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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 06:29:16
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A good day yesterday and our consistent progress is still there even with the points deferment that happened yesterday. 
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 07:22:10
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Ha! that is awesome! Way to go TEAM EVGA!! Tex, I was wondering what you meant? Sometimes I need a picture.....lol  TheWolf
Nicely done team, 27,211,472 points for yesterday!
Lets do it again today! 
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 07:53:08
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Ha! that is awesome! Way to go TEAM EVGA!!
Tex, I was wondering what you meant? Sometimes I need a picture.....lol
My point was...we have recently been maintaining ~23M/day and then the FAH points weren't totally calculated for Tuesday (we were down to 21M because of it). But then yesterday we did 27M. So, even if we strip 3-4M off yesterday's number (that should have been included in Tuesday's number), we are still running 23-24M/day and maintaining our recent average/day. But, we are still losing ground daily and the latest EOC stat says the overtake could happen as early as Oct 10th. Our goal of holding [H] off through our anniversary date of October 12th (or longer) is sliding the wrong way. But I know that this Team is giving it their all and I am very proud of the tenacity/willingness to extend ourselves. 
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 09:48:57
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Ya I had quite a few bad days in a row, power outage & one unstable rig. But I think everything in back in order now. Tex I found a problem with the new release Nvidia video driver and my SR-2 setup with VBox. I was getting random BSOD & didn't know why at 1st since I had just changed the ram I was thinking there. Then one of the BSOD said something about nvxxx.sys so I roled back my driver to 290.53 that I had been using forever without problems. Turned out I was still getting the BSOD on a second "yet another clean install" of 290.53 I noticed it wasn't going back to the older version of PhysX. Removing PhysX threw add & remove & doing yet another clean install of 290.53 "getting back to the older PhysX" the BSOD problem is now gone & has been stable for 2 days now. So I'm thinking the problem with the newer release Nvidia drivers are more to do with the version of PhysX it installs, or at least for some of us. Edit: since things are stable once again "and we are in a fight" I haven't tried the new driver with old PhysX but I will once I see a opening & will report on how that works out. Never know doing so might help improve PPD with the new 6xx video cards. "New driver with old PhysX" Someone with a 6xx should give it a try & post there results. If there already having problems its probably not going to make anything any worse. lol
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 11:19:13
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I'll try it tonight on a couple of 650 OC "dogs" that I have...purring along at a whopping 6500 to 7000 ppd  Oclocking didn't seem to do much but add heat on a 24 hr test, but they are small, quite and stay below 60* on auto (not curve) The 670 is still humming around 18.5 to 20k ppd, but I haven't went back that far with drivers TheWolf
Ya I had quite a few bad days in a row, power outage & one unstable rig.
But I think everything in back in order now.
Tex I found a problem with the new release Nvidia video driver and my SR-2 setup with VBox.
I was getting random BSOD & didn't know why at 1st since I had just changed the ram I was thinking there.
Then one of the BSOD said something about nvxxx.sys so I roled back my driver to 290.53 that I
had been using forever without problems.
Turned out I was still getting the BSOD on a second "yet another clean install" of 290.53 I noticed it wasn't
going back to the older version of PhysX.
Removing PhysX threw add & remove & doing yet another clean install of 290.53 "getting back to the older PhysX"
the BSOD problem is now gone & has been stable for 2 days now.
So I'm thinking the problem with the newer release Nvidia drivers are more to do with the version of PhysX it installs,
or at least for some of us.
Edit: since things are stable once again "and we are in a fight" I haven't tried the new driver with old PhysX
but I will once I see a opening & will report on how that works out.
Never know doing so might help improve PPD with the new 6xx video cards.
"New driver with old PhysX"
Someone with a 6xx should give it a try & post there results.
If there already having problems its probably not going to make anything any worse. lol
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 11:30:35
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You can check the version of PhysX the driver has by looking at the driver info at Nvidia site. So you may not have to go back that far to get the same version of Physx 290.53 has. If I remember correct 290.53 is a beta, but I've had such good luck with it I keep a backup of it on hand just in case. lol I'd only try it on 1 rig. Edit: With the Nvidia install you should be able to check or uncheck the things you want to install or not. That should save some time by just uninstalling the newer PhysX threw the new driver package then uncheck everything but PhysX in the old driver package when ran. leftygof
I'll try it tonight on a couple of 650 OC "dogs" that I have...purring along at a whopping 6500 to 7000 ppd
Oclocking didn't seem to do much but add heat on a 24 hr test, but they are small, quite and stay below 60* on auto (not curve)
The 670 is still humming around 18.5 to 20k ppd, but I haven't went back that far with drivers
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Ya I had quite a few bad days in a row, power outage & one unstable rig.
