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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/10 13:41:19 (permalink)
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I'll take a look, thanks. I can't get this pig to find any updates and I can't find that post that listed something they called "The Hammer" that would find updates much quicker. Still trying to decide on which benchmark I want to use. Firestrike makes me sit through that damn demo. I don't really like Heaven 4.0 but it looks like I'll be using that or Heaven 3.0 if I ever get this thing to update.
 
P.S. I'm not real keen on putting PrecisionX on my PC. It is too unstable since EVGA parted company with their qualified Developer. I actually haven't used Precision since 2011.


Looking for faster Win 7 updates ?
 
To finish updates you will need to update IE first

Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 into a Installation DVD or ISO File

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http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/145343-slipstream-windows-7-sp1-into-installation-dvd-iso-file.html
 


I'm already on SP1 and I am at the end of my rope for the day. Updated to IE11 which did absolutely nothing except change my email settings for some reason. I got double emails from everyone and the view pane changed too. I'll plug it in and let it run all night and see what greets me in the morning. At least it isn't the power hog that this thing is. This idles at 130 kw and that other one only used 17 kw with a GTX-680. It's bad enough I have to run my AC all night long because of the ridiculous heat and humidity. I might as well give my air conditioner something to stare at during the night.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/10 14:55:13 (permalink)
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I'm already on SP1 and I am at the end of my rope for the day. Updated to IE11 which did absolutely nothing except change my email settings for some reason. I got double emails from everyone and the view pane changed too. I'll plug it in and let it run all night and see what greets me in the morning. At least it isn't the power hog that this thing is. This idles at 130 kw and that other one only used 17 kw with a GTX-680. It's bad enough I have to run my AC all night long because of the ridiculous heat and humidity. I might as well give my air conditioner something to stare at during the night.

I just went through building a clean Win7 image at work...  What you're probably looking for is the "Windows 7 Convenience Update"...  Have to install this first - https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3020369 and then install this - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3125574
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/10 16:12:51 (permalink)
I tried to get those earlier and I got one but couldn't get the other. I am getting ready to plug the "other" back in and let it search its little heart out for updates all night long.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/10 18:13:49 (permalink)
funny seems to me all that cant update win 7 all started after 10  notice how they made 7 miserable to install  [between this and what they did to screw usb installs  in skylake ]  I assume all part of strong arming you over to 10 
 
I do find that if the down loads don't take off   is to just shut down and reboot   [not restart full all the way off ]    one thing I wonder if that slipstreaming  of the updates also include all the updates you may not want   like all the GWX and telemary  ??  [see with that you cant wed out or screen them  and installed that you cant individually uninstall a update it installed ] hint, hint ..     then you think 95% of the updates are for when your online / internet usage stuff   [to help prevent a attacker from executing ]  Microsoft did a few things to help make you think you better upgrade to 10   like a lot find  as you  '' tried to get those earlier and I got one but couldn't get the other. I am getting ready to plug the "other" back in and let it search its little heart out for updates all night long '' 
and don't forget theres maybe 250 updates  at a gillion  mb  worth of searching and downloading ??   I'm sure it takes more the 10 min to collect them up 
 , then Microsoft feels you not using 10 the greatest OS ever , so ???
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 03:22:01 (permalink)
It ran all night and found not a single update. Maybe tonight?


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 04:36:22 (permalink)
@Zuhl, just curious, what model number Classy did you get? 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 04:41:44 (permalink)
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@Zuhl, just curious, what model number Classy did you get? 


This one: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-3997-KR
 


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 04:51:22 (permalink)
Ok, I was reading through this thread and for some reason, I thought you were getting a 4998-KR. I have two of them and can attest they are good OC-ers. On air I can get 1506 somewhat stable (works in games, not on Heaven or FireStrike), 1490 is very stable.
 
I bought them just before the 1080 went on sale (emotional purchase due to stress - best reason to spend money, right?). However, thanks to EVGA's wonderful step-up program, I am now waiting on two 1080s whenever they have stock available, which might be a while. 
 
