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Dear EVGA community, I apologize if this is posted in the wrong post, as I didn't see the "post build requests" here section. Long story short is that it's been close to a decade since I last assembled a PC. I'm wanting to build a new system and I'm sticking with two brands. EVGA and Corsair. Not necessarily because they are the best for each specific component, but because the last time I built a computer and had issues both companies backed their product. To reward that, I'm buying their products again. So help me build a new computer. Specifically I'm looking for motherboard and graphics card help. Even more specifically, I want a great motherboard able to handle a SSD, a 10k RPM secondary, and two large 1TB media drive that I'll be pulling out of my old machine. Also I want to be able to run either a 580 or 590 GTX in SLI even if I can only afford one card as of this writing. I would like a 3 gb memory on the video card. I will not be water cooling. I will be running a seperate sound card. I will not be attempting to do any overclocking so factory overclocked is a plus. Having the option to do my own overclocking will be a bonus. Which EVGA mother board and video card should I be looking at? Which ones are on the very near horizon? Any upgrade paths I should be concnered about? Yes, I run dual monitors, each at 1680. In terms of processessor, I'm looking at either the 2600k or the 2700k. The power supply with likely be the Corsair AX1200 with some Corsair memory and case to go with it. Overall price range is in the 1700 to 2000 dollar rage for the system. Lastly, I've heard lots of issues from people running SLI, I know it worked pretty good for my Voodoo 2's and my Shotgun modems back in the day, but I heard a lot of people complain about microstuddering, is this a real problem with Nvidia SLI? Thanks in advance.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/21 22:45:23
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do you need everything from the ground up for that price range? if you have in mind an 2600k cpu then you could easily build a evga z68 ftw and gtx580 3g for that price.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/21 22:47:29
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Garthilk
Dear EVGA community,
I apologize if this is posted in the wrong post, as I didn't see the "post build requests" here section. Long story short is that it's been close to a decade since I last assembled a PC. I'm wanting to build a new system and I'm sticking with two brands. EVGA and Corsair. Not necessarily because they are the best for each specific component, but because the last time I built a computer and had issues both companies backed their product. To reward that, I'm buying their products again. So help me build a new computer.
Specifically I'm looking for motherboard and graphics card help. Even more specifically, I want a great motherboard able to handle a SSD, a 10k RPM secondary, and two large 1TB media drive that I'll be pulling out of my old machine. Also I want to be able to run either a 580 or 590 GTX in SLI even if I can only afford one card as of this writing. I would like a 3 gb memory on the video card. I will not be water cooling. I will be running a seperate sound card. I will not be attempting to do any overclocking so factory overclocked is a plus. Having the option to do my own overclocking will be a bonus.
Which EVGA mother board and video card should I be looking at? Which ones are on the very near horizon? Any upgrade paths I should be concnered about?
In terms of processessor, I'm looking at either the 2600k or the 2700k. The power supply with likely be the Corsair AX1200 with some Corsair memory and case to go with it. Overall price range is in the 1700 to 2000 dollar rage for the system.
Lastly, I've heard lots of issues from people running SLI, I know it worked pretty good for my Voodoo 2's and my Shotgun modems back in the day, but I heard a lot of people complain about microstuddering, is this a real problem with Nvidia SLI?
Thanks in advance.
Oh where to begin  I personally own two Corsair AX1200's and they are BEASTLY PSU, had one die on my about 3 weeks ago and got a brand new retailed boxed one in return, No questions ask. so +1 on the AX1200. Befor we jump into motherboards and RAM, what type of Intel chipset did you want to have? x58, z68, x79, p67 ??????  For GPU I would suggest this - EVGA GeForce GTX 580 Classified 3072MB, arguable the best single GPU card out right now, and at $599.99 its $150.00 cheaper than the 590 while still delivering a KO punch on any game out there. And SLi works flawlessly 99% of the time without any issues(I am currently running Three GTX 480's in SLi and have NEVER had an issue) Personally I have not been impreesed by the new x79, but it will give you the option for an 8 core CPU down the road(rumored spring of next year) and EVGA has been inovative on using 100% poscap capacitors, these boards also include a ton of USB 3.0 and built in HD audio with an optical sound output(mabey time to eliminate that sound card  )
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/21 23:30:22
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Grab the z68 MB for SSD benefits that you want and with the 2600k, you can easily over clock this, only a .1 difference with the 2700k. GPU wise, if you got the money to dish out n go ahead n grab the 580, if not I'd recommend 560's in SLi or 560 2Win, to out perform a single 580. SLi doesnt really have as many issues as you think, if there is, there will be fixes.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 07:50:44
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Befor we jump into motherboards and RAM, what type of Intel chipset did you want to have? x58, z68, x79, p67 ????
