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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 10:29:43
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I Vote to keep the EVGApes name we currently have as to eliminate confusion
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 10:58:41
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I can see the reasons on both sides. If we keep it the same, that name will pass some of our real folders who produce high volume points. Then they are scrambling to pass that non perrson who can take number one on our team. But if we go with a new name we will end up having 2 non person entities in our top 10 producers.
My vote is to use the same name again. One non person near the top of our leader board is plenty. And it does nothing to change the conribution from our mega folders.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 11:15:47
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passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 11:33:36
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Bruce wrote:The bonus applies after you've done 10 a2 or a3 WUs provided you have used the same passkey and the same UserName on all applicable machines and provided you meet the 80% rule. http://foldingforum.org/v...mp;t=13160&start=0
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 11:34:14
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Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
So what you are saying is that folks already doing the bigadv can use theor same passkey and just swap names to EVGApes? We don't need to do the 10 units over again to qualify the bonus points when they change the name, only if they change the passkey? That would make things much easier than setting up new passkeys that need to be primed to get the bonus points. I wonder if we need to test this first to make sure the points will go to EVGApes without priming. Or has someone here already done this to show there are no problems in changing the user name?
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 11:38:29
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See my previous post. Bonuses require a user name/ passkey combination. Even generating a passkey requires a user name. Using a passkey generated for a different user name would probably keep you from getting bonus points, though I'm sure the new name would still get the base points. You can use multiple passkeys with one user name (I posted about this earlier in this thread) but you can't use multiple user names with one passkey.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 13:02:24
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Punchy
I think you can have multiple passkeys for the same name by using different email addresses.
http://foldingforum.org/v...mp;t=13141&start=0
That might be the best way to avoid this potential problem. The only downside is that each person would have to do a bit of "warmup" before the contest started to get the 10 qualifying WU's, but that shouldn't be too bad.
I'm game to do some "pre-testing" to make sure this actually works. We only need 2 people to each grab a passkey, do the 10 qualifying WU's, then do a few more, and make sure both people are actually getting the time bonuses.
I volunteer to do the "pre-testing" to make sure it works...ill give up my -bigadv and ill try to fold under the 2 passkeys for the -bigadv...Many of you here know me so in saying that, I am no double agent lol...Team 111065 for life... So l337h4l, hook me up with the key we will use and ill begin doing the 10 WU's under my name and see if it works or if we will all have to use just ONE key SimC
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 13:36:34
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Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
So what you are saying is that folks already doing the bigadv can use theor same passkey and just swap names to EVGApes? We don't need to do the 10 units over again to qualify the bonus points when they change the name, only if they change the passkey?
That would make things much easier than setting up new passkeys that need to be primed to get the bonus points.
I wonder if we need to test this first to make sure the points will go to EVGApes without priming. Or has someone here already done this to show there are no problems in changing the user name?
that is correct just change your user name to evgapes and keep the same passkey youve been using and let 'er rip
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 14:11:23
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Tasmac
rcranfield
Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
So what you are saying is that folks already doing the bigadv can use theor same passkey and just swap names to EVGApes? We don't need to do the 10 units over again to qualify the bonus points when they change the name, only if they change the passkey?
That would make things much easier than setting up new passkeys that need to be primed to get the bonus points.
I wonder if we need to test this first to make sure the points will go to EVGApes without priming. Or has someone here already done this to show there are no problems in changing the user name?
that is correct just change your user name to evgapes and keep the same passkey youve been using and let 'er rip
Im going to try this and report back after it completes...I have about 20% more left on MY -bigadv so once that finishes, I will report back to you all and let you know what goes on in the process...IF this is the case that all we have to do is change usernames then lets hope its smooth sailing, but we shall see... SimC
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 15:12:29
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I'm not sure switching names in mid WU will work. I thing the current WU you are working on will credit to your name, the next one will credit to EVGApes. That is, if just swapping names works at all. There seems to be some disagreement as to this. Your experiment is appreciated.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 15:32:38
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When you change the name and Quit and ReStart the WU, it will be credited to the new name.
I've done this a couple of times with my GPU's, switching to Afterburners.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 16:06:06
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Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
How about backing up this statement with some references or facts? I must have a gross misunderstanding of the English language if "use the same username and same passkey" actually means you can use a different username and the same passkey. I'm going to fold my next A3 WU using my Punchy passkey and the EVGApes user name just to put this for rest. Then maybe SimC and I can try the case that should work: two people using the same EVGApes name but different passkeys (generated using the EVGApes user name on the Stanford passkey generator page) both get bonuses.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 16:16:06
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Punchy
Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
How about backing up this statement with some references or facts?
I must have a gross misunderstanding of the English language if "use the same username and same passkey" actually means you can use a different username and the same passkey.