Sorry for the frustration you are experiencing. Hope you get some resolution soon.
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 05:00:02 (permalink)
I just saw Classified and jumped on it not realizing it was a reject that wouldn't run a real Classified clock speeds. They offered to refund my money if I paid for return shipping and I decided to just keep it. It's not for anything important and it's just a stand-in until Volta ti is released. I'll just give it to my nephew. He's dumb as a post as far as a PC is concerned and won't know the difference.
(Sorry, nephew, if you're listening)
 
Now that I am wise to their tricks I don't think I'll get snookered into buying a dumbed down video board from EVGA again if I ever even buy another video board from them at all. Vlada011 is a big ASUS fan and I am sticking with MSI from now on.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 05:05:00 (permalink)
If you offered to give me a 980ti, I wouldn't care what insult you sent my way. 
 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 05:11:24 (permalink)
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If you offered to give me a 980ti, I wouldn't care what insult you sent my way. 
 
 


Good point! I think there is hope for this board. It has a good ASIC and I can still RMA for another new one if I do it within 3 weeks. I need to cut the UPC code off of the box for the $50 MIR and that might complicate matters. IDK, it still works anyway. Now that I am having issues with my Z77 motherboard not booting and this Z97 PC Mate only handling a single video board I have to wonder if I should have bought a GTX-1060 and been done with it. I just hate those pocket sized 1060 boards that EVGA is producing. I really hope they decide to make a real looking video board for the 1060.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 05:26:50 (permalink)
I agree with you on that one. I don't like the small form factor of those cards. I know they have their uses but aesthetically, they look "cheap".
 
I am curious why you are sort of cross-shopping a 980ti and a 1060? 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 05:39:35 (permalink)
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I agree with you on that one. I don't like the small form factor of those cards. I know they have their uses but aesthetically, they look "cheap".
 
I am curious why you are sort of cross-shopping a 980ti and a 1060? 
 


My main focus was building my Z77A-G45 Gaming setup with a i7-2600k. I didn't want a 1060 because they don't support SLI. I normally buy a top end flagship quality video board and save up for a second board for SLI but nVidia had put a damper on my plans with this 1060 nonsense. However, if I can't sort the issues with the Z77 board I will be forced to use the Z97 PC Mate that only has 1 PCI-E slot at 16x for a video board. I can run two AMD boards in Crossfire but the second slot is only 4x and will not support SLI.
Yeah, this thread was originally posted about a 4998-KR Classified but the original poster seems to have resolved his issues and I saw no reason to waste a perfectly good thread so I jumped right in. I seem to have essentially hijacked the thread but it seemed easier than starting a new post and nobody is complaining ...  YET!


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 06:16:14 (permalink)
Ok, that makes sense. Yes, I think NVidia realized that 1060 SLI would outperform a single 1080 for $200 less, so they nixed it. 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 06:34:54 (permalink)
I just made a comment about being duped into buying a crippled Classified video board and someone responded. The conversation just continued back and forth since then. New case arrives Friday and I will try the Z77 again since the SSD RAID array is already updated and ready to go for it. This Z97 refuses to update so I am giving up on it for now. No sense in wasting electricity if it won't do anything.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 06:43:47 (permalink)
Sounds good, good luck with the new case.
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 06:45:43 (permalink)
funny thing  - I got 7 updates yesterday  [win7]   and selected the ones I wanted to download and install   like you it sat there ''downloading ''  for ever and never came off 0% download completed ?
so  I just let it run until I shut down for the day  and when I did it showed installing updateds  [???? ]   anyway   it  downloaded and installed  all but 2  that showed failed   but when I fired up the next day  it once again showed the 2 I did not get  and downloaded and installed them  with out issue ??  thing was like said the first time  that  progress bar thing all ways showed 0% all day   then the 2ed time to get the 2 that failed worked correctly  9%  28% 70% complete  restart now ? go figure
 
