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Hi folks, Need help here. I'm having difficulty getting my new rig to run all 4 sticks of memory. Getting all sorts of BSOD. The board I'm using is an EVGA Micro 2. Memory is 4 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz. Some observations. 1. The system is rock stable when using 1 memory stick. 2. All sticks passed memtest. Tested 4 simultaneously. I even tried running the memory @ 2133Mhz and left the CPU on stock settings, but to no avail. Other key specs - i7-5830 - Palit GTX970 - Samsung 950 Pro - Corsair HX1000i - Custom water loop - Win 10 Pro Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/15 23:34:42
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I had a number of issues and seemed to have cleared everything up. Not sure if it would help you but check out what I did in the Solved slow boot time thread in this X99 forum. Good luck. Just keep on it!
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 00:05:49
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If your using the auto config, xmp, to sense your memory timings and voltage don't, its probably not picking up correctly. Do it manually with one stick, save and shut down, add one more stick, boot etc... one at a time and see if you can get all four in with a successful boot. If not, you may have to take a look at the cpu socket pins and make sure none are bent but before you do that back your cpu cooler off half a turn, with the system shut down, and see if the small release in pressure helps. Let us know what happens and someone can help you from there.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 07:28:47
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Turned out I need to jack up memory voltage to 1.25V and up the CPU Vcore for all 4 sticks to work reliably in Win. However, I'm facing a new intermittent prob. The board can sometimes fail to detect my Sammy 950Pro. Need to disconnect the powercord and reattach to solve the issue. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 08:29:08
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How did you figure that out?
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 15:50:58
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drpower How did you figure that out?
Trial and error.. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 22:02:09
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Philwong Turned out I need to jack up memory voltage to 1.25V and up the CPU Vcore for all 4 sticks to work reliably in Win. However, I'm facing a new intermittent prob. The board can sometimes fail to detect my Sammy 950Pro. Need to disconnect the powercord and reattach to solve the issue. Phil
Good job. That used to be a very common issue with all the slots filled years ago but the newer boards don't seem to run into that issue as much. Your most likely running into it cause their 8gb sticks and that's alot of ic's to power. As far as the SSD goes, is it showing up in the bios? You have it set on ahci and as the first thing in the boot order?
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 22:15:48
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Philwong Turned out I need to jack up memory voltage to 1.25V and up the CPU Vcore for all 4 sticks to work reliably in Win. However, I'm facing a new intermittent prob. The board can sometimes fail to detect my Sammy 950Pro. Need to disconnect the powercord and reattach to solve the issue. Phil
Good job. That used to be a very common issue with all the slots filled years ago but the newer boards don't seem to run into that issue as much. Your most likely running into it cause their 8gb sticks and that's alot of ic's to power. As far as the SSD goes, is it showing up in the bios? You have it set on ahci and as the first thing in the boot order?
The 950 Pro is a NVMe M2 SSD. Don't think it can't be set to AHCI. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 23:15:18
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gtxjackbauer It needs UEFI.
Really?? I'm still on legacy boot mode. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/16 23:47:42
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NVMe needs UEFI BIOS support, it doesn't need UEFI boot mode. That's the difference. :) Legacy boot mode limits booting drive to 2.2TB which is max for MBR vs GPT. But that's hardly an issue with 256 or 512 GB drive. A problem may arise if someday you want to clone that drive to 2+TB SSD and keep it as bootable medium. Hardly relevant today considering the prices, but keep in mind that it won't work properly because big SSD must be GPT kind of partition. As for your problems with DIMM slots/sticks. As Wmmills said it was considered a problem few years ago. In particular on X58 boards with more than 3 sticks. I experienced that first hand. Anyway on Micro2 it shouldn't be an issue. Only 4 slots, very close to CPU socket, no crossing of circuitry, no link to northbridge or any other shenanigans. It's definitively not "working as designed", but glad to hear that you managed to overcome this annoyance.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 00:40:51
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Philwong Turned out I need to jack up memory voltage to 1.25V and up the CPU Vcore for all 4 sticks to work reliably in Win.