That is just it, I don't understand the differences. What's the big differences? I know I want SLI capability. I would like the ability to upgrade as much as possible. I am not too concerned with overclocking. I know I want to run at least 3 hard drives and two blu ray drives. I would like to run at least two GTX 580's even if I can only afford one today. I will throw in a sound card. That is about it. Seems like the Classified GTX 580 seems to be the card that I want, I'm unsure about the motherboard.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 10:52:34
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Befor we jump into motherboards and RAM, what type of Intel chipset did you want to have? x58, z68, x79, p67 ????
That is just it, I don't understand the differences. What's the big differences?
I know I want SLI capability. I would like the ability to upgrade as much as possible. I am not too concerned with overclocking. I know I want to run at least 3 hard drives and two blu ray drives. I would like to run at least two GTX 580's even if I can only afford one today. I will throw in a sound card. That is about it. Seems like the Classified GTX 580 seems to be the card that I want, I'm unsure about the motherboard.
Well with your (fairly flexable budget) I would recomend the x79 series, it is the best and newest out there. as far as EVGA x79's go the EVGA X79 FTW - $399.99 will be your board of choice as it is the best EATX Form Factor board EVGA makes. http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=151-SE-E777-KR&family=Motherboard  If the X79 FTW seems a bit much for you then I would suggest the EVGA X79 SLI, it's a standard TAX form factor capable of Tri-SLi - $299.99 http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=132-SE-E775-KR&family=Motherboard  The CPU for your x79 would be this little guy here Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 - $599 .99 Note that with Intels new CPU there IS NO heatsink included with themm so add about $50 for a good heatsink. The RAM(pending how much you really want), I would do 4GB sticks @ 4 sticks thats 16GB of RAM  Option (good)#1 1600Mhz CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $89 .99 Option (Better)#2 1866Mhz CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 - $159 .99 Option (Best)#3 2133Mhz CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 - $289 .99 Your PSU of choice the CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 - $299 .99 The EVGA GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Classified 3072MB - $599 .99 You can get pretty much all of this at right around $2,000.00+/-
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 11:52:21
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Befor we jump into motherboards and RAM, what type of Intel chipset did you want to have? x58, z68, x79, p67 ????
That is just it, I don't understand the differences. What's the big differences?
I know I want SLI capability. I would like the ability to upgrade as much as possible. I am not too concerned with overclocking. I know I want to run at least 3 hard drives and two blu ray drives. I would like to run at least two GTX 580's even if I can only afford one today. I will throw in a sound card. That is about it. Seems like the Classified GTX 580 seems to be the card that I want, I'm unsure about the motherboard.
X58 has already been replaced so I wouldn't bother looking there. In a nutshell, Z68 is a revised P67 (both use socket LGA 1155) with support for Intel Smart Technology, PCI-E 3.0 support, higher end audio chipset, digital display output, and other differences listed here and here. With a P67 or Z68 setup, you're limited to a total of 16 PCI-E lanes with current desktop processors, so two GTX 580s would run at PCI-E 2.0 x 8 each. This only has a very minimal impact on performance, only a small performance reduction in graphics benchmarks. X79 (LGA 2011) has 40 PCI-E lanes for native quad GPU support, plus quad channel memory which helps a lot in benchmarks and other programs that require such high bandwidth (not games). Since X79 is Intel's enthusiast platform, it has faster processors than the LGA 1155 platform. As a matter of fact, right now the only CPUs available on X79 are 6-core 12-thread processors. If you want to use more than two video cards, then this is the way to go. It will get a ~$300 4-core 8-thread processor in Q1 2012 called the i7 3820. When it comes to future upgrades, socket LGA 1155 will be the first to get 22nm processors (Ivy Bridge) and then they should appear on LGA 2011 afterwards (the latter is being called Ivy Bridge-E right now). I believe that the first Ivy Bridge CPUs will require a new LGA 1155 motherboard, since it will be coming out with new LGA 1155 motherboards (Z77, Z75, H77). The "Ivy Bridge-E" CPUs should work on X79, seeing as how the i7 980x and 990x still worked on X58 motherboards. The i7 2700k seems worthless... it is just a mildly overclocked i7 2600k from my understanding, and