Microsoft just sabotaged  things to help you decide to get on 10   -  for how I see it there was no issue  until 10 came  out and we all know how hard microdsoft pushed to get rid of 7  over it   [tricks  lies  strong arming   hiding GWX in updates to slide them under your nose  and all that jazz ]   I see it as if you go 7 today you just get punished for not going with there great win-10   [ and i'
m sure all involved with 10 must have a heck of a load on there servers  and anything else  takes a back seat   really thrown in the trunk ]
 
anyway good luck     
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 06:57:25 (permalink)
No problems installing updates on this one yesterday. Most were for Office. My laptop had little problems at all after a fresh install of Windows 7 SP1. IDK what it wrong with this 'other' thing. Maybe I'll try it again tonight or not. It would be nice if I could just suck the updates off of this PC by networking them together. Same Z97 chipset. Maybe I can copy my System Image and install it on that thing and re-activate it using the right software key. The only difference is the internet drivers. This one is Killer and the other one is Realtek. No other difference.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 13:57:20 (permalink)
cant say ?  like said   ''We recommend that you include this rollup package in the image creation process to make it easier to quickly set up a computer'' 
 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3125574
 
maybe look at any stand alone  update the fixes updating  ??
 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161647
 
thing is no files to view and this on like one they slip GWX files in to ??
 
for me I just cant trust that   for what I said above   you cant screen or weed out any unwanted  updates . you take them all or nothing   and maybe some more catch 22's    with the release of 10 my trust in Microsoft has gone way, way down .   its to the point if not for just the ease of games I would not even use it anymore and just go full Linux  gaming is about all Microsoft got going for it . outside of that Linux covers the rest  as good if not better
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/11 14:27:04 (permalink)
I'm letting it run again. Maybe all night too. Linux is sounding better every day.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:03:29 (permalink)
It ran all night long and not a single update. IDK what to do now. I restarted the Service several times as recommended by others. I restarted my PC as recommended by others. I shut down and restarted to no avail. Update Tuesday has come and gone. MS servers should at least be clear enought to give me a few updates, no? The last time I tried LINUX I couldn't even install my video drivers. I might have to start a thread in General Software soon. There are too many updates for me to be poking around their download catalogue and installing them one by one. When I start this PC or any of my other Windows 7 PCs they start checking for Updates as soon as the Windows Update Service starts. This one just sits there like it doesn't know what to do and I have to start it manually. I haven't done much except install AVG, Steam, Origin, Uplay and Windows Live Mail. Maybe I should just reinstall it again or do a Repair Install?
 
Oh yea, before I forget, I got my Auto-Notify that a 4998-KR was available at 9:25 pm EDT last night but it is gone this morning. Then I looked at NewEgg and they have one cheaper and more reasonable shipping too.
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:20:44 (permalink)
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It ran all night long and not a single update. IDK what to do now. I restarted the Service several times as recommended by others. I restarted my PC as recommended by others. I shut down and restarted to no avail. Update Tuesday has come and gone. MS servers should at least be clear enought to give me a few updates, no? The last time I tried LINUX I couldn't even install my video drivers. I might have to start a thread in General Software soon. There are too many updates for me to be poking around their download catalogue and installing them one by one. When I start this PC or any of my other Windows 7 PCs they start checking for Updates as soon as the Windows Update Service starts. This one just sits there like it doesn't know what to do and I have to start it manually. I haven't done much except install AVG, Steam, Origin, Uplay and Windows Live Mail. Maybe I should just reinstall it again or do a Repair Install?
 
Oh yea, before I forget, I got my Auto-Notify that a 4998-KR was available at 9:25 pm EDT last night but it is gone this morning. Then I looked at NewEgg and they have one cheaper and more reasonable shipping too.


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Linux Mint check this one out
 
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2) EVGA X99 Classified, I7-5960X, 2- Titan X Pascal, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR4-3000, Intel NVMe PCIe 750 SSD, Win10 Pro,PSU EVGA 1200 P2 Folding 2.5M PPD    Affiliate code 05MLLDCG6B  
 
 
 

 
 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:29:05 (permalink)
I know there is a 'sticky' on LINUX somewhere and someone did post a tutorial on how to install the video drivers. Maybe If I shut this PC down and just use the 'other' it might get around to finding something. I switched to my LN2 BIOS but haven't installed Firestrike yet to see how it reacts with a 141% Power Limit. Will it boost higher or fall flat on its face? I could always flash the 4998 BIOS and boost the Voltage to see if it helps. Afterburner only gives me a .5v boost where my GTX-980 gives me .87v boost. I wonder if the GM200 will take 1.275v just like my GTX-980 or if it has a lower limit.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:32:10 (permalink)
June 2016 update MS Win 7 SP1 rollup  LINK