I'm going to fold my next A3 WU using my Punchy passkey and the EVGApes user name just to put this for rest. Then maybe SimC and I can try the case that should work: two people using the same EVGApes name but different passkeys (generated using the EVGApes user name on the Stanford passkey generator page) both get bonuses.
That will be a really big help in understanding what we need to do. Thanks a punch[:>)]
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 16:29:04
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rcranfield
Punchy
Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
How about backing up this statement with some references or facts?
I must have a gross misunderstanding of the English language if "use the same username and same passkey" actually means you can use a different username and the same passkey.
I'm going to fold my next A3 WU using my Punchy passkey and the EVGApes user name just to put this for rest. Then maybe SimC and I can try the case that should work: two people using the same EVGApes name but different passkeys (generated using the EVGApes user name on the Stanford passkey generator page) both get bonuses.
That will be a really big help in understanding what we need to do. Thanks a punch[:>)]
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 17:26:42
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Punchy
Tasmac
passkeys do not have to be changed they will work for EVGApes
points dont go to the passkey they go to user name and team
a passkey is used to keep track of time completion rate
you can use the same passkey for twenty years and change your username or teams 500 times and the points will go to the user name and team everytime
How about backing up this statement with some references or facts?
I must have a gross misunderstanding of the English language if "use the same username and same passkey" actually means you can use a different username and the same passkey.
I'm going to fold my next A3 WU using my Punchy passkey and the EVGApes user name just to put this for rest. Then maybe SimC and I can try the case that should work: two people using the same EVGApes name but different passkeys (generated using the EVGApes user name on the Stanford passkey generator page) both get bonuses.
back it up with facts...... listen to me its no big deal you can either try it or not or you can go to the f@h forum and ask I wasnt trying to get in a legal issue. I just know for a fact it works next time I wont put any helpful post...geeez its getting to a point when ya have to have a lawyer present before ya post something
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 17:59:48
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Y'all both need a time out. Go to your rooms!!
I actually appreciate all your inputs.Thank you guys for caring enough to share your knowledge.
Folding is certainly not easy, and with all new things developing in folding there is a learning curve. The good in this is that everyone is trying to help. We need to concentrate on the good both of you are trying to do. Can wew please shake and make up?
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 18:03:22
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ok, dad... sorry punchy... just blow'n off steam puncy the reason I know this works is I used to fold the -bigadv for a different forum and came to evga from time to time because well all my $**** is EVGA anyway DragonElite was doing this thing for citizen soldier and even though I was from a different forum I helped. then after we met our goals I came to evga to stay and i started folding. I used my same passkey through all the changes with the -bigadv and that how I know "just stating the facts" lol from dragnet :)
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 18:05:52
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Can we get this going again this year? http://forums.evga.com...2&mpage=1&key= I can spearhead the efforts during one week in mid-march. A lot busier this year though so if someone else wants to take the initiative to start even earlier that'd be great, the system and PM is already written for you. (PS, I was still receiving reply PMs to that about 6 months later... LOL)
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 18:15:32
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Sorry! We may even be arguing about different things... When you moved between forums, were you using the same user name and just switching team numbers, or were you changing both? Edit: I asked the question on FCF and Bruce wasn't really sure. Just shows how this whole passkey thing is way more complex than necessary. The bottom line answer was to try it and see...
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 18:54:18
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rcranfield
I can see the reasons on both sides. If we keep it the same, that name will pass some of our real folders who produce high volume points. Then they are scrambling to pass that non perrson who can take number one on our team. But if we go with a new name we will end up having 2 non person entities in our top 10 producers.
My vote is to use the same name again. One non person near the top of our leader board is plenty. And it does nothing to change the contribution from our mega folders.
Hi RC, Well my point was that evgapes has 29 million points right now, he is in 9th place, at his current pace and with Horvat and fahman he won't be in the top 10 in May. So he was in the top 10 for almost a year, and still may be. If his points are duplicated, he is at aprox 60 million points at the end of this May, and he is likely to be in the top 10 for a year maybe two or three years, 60 million points is a lot of points. By May several of us will be well over 60 million points, so we aren't the ones impacted. In any case, I didn't see one entry last year that started the contest with millions of points accumulated in prior years, correct me if I am wrong. So I don't think they will let us use the same nick. For me the main point is the length of the contest, and I would hope l337h4l votes/input is to keep it the same, 20 million points.
 
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 19:52:53
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Punchy
Sorry! We may even be arguing about different things... When you moved between forums, were you using the same user name and just switching team numbers, or were you changing both?
Edit: I asked the question on FCF and Bruce wasn't really sure. Just shows how this whole passkey thing is way more complex than necessary. The bottom line answer was to try it and see...