However, I'm facing a new intermittent prob. The board can sometimes fail to detect my Sammy 950Pro. Need to disconnect the powercord and reattach to solve the issue.
Phil
Good job. That used to be a very common issue with all the slots filled years ago but the newer boards don't seem to run into that issue as much. Your most likely running into it cause their 8gb sticks and that's alot of ic's to power. As far as the SSD goes, is it showing up in the bios? You have it set on ahci and as the first thing in the boot order?
The 950 Pro is a NVMe M2 SSD. Don't think it can't be set to AHCI. Phil
Yup, my mistake man....forgot the 950's are m2's. Sorry about that. :)
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 04:42:48
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ypsylon NVMe needs UEFI BIOS support, it doesn't need UEFI boot mode. That's the difference. :) Legacy boot mode limits booting drive to 2.2TB which is max for MBR vs GPT. But that's hardly an issue with 256 or 512 GB drive. A problem may arise if someday you want to clone that drive to 2+TB SSD and keep it as bootable medium. Hardly relevant today considering the prices, but keep in mind that it won't work properly because big SSD must be GPT kind of partition.
Very insightful, thanks. If that's the case, what is causing the board not to detect the 950 pro? Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 04:43:54
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Yup, my mistake man....forgot the 950's are m2's. Sorry about that. :)
No worries! Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 05:59:42
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I was told, in order to use my M.2 PCIe drive I need to use UEFI in my BIOS which ended up working. I did try legacy and it wouldn't work.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 08:18:02
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gtxjackbauer I was told, in order to use my M.2 PCIe drive I need to use UEFI in my BIOS which ended up working. I did try legacy and it wouldn't work.
Strange, I can't even see my M2 drive in the boot list after changing boot mode to UEFI. Moreover, the board just refuses to detect my sound card plugged into PCI-E 3. I remember reading somewhere about PCI-E 3 and M2 can both function simultaneously with a 40-lane CPU. Each will get 4 lanes. Now the only way for the board to detect the sound card is to disable M2 and change PCI-E version to 1. Sigh. Its one prob after another. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 10:06:08
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gtxjackbauer I was told, in order to use my M.2 PCIe drive I need to use UEFI in my BIOS which ended up working. I did try legacy and it wouldn't work.
Strange, I can't even see my M2 drive in the boot list after changing boot mode to UEFI. Moreover, the board just refuses to detect my sound card plugged into PCI-E 3. I remember reading somewhere about PCI-E 3 and M2 can both function simultaneously with a 40-lane CPU. Each will get 4 lanes. Now the only way for the board to detect the sound card is to disable M2 and change PCI-E version to 1. Sigh. Its one prob after another. Phil
Philwong Hi folks, Need help here. I'm having difficulty getting my new rig to run all 4 sticks of memory. Getting all sorts of BSOD. The board I'm using is an EVGA Micro 2. Memory is 4 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz. Some observations. 1. The system is rock stable when using 1 memory stick. 2. All sticks passed memtest. Tested 4 simultaneously. I even tried running the memory @ 2133Mhz and left the CPU on stock settings, but to no avail. Other key specs - i7-5830 - Palit GTX970 - Samsung 950 Pro - Corsair HX1000i - Custom water loop - Win 10 Pro Phil
i7-5830? Do you mean 5930? 5820k = 28-lane, 5930 = 40-lane.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 15:35:00
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gtxjackbauer I was told, in order to use my M.2 PCIe drive I need to use UEFI in my BIOS which ended up working. I did try legacy and it wouldn't work.