I've never heard of any benefits related to a newer revision. The i7 2600k might even be worthless for you - Hyperthreading does not help games (and it harms some games causing stutter, notably Red Orchestra 2 and Battlefield 3). It might help in some heavily multi-threaded applications slightly. For almost $100 less you can get an i5 2500k which is the same CPU, with the exception of its slightly lower speed (they overclock the same if you disable Hyperthreading on the i7 2600k) and lack of hyperthreading. CPU overclocking is recommended with powerful GPU setups. Some games will really show benefits and I hear Skyrim is one of such games. Mafia II is another one, and I believe Battlefield 3 is as well. GTA V will almost certainly benefit from a faster CPU... As for SLI microstuttering, it can be a problem depending on the game. I personally only experienced it in Crysis and Crysis Warhead (which is why I stick to single GPUs). I don't recommend dual GPU cards like the GTX 590... they are generally more problematic. Glad to see you listed a budget. For $2000 you can build a very powerful system. Here are some things to get you started. The reason I recommended the more plasticy Corsair 600T case is because of the airflow it provides. The Obsidian series don't quite come close to that, plus they also have wobbly sheet metal side panels from videos I've seen. I also recommended an ASUS Z68 over EVGA Z68 simply because I feel that EVGA dropped the ball with their LGA 1155 and LGA 2011 motherboard BIOS. EVGA's UEFI BIOS really looks like a last gen BIOS with no real upgrades, while ASUS is far ahead.
The Corsair AX1200 is also overkill for your system unless you plan on triple GTX 580s or triple Kepler cards. Heck that Seasonic 1000W is also overkill for two GTX 580s and lots of overclocking, but then again, you seem to want to be ready for future upgrades and who knows how Kepler power consumption will be. The AX1200 is overpriced now, costing $30 more than the superior Antec High Current Pro 1200. But that Seasonic will be more than enough... plus it has a 7 year warranty like Corsair and amazing performance. Check out these two reviews. The voltage regulation tests in the second one are the best I've ever seen! I didn't list an OS since you know to get Windows 7 64-bit already. You can compare the editions of each one here. I also didn't list peripherals, so if you need them I can make suggestions there as well. Good luck with the build! Don't forget to post it in the mods rigs section when you're finished.
post edited by boredgunner - 2011/11/22 13:44:51
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 12:31:04
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Well Garthilk it looks like you have TWO really well laid out builds one on the x79 and one on the z68. Happy picking! If you have anymore questions or concerns about anything, just keep posting in here 
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 12:39:00
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The two builds above look great to me. If I can throw my 2 cents into the mix. Maybe look at the Corsair 500R case. It's cheaper and has better cooling potential than the 600t. Just a thought.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 12:56:09
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The two builds above look great to me. If I can throw my 2 cents into the mix. Maybe look at the Corsair 500R case. It's cheaper and has better cooling potential than the 600t. Just a thought.
That one looks good too. Like ZachA said, if you can afford X79 then you might want to go for it. The CPUs and added memory bandwidth don't really help for gaming, but the mGPU support and possible future upgrades do.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 22:34:42
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Big thanks to boredgunner and ZachA, I really appreciate the feedback.
From the sounds of it I should stick with a X79 motherboard. Specifically the EVGA X79 SLI seems to have what I need. So here's my build thoughts so far.
Motherboard: EVGA X79 SLI - $300
Processor: I7-2600k - $320
Power: Corsair AX1200 - $280
Video: EVGA GTX 580 (03G-P3-1584-AR) - $590
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600 - $90
Case: Corsair 600T White - $170
That's around a total of $1750 which isn't too bad. At this point I own a 40 gig Intel X25-V SSD, but I think it's a bit outdated. I use this as my windows drive. For my programs I use an old Seagate 10k RPM drive. For my media drive for all my movies I use a Caviar Green 2tb drive. I'm not too up to date on what is going on in hard drives these days. It used to be 10k RPG was about the best. Anyone know anything about HD's?
I think my only question at this point is about hard drives and perhaps this question is best asked at the Corsair forums, but I wonder if it's worth it to try an upgrade to a larger SSD for my programs and for windows. Considering I'm mostly gaming and ripping video.