But I think everything in back in order now.
Tex I found a problem with the new release Nvidia video driver and my SR-2 setup with VBox.
I was getting random BSOD & didn't know why at 1st since I had just changed the ram I was thinking there.
Then one of the BSOD said something about nvxxx.sys so I roled back my driver to 290.53 that I
had been using forever without problems.
Turned out I was still getting the BSOD on a second "yet another clean install" of 290.53 I noticed it wasn't
going back to the older version of PhysX.
Removing PhysX threw add & remove & doing yet another clean install of 290.53 "getting back to the older PhysX"
the BSOD problem is now gone & has been stable for 2 days now.
So I'm thinking the problem with the newer release Nvidia drivers are more to do with the version of PhysX it installs,
or at least for some of us.
Edit: since things are stable once again "and we are in a fight" I haven't tried the new driver with old PhysX
but I will once I see a opening & will report on how that works out.
Never know doing so might help improve PPD with the new 6xx video cards.
"New driver with old PhysX"
Someone with a 6xx should give it a try & post there results.
If there already having problems its probably not going to make anything any worse. lol
post edited by TheWolf - 2012/09/27 11:42:30
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 11:38:05
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Tex I found a problem with the new release Nvidia video driver and my SR-2 setup with VBox.
I was getting random BSOD & didn't know why at 1st since I had just changed the ram I was thinking there.
Then one of the BSOD said something about nvxxx.sys so I roled back my driver to 290.53 that I
had been using forever without problems.
Turned out I was still getting the BSOD on a second "yet another clean install" of 290.53 I noticed it wasn't
going back to the older version of PhysX.
Removing PhysX threw add & remove & doing yet another clean install of 290.53 "getting back to the older PhysX"
the BSOD problem is now gone & has been stable for 2 days now.
So I'm thinking the problem with the newer release Nvidia drivers are more to do with the version of PhysX it installs,
or at least for some of us.
Edit: since things are stable once again "and we are in a fight" I haven't tried the new driver with old PhysX
but I will once I see a opening & will report on how that works out.
Never know doing so might help improve PPD with the new 6xx video cards.
"New driver with old PhysX"
Someone with a 6xx should give it a try & post there results.
If there already having problems its probably not going to make anything any worse. lol
Interesting possibility! I have not had problems with "blue screens", but I have been plagued with those screen resets that have been oft reported by 690 owners (many who are non-Folders) with certain versions of NVidia drivers. In my case, I only have seen issues (screen resets) while I'm attempting to Fold both GPUs on the 690, or if I try to Fold one GPU and also full SMP on my cpus. I have some work running on my SR-2 today and won't be able to play with the Nvidia driver or PhysX today. But it is worth giving it a go to see if my situation with the SR-2 and 690 both Folding would be helped. My SR-2 is my "daily driver" so I can't dedicate it to Folding, but do have windows of opportunity where I can do some dedication. Thanks for the idea and suggestion!
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 11:48:56
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Interesting possibility! I have not had problems with "blue screens", but I have been plagued with those screen resets that have been oft reported by 690 owners (many who are non-Folders) with certain versions of NVidia drivers. In my case, I only have seen issues (screen resets) while I'm attempting to Fold both GPUs on the 690, or if I try to Fold one GPU and also full SMP on my cpus.
I have some work running on my SR-2 today and won't be able to play with the Nvidia driver or PhysX today. But it is worth giving it a go to see if my situation with the SR-2 and 690 both Folding would be helped. My SR-2 is my "daily driver" so I can't dedicate it to Folding, but do have windows of opportunity where I can do some dedication.
Thanks for the idea and suggestion!