Strange, I can't even see my M2 drive in the boot list after changing boot mode to UEFI. Moreover, the board just refuses to detect my sound card plugged into PCI-E 3. I remember reading somewhere about PCI-E 3 and M2 can both function simultaneously with a 40-lane CPU. Each will get 4 lanes. Now the only way for the board to detect the sound card is to disable M2 and change PCI-E version to 1. Sigh. Its one prob after another. Phil
Philwong Hi folks, Need help here. I'm having difficulty getting my new rig to run all 4 sticks of memory. Getting all sorts of BSOD. The board I'm using is an EVGA Micro 2. Memory is 4 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz. Some observations. 1. The system is rock stable when using 1 memory stick. 2. All sticks passed memtest. Tested 4 simultaneously. I even tried running the memory @ 2133Mhz and left the CPU on stock settings, but to no avail. Other key specs - i7-5830 - Palit GTX970 - Samsung 950 Pro - Corsair HX1000i - Custom water loop - Win 10 Pro Phil
i7-5830? Do you mean 5930? 5820k = 28-lane, 5930 = 40-lane.
Yeah.. 5930 Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 21:03:18
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Check the Micro2's manual as there might be a PCIe slot disabled when using the M.2 interface. I know on the X99 Classifieds, the PCIe slot 5 is disabled automatically when the M.2 is being used.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/17 21:37:12
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gtxjackbauer Check the Micro2's manual as there might be a PCIe slot disabled when using the M.2 interface. I know on the X99 Classifieds, the PCIe slot 5 is disabled automatically when the M.2 is being used.
I did, except that it was stated incorrectly in the manual. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/18 00:12:28
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Really?? I'm still on legacy boot mode.
Well that line alone got me thinking that your SSD is finally working properly. Talk about mistake! Frankly I'm not fond of M.2 as a standard. I try to stay away from it whenever possible (which is pretty much 100% of times). You're not first guy who ran into same problem. I don't know if it is the problem with X99 silicone or something, but as a new standard M.2 is very quirky thing to say the least. You can read multitude of horror stories on this forum alone with old AHCI drives let alone NVMe. My guess is that there is something funny inside 950Pros which is not quite entirely trouble free... just like 951 NVMe was really pain in the backside to run on ANY X99 which in itself is just obviously stupid. You get out of the way to obtain that thing and then it doesn't work and you've got no support at all because it's OEM part. :wacko: As for my clarification about Legacy/UEFI. In your case it may be the problem because of Abomination10. You can do whatever you like up to W7. W8, 8.1 and 10 have that nasty Secure Boot or whatever it's called feature. IIRC in particular 10 won't install without UEFI. (I'm running X99 Classy/W7/UEFI, but if I set it in BIOS to Legacy 750 is still visible just not bootable for obvious reason - need to reinstall) As far as I know Micro2 isn't equipped with any switch to disable ports (and EVGA manuals are more cryptic than Vorlons in Babylon5!). My option would be to obtain simple M.2-PCI-Ex converter card to check if lane negotiation work properly this way. The other is to get Intel 750 which is quite pricey solution. LOL But in overwhelming number of cases 750 works right of the bat while 950 is whole litany of problems - pick any forum you like and read. All I had to do is to upgrade BIOS and it was working marvelously ever since. Even using one on my X58 (not as boot drive of course). Coming from server market to PCs 750 (vel earlier 3500/600/700) it's just proven product, while 950 is novelty with minimal track record.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
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The 950 Pro works better if you install Windows in UEFI mode. I installed while in Legacy, then tried switching to UEFI and it didn't respond. Here is what I did: Disconnect everything but your destination boot drive Put Win OS USB in USB3.0 port Enter Bios and Restore Defaults ----Boot Quiet Boot ON Fast Boot Off Boot Mode Select UEFI Boot Option #1 USB Key I think I left Network as #2? -CSM Config Enabled UEFI UEFI UEFI ----Advanced -PCIe Config I put everything at Gen3 but not sure is it makes a diiference than having them set on Auto -Onboard Device Config Everything Enabled Save & Exit tab Save Profile as 'thank you drpower' Save Changes and Reset Install as normal Restart after installation, enter bios pressing F2 and/or Delete Change Fast Boot to On and arrange the Boot order - Boot drive as #1 Network UEFI as #2 Save and exit tab Save Profile as 'EVGA is #1' Save Changes and Reset
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/18 17:34:01
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The thing is how much I supposed to install Windows if the board can't detect the 950 pro in UEFI mode?
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/18 17:39:16
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In Bios in advanced, Onboard Device configuration do you have M.2 enabled? And you updated Bios to 1.02?