Lastly, I saw one of you mention a new intel processor in Q1 of 2012, the 3930K, seems like a huge price jump from the 2600k to the 3930k, I'm not sure how I'd be able to fit my budget, is it worth the wait so to speak?
Thanks again for the replies. As far as time frames I'm looking to buy before christmas and still have time to have it at home on Christmas day.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 23:01:30
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You can't use the i7 2600k on an X79. The 2600k is an LGA 1155 CPU while X79 uses LGA 2011 CPUs. There are only two CPUs available for X79 right now - the $600 i7 3930k and the $1000+ i7 3960x. The Q1 2012 CPU is the i7 3820, which will be the same price as the 2600k but it will work on X79 motherboards (it is an LGA 2011 CPU). I think for your budget you'll have to go the LGA 1155 route, but with a Z68 like this, you still have triple GPU support.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 23:45:40
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I was in your shoes only 12 months ago. My last build was in 98' so I had a lot of catching up to do. You may want to look at my Mods Rigs page or my sig. It sounds like my 2600k setup is just what your looking for. X79 is not worth it IMO unless you plan on triple SLI or just want the latest-and-greatest no matter the cost. X79 is overkill Z68 provides video encoding & outputs which you probably don't need. So I think P67 is the right choice. 8GB (2x4GB) is plenty for now and you can always add 8 more later. 1200W is overkill but too much power is usually not a problem. If you need to shave off a few bucks the HX1050 is enough. I overclock my CPU & GPU's and run them at full load all the time while folding and the HX1000 is handling it just fine. The newer HX1050 even has 5 more amps on the 12V rail. Save yourself the added premium for X79 and use that money for a nice 256GB SSD. With that you won't care about SSD caching which is another feature in Z68, so again, I think your better off with a P67 MoBo and a 2600k. The GPU's was a tough one. I almost went with the Classifieds but settled for the standard 580 3GB cards because I'm not an extreme overclocker, but mainly because they just look nicer when matched up with the rest of my components. Also, I almost picked up an XFI-Titanium sound card thinking I would need it, but I've been really impressed with the on-board audio chip and don't have to worry about any of the issues a sound card can present. Unless you absolutely must have the highest fidelity, you don't need a sound card. At least try the onboard audio before buying a card to see if it satisfies you.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/22 23:59:48
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So what are the real differences between say the EVGA P67 FTW and the EVGA Z68 FTW if I were wanting to stick with the 2600k?
Any real regarding upgradability why I'd want to go with one over another?
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 00:12:47
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You can't use the i7 2600k on an X79. The 2600k is an LGA 1155 CPU while X79 uses LGA 2011 CPUs. There are only two CPUs available for X79 right now - the $600 i7 3930k and the $1000+ i7 3960x. The Q1 2012 CPU is the i7 3820, which will be the same price as the 2600k but it will work on X79 motherboards (it is an LGA 2011 CPU). I think for your budget you'll have to go the LGA 1155 route, but with a Z68 like this, you still have triple GPU support.
I agree, factoring in everything your budget doesn't really allow you x79 as an option right now. Mind you that Nvidia is rumored to introduce price cuts toward December to sidestep the 7000 series launch, so if your wanting a 500 series card that would be the time to get it.. If you want a system now, then P67/Z68 is the most viable option. If you don't mind waiting a little bit (1Q 2012) then the quadcore x79 chip should be out and then x79 becomes an option IF the price point sticks and then you have all the options to play with in the future: Increased PCIe bandwidth, PCIe 3.0 ext.. If the choice is down to P67 or Z68, I can't see any real reason to choose the latter unless your interested in the SSD caching features of the Z68 boards. As mentioned your best bet as far as a gpu goes is the 3GB version of the 580, the 590 to the dismay of many only has 1.5gb per card ergo only 1.5gb is usable. With many games seemingly pushing the Vram barrier it would be wise to think ahead and go with more than the standard 1.5 at this point. The 2.5gb GTX 570 is also an option here, unless your dead set on a top of the line card. If you're intending on keeping the system for awhile, then I see no reason why not to choose the 2600k over the 2500k because of the fact that future games will undoubtedly use more cores/threads efficiently. A couple of today's examples of such games would be Lost Planet 2 and Shogun 2. Motherboard: P67 Asus Sabertooth - 200$ Processor: i7 2600k - 320$ Power Supply: Corsair AX1200 - 280$ Video Card: Evga 3GB GTX 580 - 590$ Memory: 16GB Vengeance 1600 - 90$ Case: Obsidian 650D - 190$ <-- Personal Preference Total: 1670$ (This leaves you with a little bit of cash left over to put towards another 580) The only gripe I have with Sandy is that if you run 2 cards the majority of the time they will run 8x/8x (this isn't a problem with the 580 bandwidth but if you plan to keep the system for a long time and upgrade to maxwell on it ext, then full bandwidth saturation might be an issue, if you don't count in the CPU bottleneck..as far as I am aware of at this time a 6990 is the only thing that comes close to maxing a 16x slot at this time) **Edit, I can't believe I forgot to mention this, but unless you plan to OC the 580s then a corsair AX850 should be more than fine for SLI. This saves you around another 100$ to put towards the second 580.