In case you missed this in the above post. With the Nvidia install you should be able to check or uncheck the things you want to install or not. That should save some time by just uninstalling the newer PhysX threw the new driver package then uncheck everything but PhysX in the old driver package when ran. Tex are you getting the driver has quit responding issue? Say where the screen goes black for a few seconds up to mins? This was also part of the problem I was seeing with the newer released drivers on my SR2. Edit: to add to this even now I still can't run folding on the GPU with out fail WU. Well I say can't, but what is strange is IF I start the GPU client 1st then start vbox then the CPU client it will fold both without problems "still in testing" where as If I start vbox 1st & the CPU client then the GPU client the GPU will fail on 1st frame or just a few after its started. So looks like something with vbox & the video driver not agreeing with one another.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:01:47
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Wolf. Yes, I get a momentary black screen (lasts maybe 5 seconds) and then returns to the normal desktop with a Nvidia statement that the "display driver has stopped responding and has recovered". With all the driver versions (except for 304.79) including the latest WHQL driver that I'm running now, the only time this black screen problem happens is when I'm trying to Fold on both GPUs of the 690, or Folding full SMP and one GPU. Gaming doesn't stimulate it either. But with driver version 304.79, I was daily getting those black screens with no Folding or gaming. PS: When the black screen happens, and I'm folding on both GPUs, only one (but always one) GPU will stop Folding. The other GPU will continue Folding as if nothing happened.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:07:31
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Edit: to add to this even now I still can't run folding on the GPU with out fail WU. Well I say can't, but what is strange is IF I start the GPU client 1st then start vbox then the CPU client it will fold both without problems "still in testing" where as If I start vbox 1st & the CPU client then the GPU client the GPU will fail on 1st frame or just a few after its started. So looks like something with vbox & the video driver not agreeing with one another. I'm more so now inclined to think its a problem with PhysX and something "maybe a .dll" Folding is running since I don't think your running vbox any more correct?
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:15:10
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TheWolf
I'm most so now inclined to think its a problem with PhysX and something "maybe a .dll" Folding is running since I don't think your running vbox any more correct?
Correct, I'm not running Vbox and seeing these issues.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:18:27
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I do find it weird that I can start the GPU folding 1st thing then the CPU folding client and it folds both with no errors. But not the other way around. 
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:26:06
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Wonder if it is some kind of process priority thing? Maybe the GPU getting to start first is grabbing enough of what it needs to run before the CPU Folding steps-in and scarfs up the rest? That's not very technical I know, but the best way I could describe what I am guessing may be happening.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:37:47
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Oh yeah, I hear that loud and clear...never, but never screw-up an 8102. Don't reboot your machine or even exit Folding when you have finished an 8102, 'cause you might get lucky and be sent another one. I have gotten very superstitious around those 8102s...  Back on the PhysX thing and whether it (or a particular PhysX version) is having any effect on these problems we are discussing. Wonder if there is a way to just disable PhysX from running at all while Folding? I know it's uses for gaming, but don't see a reason that it needs to be running when we are just Folding on the GPU.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:40:22
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In Nvidia control panel you can set PhysX to CPU only, but not sure that would help or make any difference.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/27 12:42:25
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OK, might be worth a try some time just to see if it has any effect...
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 09:48:11
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Will be adding a part time i7 into the mix next week. Should be good for an additional 50k per week or so. Maybe more depending on logistics.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 10:27:57
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Jke !
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 10:44:45
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 11:01:56
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Adding another 2500K into the mix later today - used some left over parts laying around.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 13:05:17
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+1 Way to Fold!
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 13:17:33
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We are currently forecast to hold the #1 spot til 6a 10/12! Keep cranking out that ppd!
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 13:28:20
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I'm doing what I can, been a bad last 3 days for me.
Heat here "in the shop" has been off the scale, the 2x AC's just can't keep up & everything is overheating.
But I'm willing to frying what I have to hold them off the best I can.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/28 16:34:06
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Yeah - Mississippi is a lot different than Michigan in September - kudos to you for that effort!!! I just brought my work laptop home for the weekend. T9800 dual-core, but should pull in 4-5K ppd. Set up in the garage, lol. 40's at night, low 70's during the day and on a painted concrete floor, so it's a great cooling setup.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/29 06:49:34
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Had to do a little hardware arragnement yesterday. For some reason, my sound card went missing from windows. After trying it in another PCI slot and reload the drivers, it works once again. But that meant putting the GTX470 in a slot with less space around the intake fan. For now, it seems to be folding just fine, thou it is 3*C higher than what it was in the other slot. I may play around with the slots again today, might have a dead PCI slot on the X58 board.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/29 14:08:30
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Aw000ooo000ooo! We getting some rain here since late yesterday afternoon so things are cooling down some what!
Lets fold team!
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/30 12:48:29
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Just added my GTX670 FTW to my v7 client - working 8018 WU (for 20k) I wonder how much it will affect my SMP - I never freed a core for the 670 yet running SMP-12
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/30 13:19:25
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Xavier Zepherious
Just added my GTX670 FTW to my v7 client - working 8018 WU (for 20k)
I wonder how much it will affect my SMP - I never freed a core for the 670 yet
running SMP-12
Not to badly, the smp client will take about 5/10 seconds longer to finish a frame. You don't need to allow a core just for the GPU, just let it run normally.
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Re:Battle Stations [calling all hands]
2012/09/30 13:19:40
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Just keep kicking it folks... You're doing fantastic!
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