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/22 19:27:45
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Philwong Strange, I can't even see my M2 drive in the boot list after changing boot mode to UEFI. Moreover, the board just refuses to detect my sound card plugged into PCI-E 3. I remember reading somewhere about PCI-E 3 and M2 can both function simultaneously with a 40-lane CPU. Each will get 4 lanes. Now the only way for the board to detect the sound card is to disable M2 and change PCI-E version to 1. Sigh. Its one prob after another. Phil Trying to type fast before I BSOD again. I have the same setup you do and have been BSODing a lot. Can't remember if I read it in the BIOS or the manual, but when you enable the M.2, PCIe-3 is disabled. My 950 Pro seems to be running fine. All memory slots are filled with 32GB of G.Skill Trident Z sticks. So annoying.
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
2015/12/22 20:22:42
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Philwong Strange, I can't even see my M2 drive in the boot list after changing boot mode to UEFI. Moreover, the board just refuses to detect my sound card plugged into PCI-E 3. I remember reading somewhere about PCI-E 3 and M2 can both function simultaneously with a 40-lane CPU. Each will get 4 lanes. Now the only way for the board to detect the sound card is to disable M2 and change PCI-E version to 1. Sigh. Its one prob after another. Phil Trying to type fast before I BSOD again. I have the same setup you do and have been BSODing a lot. Can't remember if I read it in the BIOS or the manual, but when you enable the M.2, PCIe-3 is disabled. My 950 Pro seems to be running fine. All memory slots are filled with 32GB of G.Skill Trident Z sticks. So annoying.
Try running the ram @ higher voltage. Mine needs 1.35V to be rock stable @ 2666mhz, although corsair claimed it needs juz 1.2V. As for the M2 slot, its fubar coz EVGA claimed it can share lanes with PCI-E slot 3 with a 5930k. Phil
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
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Philwong Hi folks, Need help here. I'm having difficulty getting my new rig to run all 4 sticks of memory. Getting all sorts of BSOD. The board I'm using is an EVGA Micro 2. Memory is 4 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz. Some observations. 1. The system is rock stable when using 1 memory stick. 2. All sticks passed memtest. Tested 4 simultaneously. I even tried running the memory @ 2133Mhz and left the CPU on stock settings, but to no avail. Other key specs - i7-5830 - Palit GTX970 - Samsung 950 Pro - Corsair HX1000i - Custom water loop - Win 10 Pro Phil
I can't boot to BIOS with all 4 sticks of memory. X99 Micro 2 4 x 8 GB Corsair LPX 3000Mhz 1.35v I've tried a manual BIOS setting with 1.35v and 3200Mhz which doesn't work. Any suggestions that can help me enable my RAM upgrade that just arrived?
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Re: BSOD when using all memory slots
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Philwong Hi folks, Need help here. I'm having difficulty getting my new rig to run all 4 sticks of memory. Getting all sorts of BSOD. The board I'm using is an EVGA Micro 2. Memory is 4 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz. Some observations. 1. The system is rock stable when using 1 memory stick. 2. All sticks passed memtest. Tested 4 simultaneously. I even tried running the memory @ 2133Mhz and left the CPU on stock settings, but to no avail. Other key specs - i7-5830 - Palit GTX970 - Samsung 950 Pro - Corsair HX1000i - Custom water loop - Win 10 Pro Phil
I can't boot to BIOS with all 4 sticks of memory. X99 Micro 2 4 x 8 GB Corsair LPX 3000Mhz 1.35v I've tried a manual BIOS setting with 1.35v and 3200Mhz which doesn't work. Any suggestions that can help me enable my RAM upgrade that just arrived?
Try running ya RAM @ lower speed, but I would suggest you RMA it. Micro 2 is very unforgiving when it comes to RAM compatibility. Phil
Intel i7-5930K EVGA Micro 2 Corsair LPX 32GB Palit GTX970 SLI Dell U2414H x 3 Samsung 950 Pro WD Green 6TB Corsair HX1000i
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