spot is still available...
 
The only "evidence" that it would show was the admin kicked the user.... by mistake.
 
"Oh, I am so sorry that I kicked you. It was a complete 'accident', and clearly it was the wrong person..."
 
Towlie, I find it a little weird that you are defending this. Just saying...
 
 
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/30 10:13:13 (permalink)
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WHen the victim who was kicked on "accident" tries to come back in, I pray his spot is still available...

Has anyone been kicked on "accident" like you keep saying?  Or are you just talking hypothetically?
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/30 10:20:02 (permalink)
Im pretty sure its just hypothetically, but if something like that were to happen more often it wouldnt go unnoticed.
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Re: Close the EGC section 2016/03/30 10:34:49 (permalink)
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Im pretty sure its just hypothetically, but if something like that were to happen more often it wouldnt go unnoticed.

Exactly which is my point.  If this was happening, you know someone would say something.
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