post edited by _Bathory - 2011/11/23 00:16:09
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 00:17:11
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The 2600K has integrated video.
With P67 and a discrete video card you can't use the encoding/decoding (Quicksync) features of the 2600K.
Z68 then introduced the ability to use a discrete video card but still take advantage of Intel's Quicksync technology. Unless you're a professional video editor, it means nothing.
Z68 also introduced SSD caching but it's still not as fast as having a dedicated SSD for the OS drive. It's a nice feature for people on a budget that might only be able to afford a 60GB SSD, but if you can afford at least a 120GB, you don't need caching. Just store all your games and media files on the hard drives.
That's really just about it. You don't loose anything going to Z68, but I certainly wouldn't gain anything from it either since I have no use for the added features. If the price between them is close, go with Z68 just because it's a later platform.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 16:22:51
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You can't use the i7 2600k on an X79. The 2600k is an LGA 1155 CPU while X79 uses LGA 2011 CPUs. There are only two CPUs available for X79 right now - the $600 i7 3930k and the $1000+ i7 3960x. The Q1 2012 CPU is the i7 3820, which will be the same price as the 2600k but it will work on X79 motherboards (it is an LGA 2011 CPU). I think for your budget you'll have to go the LGA 1155 route, but with a Z68 like this, you still have triple GPU support.
I agree, factoring in everything your budget doesn't really allow you x79 as an option right now. Mind you that Nvidia is rumored to introduce price cuts toward December to sidestep the 7000 series launch, so if your wanting a 500 series card that would be the time to get it..
If you want a system now, then P67/Z68 is the most viable option. If you don't mind waiting a little bit (1Q 2012) then the quadcore x79 chip should be out and then x79 becomes an option IF the price point sticks and then you have all the options to play with in the future: Increased PCIe bandwidth, PCIe 3.0 ext..
If the choice is down to P67 or Z68, I can't see any real reason to choose the latter unless your interested in the SSD caching features of the Z68 boards.
As mentioned your best bet as far as a gpu goes is the 3GB version of the 580, the 590 to the dismay of many only has 1.5gb per card ergo only 1.5gb is usable. With many games seemingly pushing the Vram barrier it would be wise to think ahead and go with more than the standard 1.5 at this point. The 2.5gb GTX 570 is also an option here, unless your dead set on a top of the line card.
If you're intending on keeping the system for awhile, then I see no reason why not to choose the 2600k over the 2500k because of the fact that future games will undoubtedly use more cores/threads efficiently.
A couple of today's examples of such games would be Lost Planet 2 and Shogun 2.
Motherboard: P67 Asus Sabertooth - 200$
Processor: i7 2600k - 320$
Power Supply: Corsair AX1200 - 280$
Video Card: Evga 3GB GTX 580 - 590$
Memory: 16GB Vengeance 1600 - 90$
Case: Obsidian 650D - 190$ <-- Personal Preference
Total: 1670$ (This leaves you with a little bit of cash left over to put towards another 580)
The only gripe I have with Sandy is that if you run 2 cards the majority of the time they will run 8x/8x (this isn't a problem with the 580 bandwidth but if you plan to keep the system for a long time and upgrade to maxwell on it ext, then full bandwidth saturation might be an issue, if you don't count in the CPU bottleneck..as far as I am aware of at this time a 6990 is the only thing that comes close to maxing a 16x slot at this time)
**Edit, I can't believe I forgot to mention this, but unless you plan to OC the 580s then a corsair AX850 should be more than fine for SLI. This saves you around another 100$ to put towards the second 580.