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2) EVGA X99 Classified, I7-5960X, 2- Titan X Pascal, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR4-3000, Intel NVMe PCIe 750 SSD, Win10 Pro,PSU EVGA 1200 P2 Folding 2.5M PPD    Affiliate code 05MLLDCG6B  
 
 
 

 
 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:40:14 (permalink)
I looked at that and couldn't get the update pack to download for me.


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 04:52:39 (permalink)
This should help - An unlikely combination of two Windows updates can reduce scan times from hours to minutes
InfoWorld | Apr 19, 2016

 
If you're experiencing Windows 7 update scans measured in hours -- if not days -- as I described last week, a newly discovered trick may reduce scan times to minutes. It's an unlikely combination of two updates that has worked wonders on my Win7 PCs. Try it and see how it works on yours.
 
 
LINK
 
 
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KB 3138612, you may recall, is the March "Windows Update Client for Windows 7" --  exactly the kind of patch you'd expect to solve the Win7 update slowdown.
KB 3145739, on the other hand, is this month's "security update for Windows Graphics Component" -- otherwise known as MS 16-039, the security patch that (once again) fixes the way Windows handles fonts inside the kernel.
I know that sounds like combining beer and cement to make a cheesecake, but there you have it. KB 3138612 installs a new program to handle Windows Updates; KB 3145739 has a new Windows kernel. Either patch installed by itself leads to hours and hours of waiting for Windows 7 update. Installing both patches together brings wait times (on the systems I've checked, anyway) back to sane levels.
 
 
Even with the latest Windows Update client, applying updates remains glacially slow 
InfoWorld | Apr 13, 2016

LINK
 
 
Last one
Windows 7 update scans taking forever? KB 3153199 may solve the problem  
InfoWorld | May 12, 2016
LINK
post edited by Cool GTX - 2016/08/12 05:00:53

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2) EVGA X99 Classified, I7-5960X, 2- Titan X Pascal, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR4-3000, Intel NVMe PCIe 750 SSD, Win10 Pro,PSU EVGA 1200 P2 Folding 2.5M PPD    Affiliate code 05MLLDCG6B  
 
 
 

 
 
 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 05:00:32 (permalink)
I'll check later. I think I put that KB3138612 in there. IDK about the other one. One time I clicked 'Open' from the drop-down menu and it installed the update. On another update I clicked Open and it just started a 'stand alone updater'. Go figure that one out. Maybe I have to remove the earlier Update to install the later version?


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 05:26:30 (permalink)
https://support.microsoft...-update-troubleshooter
 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971058
 
Edit: Try Microsoft fix it too. After all that "mess", I would prefer a clean reinstall of Win 7.
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 05:44:53 (permalink)
Update troubleshooter looks like it is fixing all kinds of things but nothing changes. I'm not going to jump through all of those hoops typing all of the 'stuff' into a Command Prompt. Uh uh, no way!


 
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Re: Cant Overclock 980 Ti Classified 4998-KR 2016/08/12 05:59:53 (permalink)
 
From my post # 86
 
Windows 7 update scans taking forever? KB 3153199 may solve the problem  
InfoWorld | May 12, 2016
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While KB 3153199 only updates the win32k.sys file (and does not supersede KB 3145739 but DOES supersede KB 3139852), I will manually download & install the KB3153199 security fix on my Win7 machines to resolve the very long WU scan problem.
 
It's easy to check whether you have KB 3153199 installed: Click Start > Control Panel > System and Security > View installed updates. Click on Name to sort all the little hummers by name. Look under the heading Microsoft Windows for "Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB3153199)." If it's there, you're already in the fast track and your update scans should take minutes instead of days.
If it isn't there, you can download and install the individual patch by using IE (or Edge) to go to the 32-bit download page or 64-bit download page.

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