I changed user name and team from (OCF) to Tasmac(EVGA) to citizen soldier(EVGA) same passkey :)
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 20:11:38
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mmillion
rcranfield
I can see the reasons on both sides. If we keep it the same, that name will pass some of our real folders who produce high volume points. Then they are scrambling to pass that non perrson who can take number one on our team. But if we go with a new name we will end up having 2 non person entities in our top 10 producers.
My vote is to use the same name again. One non person near the top of our leader board is plenty. And it does nothing to change the contribution from our mega folders.
Hi RC,
Well my point was that evgapes has 29 million points right now, he is in 9th place, at his current pace and with Horvat and fahman he won't be in the top 10 in May. So he was in the top 10 for almost a year, and still may be. If his points are duplicated, he is at aprox 60 million points at the end of this May, and he is likely to be in the top 10 for a year maybe two or three years, 60 million points is a lot of points.
By May several of us will be well over 60 million points, so we aren't the ones impacted.
In any case, I didn't see one entry last year that started the contest with millions of points accumulated in prior years, correct me if I am wrong. So I don't think they will let us use the same nick.
For me the main point is the length of the contest, and I would hope l337h4l votes/input is to keep it the same, 20 million points.
There were definitely reused names last year. But they did not have large point totals because the prior year the goal was only 5 million points. That seems like nothing anymore. Heck, one day of our folding and the contest would be over. But, yes, the other teams did reuse their names. That does not mean we have to, though. For some reason we have had a continuous contribution to EVGApes since the end of last years contest. It would be nice if we took advantage of that background contribution in this years contest. It is not a lot, but every little bit helps. Check out the thread I started over at MPC forums about the new years CC. http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=103093 There is nothing in stone. In fact they want to rewrite the rules to make it so anyone could win. They want it more competitive. I am not sure what they have up their sleeve, but I do not think folding for more points than last year would make it more competitive. So I think the point total will not go up. What will change is not known. We just have to wait and see.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 20:28:36
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Here are the Stanford stats for my passkey after running one A3 (p6015 = 484 pts) using my passkey but changing the username to EVGApes:
1 Punchy 1853892 35 111065
2 EVGApes 484 1 111065
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 21:03:03
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Punchy
Here are the Stanford stats for my passkey after running one A3 (p6015 = 484 pts) using my passkey but changing the username to EVGApes:
1 Punchy 1853892 35 111065
2 EVGApes 484 1 111065
So simply changing the name did allow the points to go to the new name, but no bonus points. Does this mean that each individual using their own passkey would need to prime the new name with 10 WUs to get the bonus points? If so, it makes more sense to have two or three passkeys for EVGApes and give them out to team members after the passkey/name has been primed.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 21:07:58
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warthorn
Can we get this going again this year?
http://forums.evga.comarchive/tm.asp?m=100645302&mpage=1&key=
I can spearhead the efforts during one week in mid-march. A lot busier this year though so if someone else wants to take the initiative to start even earlier that'd be great, the system and PM is already written for you.
(PS, I was still receiving reply PMs to that about 6 months later... LOL)
I think that helped get us finally rolling. It will be a good idea when we get about a week out from the challenge.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/18 22:47:35
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warthorn
Can we get this going again this year?
http://forums.evga.com...2&mpage=1&key=
I can spearhead the efforts during one week in mid-march. A lot busier this year though so if someone else wants to take the initiative to start even earlier that'd be great, the system and PM is already written for you.
(PS, I was still receiving reply PMs to that about 6 months later... LOL)
I don't see why not. Side note, I do remeber reading that PM last year....and thinking it was a scam. 
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/19 00:34:25
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If I understand this correctly, to join, we switch team to EVGApes instead of EVGA. Does this somehow divert points away from the EVGA promotion? The difference from last year is that we need to accomplish 100,000 points per month to meet the goal instead of 1,000,000 points per year.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/19 00:42:44
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You´ll be folding for EVGApes (or whatever anme we´ll have) instead of your folding name and EVGATech_Kyle
We will try to make accommodations for the Chimp Challenge.
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=186443
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/19 07:43:02
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heydabop
warthorn
Can we get this going again this year?
http://forums.evga.com...2&mpage=1&key=
I can spearhead the efforts during one week in mid-march. A lot busier this year though so if someone else wants to take the initiative to start even earlier that'd be great, the system and PM is already written for you.
(PS, I was still receiving reply PMs to that about 6 months later... LOL)
I don't see why not.
Side note, I do remeber reading that PM last year....and thinking it was a scam.
haha, ok, when that week in March rolls around, I'll whip up something more direct to avoid that.
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Re:Chimp Challenge 2010
2010/02/19 08:36:09
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I did not get to participate last year as I was new to folding and i was very confused with all this Chimp Challenge stuff.
However now..... I am psyched, ready, and will be contributing 16kPPD to the event.
FOLD ON!
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