This is a good system layout however I would suggest a better motherboard for a little bit extra: EVGA P67 FTW http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=160-SB-E679-KR&family=Motherboard Theres a MIR right now so the price is only $229.99 right now!  Theres also a Z68 equivilent as well EVGA Z68 FTW - http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=160-SB-E689-KR&family=Motherboard This one also has a MIR so its only $254.99 right now!  and on a side note you could use the AX850, but I would suggest the HX1050(For the fact it will last longer not near max capacity all the time), but if you think you might want a third GPU later on then i would go with the AX1200
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 20:29:21
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Why is the EVGA better? It doesn't come close in BIOS layout or features, plus ASUS motherboards seem to have a great layout as well. EVGA also lacks a PS/2 port which is a letdown, and the aforementioned ASUS has more SATA III connectors (via external controller of course). EVGA just has an NF200 chip for triple GPU support.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 21:00:57
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why not a gtx 570 2560mb card instead of the gtx580? priced at $400 i think it would be a good suggestion. as if hes looking at one gtx590 now for maybe $50 more he can have the gtx 570's in sli. which would do rather well imho. and the specs are pretty close to the gtx580 3kmb card.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 22:09:23
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Why is the EVGA better? It doesn't come close in BIOS layout or features, plus ASUS motherboards seem to have a great layout as well. EVGA also lacks a PS/2 port which is a letdown, and the aforementioned ASUS has more SATA III connectors (via external controller of course). EVGA just has an NF200 chip for triple GPU support.
Theres what I highlighted in red, and waaaay up at the top the OP said he wanted to go with EVGA/Corsair for as much of his build as possible......
I'm wanting to build a new system and I'm sticking with two brands. EVGA and Corsair. Not necessarily because they are the best for each specific component, but because the last time I built a computer and had issues both companies backed their product. To reward that, I'm buying their products again. So help me build a new computer.
I'm just giving him what he ask for is all, no matter how indifferent I feel about it I am just giving him what HE ask for.
post edited by ZachA - 2011/11/23 22:16:30
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 22:42:30
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A few reasons I chose the ASUS board were 1) good on-board audio chip 2) good UEFI BIOS and 3) Intel network controller (NIC). Plus, I like blue and the LED on the board looks cool.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/23 23:49:52
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Violence.
why not a gtx 570 2560mb card instead of the gtx580? priced at $400 i think it would be a good suggestion. as if hes looking at one gtx590 now for maybe $50 more he can have the gtx 570's in sli. which would do rather well imho. and the specs are pretty close to the gtx580 3kmb card.
I mentioned that they could choose the 2.5GB model of the 570 aswell. The only reason that I wouldn't recommend a GTX590 at the moment is because of the 1.5GB barrier, alot of games now days seem to really push it, specially if he'll be gaming on these dual screens he has. GTX 570 2.5GB SLI = $790 GTX 580 3GB SLI = $1180 Unless your dead set on the best of the best I would go the route of the 570 in SLI ZachA
and on a side note you could use the AX850, but I would suggest the HX1050(For the fact it will last longer not near max capacity all the time), but if you think you might want a third GPU later on then i would go with the AX1200
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2gZ8er-3cs&feature=channel_video_title Watch from the 3 minute mark, With a 980x and a pair of 580s at full load, the system doesn't pull more than 650w and that was using an HX580. He could use the AX850 and at some point give them a generous overclock and still have lots of room. Yes, IF you at some point want a third GPU then you would need to choose the AX1200w or something like it. Also if you will be running a third card, you would need to go with another board than the Sabertooth as it only has room for SLI. In this case I would go with the P67 FTW from EVGA. But the above is ONLY if you want TRI SLI in the near future, as 2 580s/ 2 570s will pretty much max everything out for a good while from now. I am not a fanboy or loyalist, I am merely trying to be objective. Just my two cents.
post edited by _Bathory - 2011/11/24 00:11:08
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/24 06:18:19
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my cards show up on my comp as 1.5mb cards but run in sli it shows i have 4 of them. if i pull one off and put a designated physx card in they will run fine. i can play battlefield 3 now on ultra settings with no issues at 1900X1080. and most benchmark tests im still over 75fps even on hard pulls unless theres physx involved.
however if i did it again i would run the 2 mentioned above. the gtx570 2.5mb card or the gtx580 card in sli.
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Re:Building a New Computer
2011/11/26 12:35:03
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Thanks again for the replies folks, definately a lot of think about.
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